Thread: Pacquiao will lose to Mayweather: ANALYSIS

Many boxing aficionados predicted that Filipino boxing icon Manny Pacquiao’s haymakers would dominate Welterweight pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, Jr. on May 2 (U.S dateline) mega tussle of the century.
Since a boxer is as good as his last six fights, let’s dissect if Pacquiao whirling dervish southpaw stance has still the superiority or pop to deck out Mayweather.

When Pacquiao fought the “Walking Punching Bag” Brandon Rios and the “Run Away Bride”, er, Boxer Cris Algieri compobox bared Pacquiao unleashes a total punch rates of 790 for Rios and 669 for Algieri in the entire 12 Rounds.
In these two lopsided match ups, Pacquiao looks superb as based on his total punches just like during those exploding years where he TKO’d (technical knocked out) and KO’d (knocked out) the bigger but dehydrated or struggling in weight Oscar dela Hoya, Antonio Margarito, and Miguel Cotto.
When Manny however fought Juan Manuel Marquez in 2011 and 2012, he unleashes only a total punch of 578
and 256 (before he was knocked out cold at the 6th Round) or an average punches of 48 and 42 per round on their 2011 and 2013 tussles, respectively.
Why the bone lazy punches from the Filipino to the Mexican compared to his bunches of punches on Rios and Algieri?
My Answer: Because aside from their being a ploughing punching bag and Runaway Bride, er, Pug, Marquez superb counter punching skills deterred Pacquiao to whimsically shoot his punches.
He became tentative if not cautious because he became vulnerable to the 1-2 or 1-2-3 of the Mexican every time he dropped a jab or a straight.
The Mexican fought intelligently by exploiting the weaknesses of the predictable style of the Filipino
(Pacquiao’s right jabs then plunge his chin or set his legs for inertia to trigger his left power punch) by just turning clockwise to avoid the Filipino’s left power punch.
The last time I saw Pacquiao set his predictable left power punch by feinting first two supposed right jabs were in the 6th round of their 2013 match. Marquez made him pay for that blunder as Pacquiao allowed an opening of his chin as a knocked out target of the Mexican looping right punch.
Thanks to his chopping of woods or thanks to controversial conditioning coach Angel "Momo"Heredia?
Pssst, I heard Mayweather, for the first time, chops woods too!


My thesis why Pacquiao will lose to Mayweather by citing Rios, Algieri, and Marquez

First, Rios, Algieri, and Marquez 3 and 4 matches were part of Pacquaio’s last six fights. They said a boxer is as good as his latest matches.

Second, Rios and Algieri are not like Mayweather in terms of boxing I.Q and skills. They are relegated between Vaishya and Shudra while Floyd is a Brahmin if compared to the Indian Caste System we learned in school. If you are a tricycle driver or a plumber of Malabanan Poso Negro who only finished Grade 5 but still read this article, Rios, Algieri, and Marquez can be likened to students of the elite University of the Philippines. While Marquez was a true UPiyan studious student, Rios or Algieri could either be working in the UPi-an ng tansan near U.P or nagbebenta (selling) ng ice water sa loob ng U.P.
Third, although schooled and even knocked down by Mayweather in their September 2009 ho-hum fight, Marquez and Mayweather have similar style in the ring: That being a C-O-U-N-T-E-R P-U-N-C-H-E-R!
The difference however between Mayweather and Marquez is Floyd is three times better than the Mexican in the scarce counter punching industry (Could not yet get my drift here? Watch the Mayweather-Marquez lopsided fight at YouTube to appreciate what I'm arguing here on the counter-punch and escape and evasion techniques of the loquacious, ostentatious, and boastful American).
Aside from being a maestro on these ring guile's, his long jabs, his inimitable feint that allows his punches to vigorously hit behind the ears of the opponents (watch his Robert Guerrero and Cotto’s fights) despite their gloves covering their heads, masterful weaving and bobbling, and the ballyhooed shoulder roll armed with a cocked right and left punch uppercuts. These arsenals of the still fresher American (47 mostly stick- and- run matches) would be too much for Pacquiao ( 57 ring wars and have you heard about wear-and-tear?) who could no longer KO an opponent since he TKO’d Cotto six years ago.
Without that KO, Pacquiao lost his comparative advantage in a marquee fight just like what is going in May 2.
Mayweather's excellent skills made him not only as boxing virtuoso but as the richest sports man of the world since modern boxing was invented in 1867.
(You can read my selected columns at http://**************************** and articles at Pangasinan News Aro. You can send comments too at totomortz@yahoo.com)

Are you the dog from The Wizard Of Oz ?

