Thread: Most incorrectly and overused terms in boxing (by fans)

^that's another good one. People thinking that boxing will be better off when it's superstars who bring in MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars to boxing along with legit mainstream exposure all retire... I'd love to hear a breakdown of that one....

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by erics44

The division will be worse off when wlad retires

or Floyd retires when in fact the world of boxing will be in a better place.

The whole world will be a better place when floyd fucks off

"Robbery" and "bum" are the worst by miles.

I feel that this thread has been ruined by cherry-picking the topic, and just running and stating things which are pure robberies.

@brocktonblockbust is a bum.

@brocktonblockbust has been cherry picking his opponents on SB for years, always been overrated as a poster

I exposed all of you supposedly GOATs.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Let's start with "ruined".

With all due respect to my friend Brock, but....... Maidana didn't ruin anybody.
He gave Floyd a hell of a fight, probably more than Floyd expected. But ruined??
No.

To me, ruined is where the other fighter is never the same after that.
Usually a grueling, punishing fight, where the fighter suffers irreversible wear and tear.

Another is "cherry-picking".

It's overused for sure. Cherry picking occurs... but not every soft touch a fighter intermixes in between tough fights should be considered cherry-picking. Once a cherry-picker, always a cherry-picker. Meaning that fighters that become known for that tend to do so more often than everybody else. But not everybody is a cherry-picker.

How about "exposed"?

That's a really overused term. What is exposed, anyway? To me is where the fighter's record was built with smoke and mirrors (parade of tomato cans, for example). A bogus record just waiting to be exposed by the first good opponent a fighter faces. That is exposed. But it's overused. Every time a fighter loses, he's been exposed. B.S.



I'm as guilty of using these terms as anybody else, but usually try to reserve them for cases that truly merit their use.

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'Ruined'

Would lead everyone to assume that a fighter was never the same again, usually after absorbing
a frightful beating, and incapable of performing on a good level again.

See; Dwight Muhammad Qawi over Matthew Saad Muhammad
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'Cherry-Picking'

Yes, selecting an opponent who has absolutely 'no chance' of defeating you. Typically a
Champion selecting a 'safe opponent' to defend his Title against.

See; Ray Leonard ........Opponent List > Davey 'Boy Green, Larry Bonds, Bruce Finch
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'Exposed'

A fighter who had previously dominated, suddenly gets 'exposed' when he takes on a
somewhat unknown opponent who has his 'so-called' number.

See........... Carlos Monzon over Nino Benvenuti
See........... Pedro Flores over Yoko Gushiken
See........... Vernon Forest over Shane Mosely

I think the exposed thing gets blown out of proportion because, to me, it's supposed to mean that a guy was SUPPOSEDLY A-level, fought another A-level guy and was beaten to the point where he was "exposed" as not truly elite.

But the fact is, A-level fighters lose to A-level fighters all the time, it doesn't in itself mean that the guy who lost was not A-level and was "exposed". I think a guy who unfairly gets that criticism is Prince Naseem, who was a world champ at featherweight for 7 or 8 years before losing to MAB. I never understood why losing to one of the greatest fighters in boxing history meant you were "exposed".

Shane Mosley is an all time great, I don't see why he was "exposed" because Forrest and Winky Wright had his number.

Piss on all y'all, I say say it the way I see it or feel it, and I don't plan to change any time soon!

Just what a boxing forum needs, the word police. Go fuck yourselves!

Kid Thunder is a professional boxer.

Good topic, with alot of great insight offered. I’ll use these examples for correct vs incorrect

Ruined Meldrick Taylor was ruined by JCC
Incorrect usage of Ruined: PBF -Maidana (Brock was just being Brock with his thread-)

Cherry picking (correct) After 16-0 Anthony Peterson defeated an unknown Jermaine White who was 13-0; White got beat from pillar to post round after round until White said to his corner “say man throw the towel in, I’m through.” So JCC jr 26-0 chose to fight him. Nothing at all for Jr to have gained from this extremely light arm puncher.

Cherry picking incorrect (PBF- cherry picked Guerrero – who hadnt lost a fight since 2005 (18 fights ago).
Cherry picked Canelo 42-0-1? Really? Cherry picked Maidana claiming because he wasn’t a boxer- then after the fight- Floyd got troubled by his cherry picked opponent because of that exact style. Cherry picked Cotto because he was supposedly (ruined) by Pac & Rito, yet he was coming off 3 wins. Cherry picked Ortiz because he isnt great-Not that he was fighting the WBC champ. Cherry Picked Shane-who was coming off 4 KO wins out of his last 5 victories- his only loss since Forrest in 2005 was Cotto in 2007-

Bum-most who get this term deserve it imo.

game- affixed to guys who aren’t that skilled, but find ways to stay in the fight: Sam Soliman vs Winky Wright (sam was game) Jermain White vs Anthony Peterson was game. He got hit with everything-yet didn’t get stopped: before he quit-White was “game”

Incorrect: Robbery- Hopkins vs Pascal I I didn’t call it a robbery- IMO-I did have Hop winning, but it could have went either way.

Correct-Robbery: Forman vs Briggs. Only thing missing in this robbery was the ski mask.

Running Incorrect: PBF did not run against Castillo 2, he positioned himself and used ring generalship.
Correct- Ray Leonard at times ran as fast as he could from Haglar.

Exposed- can also mean the same thing as (set the blueprint) him another overused term? So & so set the blueprint.

Incorrect: Castillo set the blue print for beating PBF. Maidana set the blueprint- yet PBF is still undefeated.

correct- Hopkins stated DLH showed the blueprint on how to beat Tito. In this case Tito had a chink in his armour that was (exposed).

Exposed outright? A fighter who has been protected with padded fights.
Lennox Lewis exposed Michael Grant & Jorge Gonzalez as big dudes with a little ass game.

Lennox Lewis exposed David Tua’s arsenal aint shit without his right hand.

Cotto exposed Randall Bailey is extremely average without his big right hand.

Michael Moorer’s chin is exposed by any hard hitting fighter

Monstor.

for my weight

Originally Posted by SlimTrae

Good topic, with alot of great insight offered. I’ll use these examples for correct vs incorrect

Ruined Meldrick Taylor was ruined by JCC
Incorrect usage of Ruined: PBF -Maidana (Brock was just being Brock with his thread-)

Incorrect usage of "ruined": JCC Jr. ruined Sergio Martinez
Well...... granted, only one poster here made that ridiculous claim.

Correct version: Martinez ruined himself by never giving himself enough time to recuperate fully from his knee injury suffered during his complete, embarrassing, and one-sided shutout of the clueless JCC Jr.



BTW, this fight also serves to point out the correct usage of "exposed", as in..............

Martinez exposed JCC Jr. as a subpar fighter with only a good chin and a penchant for gaining 30 pounds overnight from the weigh-in.