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    Hi Everyone,
    Nice discourse...

    The jab is the one punch that has some distinct components to its body mechanics that distinguish it from the other punches in boxing's offensive arsenal. With that, one of the things I emphasize in my instruction with it is that it's a "spearing"/piston-like straight punch analogous to the fist being a bullet going through a gun barrel (with and without a preceding step - going forward or backward) that "snaps" like a whip.

    I generally think it's important to initially teach each punch in boxing without a preceding "trigger" step to establish a baseline foundation with balance and the fundamental body mechanics. In the case of a jab, from a solid on-guard balanced stance, I first teach to push off the ball-of-the-rear foot while simultaneously shooting out the lead hand in a straight-line, piston-like, "spearing" motion, leaning forward with a bend in the lead knee and the head directly over the lead foot. I have students do this slowly and deliberately then gradually and gradiently increase the speed from there as relative proficiency improves. Once solid body mechanics have been established from a stationary position, I'll introduce a "trigger" step into the jabbing mix. From there, I'll segue into teaching backward jabbing, multiple jabs (primarily emphasizing doubles), circular jabbing, and in-and-out jabbing with lateral movement. Anyway...

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    @Scrap

    Fast hands thingy is a result of sinchronised feet / hip and hand movements, I cannot really explain short way, but I got it comparing Pacquiao vs Provodnikov.
    Provodnikov is often not engaging feet / hips into his flurries, and as a result they are somewhat slow sloppy almos pure arm punching, while pacman (and young Tyson)
    has very good feet/hip and hands coordination. This video you posted - I personally do not think it can really help (the method)
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    Speed comes from the position of the head, alters everything if not where it should be. Problem is people try and move that what should not be moved, becomes a habit,move it either side up or down, the whole biomechanics change. Head does not move the body, the body moves the head
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Speed comes from the position of the head, alters everything if not where it should be. Problem is people try and move that what should not be moved, becomes a habit,move it either side up or down, the whole biomechanics change. Head does not move the body, the body moves the head
    Most knock out artists move the head downward and still get the ko. Can you demonstrate that moving the head downward should stop a Deontay wilder from getting a knock out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by showmi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Speed comes from the position of the head, alters everything if not where it should be. Problem is people try and move that what should not be moved, becomes a habit,move it either side up or down, the whole biomechanics change. Head does not move the body, the body moves the head
    Most knock out artists move the head downward and still get the ko. Can you demonstrate that moving the head downward should stop a Deontay wilder from getting a knock out?
    You cant move the head down, impossible. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by showmi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Speed comes from the position of the head, alters everything if not where it should be. Problem is people try and move that what should not be moved, becomes a habit,move it either side up or down, the whole biomechanics change. Head does not move the body, the body moves the head
    Most knock out artists move the head downward and still get the ko. Can you demonstrate that moving the head downward should stop a Deontay wilder from getting a knock out?
    You cant move the head down, impossible. .
    Can you bend it forward and still throw a knock out punch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by showmi View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Speed comes from the position of the head, alters everything if not where it should be. Problem is people try and move that what should not be moved, becomes a habit,move it either side up or down, the whole biomechanics change. Head does not move the body, the body moves the head
    Most knock out artists move the head downward and still get the ko. Can you demonstrate that moving the head downward should stop a Deontay wilder from getting a knock out?
    You cant move the head down, impossible. .
    Can you bend it forward and still throw a knock out punch?
    yes but it wont be as hard, the shot. Plus youre not in a good position to defend yourself.
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    Speed comes from the position of the head, alters everything if not where it should be. Problem is people try and move that what should not be moved, becomes a habit,move it either side up or down, the whole biomechanics change. Head does not move the body, the body moves the head
    Most knock out artists move the head downward and still get the ko. Can you demonstrate that moving the head downward should stop a Deontay wilder from getting a knock out?
    You cant move the head down, impossible. .
    Can you bend it forward and still throw a knock out punch?
    yes but it wont be as hard, the shot. Plus youre not in a good position to defend yourself.
    But I'm the biggest in the ring!

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    Meaning what .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Meaning what .
    Means I'm the biggest and strongest mofo in the ring so why can't I go forward?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f_AsOroeb8w
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TnfUExzL79g
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