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Are you the dog from The Wizard Of Oz ?

Wow, he has one of the Nazis top generals as his avatar, that's ballsy

Real boxing does not work this way, honey. I've seen tons of this type of simplistic and straightforward analysis that all ended up where they belong - in the dumps. Boxing is not simple arithmetics. If you really want to understand boxing, you'll have to learn how to box so you can see the so-called intangibles of the sport. Have you ever wondered in spite your careful analysis why many great boxers and trainers believe Pac has some chances to win the fight? It's because they can see what ordinary folks can't see. For example, how will Floyd react if get hit by a big one, something he has never tasted before? Will he be able to take it or will he get rattled and loses his rhythm, or even kd'd? And this is just one of the many examples...

Originally Posted by pacfan

Real boxing does not work this way, honey. I've seen tons of this type of simplistic and straightforward analysis that all ended up where they belong - in the dumps. Boxing is not simple arithmetics. If you really want to understand boxing, you'll have to learn how to box so you can see the so-called intangibles of the sport. Have you ever wondered in spite your careful analysis why many great boxers and trainers believe Pac has some chances to win the fight? It's because they can see what ordinary folks can't see. For example, how will Floyd react if get hit by a big one, something he has never tasted before? Will he be able to take it or will he get rattled and loses his rhythm, or even kd'd? And this is just one of the many examples...

Voice of reason from the Philippines, must be an enlightened country.

Originally Posted by toto

Many boxing aficionados predicted that Filipino boxing icon Manny Pacquiao’s haymakers would dominate Welterweight pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, Jr. on May 2 (U.S dateline) mega tussle of the century.
Since a boxer is as good as his last six fights, let’s dissect if Pacquiao whirling dervish southpaw stance has still the superiority or pop to deck out Mayweather.

When Pacquiao fought the “Walking Punching Bag” Brandon Rios and the “Run Away Bride”, er, Boxer Cris Algieri compobox bared Pacquiao unleashes a total punch rates of 790 for Rios and 669 for Algieri in the entire 12 Rounds.
In these two lopsided match ups, Pacquiao looks superb as based on his total punches just like during those exploding years where he TKO’d (technical knocked out) and KO’d (knocked out) the bigger but dehydrated or struggling in weight Oscar dela Hoya, Antonio Margarito, and Miguel Cotto.
When Manny however fought Juan Manuel Marquez in 2011 and 2012, he unleashes only a total punch of 578
and 256 (before he was knocked out cold at the 6th Round) or an average punches of 48 and 42 per round on their 2011 and 2013 tussles, respectively.
Why the bone lazy punches from the Filipino to the Mexican compared to his bunches of punches on Rios and Algieri?
My Answer: Because aside from their being a ploughing punching bag and Runaway Bride, er, Pug, Marquez superb counter punching skills deterred Pacquiao to whimsically shoot his punches.
He became tentative if not cautious because he became vulnerable to the 1-2 or 1-2-3 of the Mexican every time he dropped a jab or a straight.
The Mexican fought intelligently by exploiting the weaknesses of the predictable style of the Filipino
(Pacquiao’s right jabs then plunge his chin or set his legs for inertia to trigger his left power punch) by just turning clockwise to avoid the Filipino’s left power punch.
The last time I saw Pacquiao set his predictable left power punch by feinting first two supposed right jabs were in the 6th round of their 2013 match. Marquez made him pay for that blunder as Pacquiao allowed an opening of his chin as a knocked out target of the Mexican looping right punch.
Thanks to his chopping of woods or thanks to controversial conditioning coach Angel "Momo"Heredia?
Pssst, I heard Mayweather, for the first time, chops woods too!


My thesis why Pacquiao will lose to Mayweather by citing Rios, Algieri, and Marquez

First, Rios, Algieri, and Marquez 3 and 4 matches were part of Pacquaio’s last six fights. They said a boxer is as good as his latest matches.

Second, Rios and Algieri are not like Mayweather in terms of boxing I.Q and skills. They are relegated between Vaishya and Shudra while Floyd is a Brahmin if compared to the Indian Caste System we learned in school. If you are a tricycle driver or a plumber of Malabanan Poso Negro who only finished Grade 5 but still read this article, Rios, Algieri, and Marquez can be likened to students of the elite University of the Philippines. While Marquez was a true UPiyan studious student, Rios or Algieri could either be working in the UPi-an ng tansan near U.P or nagbebenta (selling) ng ice water sa loob ng U.P.
Third, although schooled and even knocked down by Mayweather in their September 2009 ho-hum fight, Marquez and Mayweather have similar style in the ring: That being a C-O-U-N-T-E-R P-U-N-C-H-E-R!
The difference however between Mayweather and Marquez is Floyd is three times better than the Mexican in the scarce counter punching industry (Could not yet get my drift here? Watch the Mayweather-Marquez lopsided fight at YouTube to appreciate what I'm arguing here on the counter-punch and escape and evasion techniques of the loquacious, ostentatious, and boastful American).
Aside from being a maestro on these ring guile's, his long jabs, his inimitable feint that allows his punches to vigorously hit behind the ears of the opponents (watch his Robert Guerrero and Cotto’s fights) despite their gloves covering their heads, masterful weaving and bobbling, and the ballyhooed shoulder roll armed with a cocked right and left punch uppercuts. These arsenals of the still fresher American (47 mostly stick- and- run matches) would be too much for Pacquiao ( 57 ring wars and have you heard about wear-and-tear?) who could no longer KO an opponent since he TKO’d Cotto six years ago.
Without that KO, Pacquiao lost his comparative advantage in a marquee fight just like what is going in May 2.
Mayweather's excellent skills made him not only as boxing virtuoso but as the richest sports man of the world since modern boxing was invented in 1867.
(You can read my selected columns at http://**************************** and articles at Pangasinan News Aro. You can send comments too at totomortz@yahoo.com)

Actually he's the 21st richest sportsman ever, still impressive.
Top 50 Richest Athletes | Celebrity Net Worth

Originally Posted by pacfan

Real boxing does not work this way, honey. I've seen tons of this type of simplistic and straightforward analysis that all ended up where they belong - in the dumps. Boxing is not simple arithmetics. If you really want to understand boxing, you'll have to learn how to box so you can see the so-called intangibles of the sport. Have you ever wondered in spite your careful analysis why many great boxers and trainers believe Pac has some chances to win the fight? It's because they can see what ordinary folks can't see. For example, how will Floyd react if get hit by a big one, something he has never tasted before? Will he be able to take it or will he get rattled and loses his rhythm, or even kd'd? And this is just one of the many examples...

The intangibles also favor Mayweather.This fight is about who makes the most mistakes.

Pac is just too damn sloppy to beat JMM,let alone Mayweather.
He will pay dearly for his fly by night style.

Tim Bradley tasted everything Manny had and still managed to put Pac on Elvis legs.

It's hard enough for a tall fighter to land on Floyd,let alone a short guy with short arms ON ONE FOOT....like Manny.

This will be a massacre and it will begin soon as Pac has to cover up..that's when Mayweather will be on those ribs like BBQ sauce.

Pac squares up perfectly for that Mayweather JAB TO THE BODY...if the fight goes into the late rounds,when Pac tries to step on the gas,there will be nothing left in the tank.

Originally Posted by walrus

Originally Posted by pacfan

Real boxing does not work this way, honey. I've seen tons of this type of simplistic and straightforward analysis that all ended up where they belong - in the dumps. Boxing is not simple arithmetics. If you really want to understand boxing, you'll have to learn how to box so you can see the so-called intangibles of the sport. Have you ever wondered in spite your careful analysis why many great boxers and trainers believe Pac has some chances to win the fight? It's because they can see what ordinary folks can't see. For example, how will Floyd react if get hit by a big one, something he has never tasted before? Will he be able to take it or will he get rattled and loses his rhythm, or even kd'd? And this is just one of the many examples...

Voice of reason from the Philippines, must be an enlightened country.

That's not a voice of reason...that's a midget that doesn't know what he's talking about.

Originally Posted by corvette

Originally Posted by walrus

Originally Posted by pacfan

Real boxing does not work this way, honey. I've seen tons of this type of simplistic and straightforward analysis that all ended up where they belong - in the dumps. Boxing is not simple arithmetics. If you really want to understand boxing, you'll have to learn how to box so you can see the so-called intangibles of the sport. Have you ever wondered in spite your careful analysis why many great boxers and trainers believe Pac has some chances to win the fight? It's because they can see what ordinary folks can't see. For example, how will Floyd react if get hit by a big one, something he has never tasted before? Will he be able to take it or will he get rattled and loses his rhythm, or even kd'd? And this is just one of the many examples...

Voice of reason from the Philippines, must be an enlightened country.

That's not a voice of reason...that's a midget that doesn't know what he's talking about.

Racist remarks! Not all Filipino are short, you ignorant monkey! If you were to be from a malnourished country for several generation. Let's see how tall and big your monkey ass gets.

Idiotic comments from posters who should know better.

Why is the nazi picture being tolerated?

Julius

Funny how you complain about what I said.... and not the nazi lover that started this thread.

Typical.

Pacquiao will lose to Mayweather cuz Mayweather is the better fighter. It's that simple

Originally Posted by imp

Idiotic comments from posters who should know better.

Why is the nazi picture being tolerated?

He was a hell of a general.

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Pacquiao will lose to Mayweather cuz Mayweather is the better fighter. It's that simple

Originally Posted by imp

Idiotic comments from posters who should know better.

Why is the nazi picture being tolerated?

He was a hell of a general.

Tell that to the Jews.

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Pacquiao will lose to Mayweather cuz Mayweather is the better fighter. It's that simple

Originally Posted by imp

Idiotic comments from posters who should know better.

Why is the nazi picture being tolerated?

He was a hell of a general.

Tell that to the Jews.

I'm sure they already know

Originally Posted by corvette

Originally Posted by pacfan

Real boxing does not work this way, honey. I've seen tons of this type of simplistic and straightforward analysis that all ended up where they belong - in the dumps. Boxing is not simple arithmetics. If you really want to understand boxing, you'll have to learn how to box so you can see the so-called intangibles of the sport. Have you ever wondered in spite your careful analysis why many great boxers and trainers believe Pac has some chances to win the fight? It's because they can see what ordinary folks can't see. For example, how will Floyd react if get hit by a big one, something he has never tasted before? Will he be able to take it or will he get rattled and loses his rhythm, or even kd'd? And this is just one of the many examples...

The intangibles also favor Mayweather.This fight is about who makes the most mistakes.

Pac is just too damn sloppy to beat JMM,let alone Mayweather.
He will pay dearly for his fly by night style.

Tim Bradley tasted everything Manny had and still managed to put Pac on Elvis legs.

It's hard enough for a tall fighter to land on Floyd,let alone a short guy with short arms ON ONE FOOT....like Manny.

This will be a massacre and it will begin soon as Pac has to cover up..that's when Mayweather will be on those ribs like BBQ sauce.

Pac squares up perfectly for that Mayweather JAB TO THE BODY...if the fight goes into the late rounds,when Pac tries to step on the gas,there will be nothing left in the tank.

Alright, young lady, listen up. You're probably not aware of it but you're being the butt of sexist jokes and being gossiped about in one of the hidden boards here. You gotta post lot more of them nonsense of yours - 650 to be exact - so you can see for yourself what I mean. You don't believe me right? Well I'll give you a hint, this is my proof: does the word cyclone ring a bell to you?

Originally Posted by corvette

Originally Posted by walrus

Originally Posted by pacfan

Real boxing does not work this way, honey. I've seen tons of this type of simplistic and straightforward analysis that all ended up where they belong - in the dumps. Boxing is not simple arithmetics. If you really want to understand boxing, you'll have to learn how to box so you can see the so-called intangibles of the sport. Have you ever wondered in spite your careful analysis why many great boxers and trainers believe Pac has some chances to win the fight? It's because they can see what ordinary folks can't see. For example, how will Floyd react if get hit by a big one, something he has never tasted before? Will he be able to take it or will he get rattled and loses his rhythm, or even kd'd? And this is just one of the many examples...

Voice of reason from the Philippines, must be an enlightened country.

That's not a voice of reason...that's a midget that doesn't know what he's talking about.

Now a midget? this is the first time I've been called that. Well, buddy, I prefer to be called a donkey to a midget coz that's what your li'l sister here calls me and she's lot more cute than you...

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by corvette

Originally Posted by walrus

Originally Posted by pacfan

Real boxing does not work this way, honey. I've seen tons of this type of simplistic and straightforward analysis that all ended up where they belong - in the dumps. Boxing is not simple arithmetics. If you really want to understand boxing, you'll have to learn how to box so you can see the so-called intangibles of the sport. Have you ever wondered in spite your careful analysis why many great boxers and trainers believe Pac has some chances to win the fight? It's because they can see what ordinary folks can't see. For example, how will Floyd react if get hit by a big one, something he has never tasted before? Will he be able to take it or will he get rattled and loses his rhythm, or even kd'd? And this is just one of the many examples...

Voice of reason from the Philippines, must be an enlightened country.

That's not a voice of reason...that's a midget that doesn't know what he's talking about.

Racist remarks! Not all Filipino are short, you ignorant monkey! If you were to be from a malnourished country for several generation. Let's see how tall and big your monkey ass gets.

My man Julius is right. I've grown up eating nothing but mangoes and sometimes grasses when mangoes ran out and that's why I ended up being 5 feet tall - oops, make that 4'11" I'm on a tiptoe but I could hardly reach the 5 foot line on the my height scale.