Thread: Give Mayweather credit... it's Pac you should be disappointed in

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by tysonesque

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Originally Posted by tysonesque

How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

Far from his best, Manny was a big disappointment.

Personally, I think Manny is well past his best and it showed last night. He just didn't have it in him.

I suppose you could say he started much too slow and paid Mayweather too much respect, but when he did let the punches go he just couldn't hit the guy. He couldn't just go windmilling in there and waste even more energy.

Floyd was just too slippery and awkward for him and Manny no longer has enough speed to catch someone like that with any regularity.

At 38 floyd is way past his best but still managing to do enough to beat the best around.

5 years ago manny was a better fighter but let's not forget that so was floyd.

That's purely down to style.

Defensive counter punchers like Floyd who don't waste anything last longer than aggressive, come forward fighters like Manny.

Originally Posted by tysonesque

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by tysonesque

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Originally Posted by tysonesque

How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

Far from his best, Manny was a big disappointment.

Personally, I think Manny is well past his best and it showed last night. He just didn't have it in him.

I suppose you could say he started much too slow and paid Mayweather too much respect, but when he did let the punches go he just couldn't hit the guy. He couldn't just go windmilling in there and waste even more energy.

Floyd was just too slippery and awkward for him and Manny no longer has enough speed to catch someone like that with any regularity.

At 38 floyd is way past his best but still managing to do enough to beat the best around.

5 years ago manny was a better fighter but let's not forget that so was floyd.

That's purely down to style.

Defensive counter punchers like Floyd who don't waste anything last longer than aggressive, come forward fighters like Manny.

And that's the smart move.

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by tysonesque

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by tysonesque

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Originally Posted by tysonesque

How can I be disappointed with Manny?

He's not the fighter he was. He gave his best, but his current best just isn't good enough.

Far from his best, Manny was a big disappointment.

Personally, I think Manny is well past his best and it showed last night. He just didn't have it in him.

I suppose you could say he started much too slow and paid Mayweather too much respect, but when he did let the punches go he just couldn't hit the guy. He couldn't just go windmilling in there and waste even more energy.

Floyd was just too slippery and awkward for him and Manny no longer has enough speed to catch someone like that with any regularity.

At 38 floyd is way past his best but still managing to do enough to beat the best around.

5 years ago manny was a better fighter but let's not forget that so was floyd.

That's purely down to style.

Defensive counter punchers like Floyd who don't waste anything last longer than aggressive, come forward fighters like Manny.

And that's the smart move.

Smart but very, very boring.

How is Floyd the highest paid athlete if he's so boring?

It's amazing how far people will go to discredit Floyd. After doing exactly what I predicted he would do in the fight, people have to use the "boring" excuse. Seriously? That's all you got? Have you not seen Floyd fight before. I could have told you it would be boring for most people. Every sport has to have a variety of styles and not every style can be exciting. The point of a sport is to win first and foremost. Not to entertain. It's obviously entertaining enough though because Floyd got tons of cash for putting on a fight. So some people have to find entertainment in his fighting.

Originally Posted by powerpuncher

It's amazing how far people will go to discredit Floyd. After doing exactly what I predicted he would do in the fight, people have to use the "boring" excuse. Seriously? That's all you got? Have you not seen Floyd fight before. I could have told you it would be boring for most people. Every sport has to have a variety of styles and not every style can be exciting. The point of a sport is to win first and foremost. Not to entertain. It's obviously entertaining enough though because Floyd got tons of cash for putting on a fight. So some people have to find entertainment in his fighting.

Who's discrediting Floyd?

No one can take away what he's achieved, but you can be of the opinion that his style is boring to watch. If you like aggressive fighters who are prepared to get involved in a good scrap, you probably won't find Floyd entertaining... which I don't. He bores me and his style is what made last night's "disappointment of the century" the boring, forgettable overhyped rip off that it was.

In my opinion of course.

Wait which is it give Floyd credit or be ddisappointed in Manny? With such a poor performance from Manny should have been all over him, bbut Floyd showed him way too much respect so they both deserve to be shit on.

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Wait which is it give Floyd credit or be ddisappointed in Manny? With such a poor performance from Manny should have been all over him, bbut Floyd showed him way too much respect so they both deserve to be shit on.

Thing is that the majority of people aren't interested in shitting on Manny, poor old PacMan lost purely because of the big bad nasty cheating Mayweather, it wasn't Manny's fault at all...Oh and he had a sore shoulder as well you know.

Originally Posted by Batman

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Wait which is it give Floyd credit or be ddisappointed in Manny? With such a poor performance from Manny should have been all over him, bbut Floyd showed him way too much respect so they both deserve to be shit on.

Thing is that the majority of people aren't interested in shitting on Manny, poor old PacMan lost purely because of the big bad nasty cheating Mayweather, it wasn't Manny's fault at all...Oh and he had a sore shoulder as well you know.

Always a double standard when it comes to Pac. Pac could have takenn a shotgun in there and people would justify it and say 'well Mayweather deserved it'.

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Wait which is it give Floyd credit or be ddisappointed in Manny? With such a poor performance from Manny should have been all over him, bbut Floyd showed him way too much respect so they both deserve to be shit on.

Floyd won the way he wanted to win: very easily, at a slow work rate and sustaining very little damage.

Manny is the guy who throws a ton of punches, hits hard and fast, knocks guys down and/or out, and overwhelms them with his blinding combinations.

One of those guys fought his fight, the other didn't. And the guy who didn't, lost.

If you're not understanding why Manny didn't throw as many punches as he normally does than there is a large gap in your knowledge of boxing that needs to be filled. You need to go study up, and I mean that with all due respect.

Here's a great video that broke down why JMM gave Pac fits and why Pac wasn't as effective as he normally was. A lot of the same principles apply with Floyd, especially in terms of controlling the range.
A boxer always wants to fight in the way that has landed him success in the past. If he's not doing that, then more often than not it's his opponent that is doing something to prevent him from fighting his fight.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Wait which is it give Floyd credit or be ddisappointed in Manny? With such a poor performance from Manny should have been all over him, bbut Floyd showed him way too much respect so they both deserve to be shit on.

Floyd won the way he wanted to win: very easily, at a slow work rate and sustaining very little damage.

Manny is the guy who throws a ton of punches, hits hard and fast, knocks guys down and/or out, and overwhelms them with his blinding combinations.

One of those guys fought his fight, the other didn't. And the guy who didn't, lost.

If you're not understanding why Manny didn't throw as many punches as he normally does than there is a large gap in your knowledge of boxing that needs to be filled. You need to go study up, and I mean that with all due respect.

This first sentence I agree with to a point. Floyd was not in complete control here. He was sub standard to what we have seen him do in the past. I've watched Floyd stop many attacks in his fights making them pay but that was not happening in this fight. You can probably count the number of landed punches on your fingers and nothing did anything substantial. You going to debate that this was a masterpiece of Floyd's in the ring. Get over yourself. It was a shit performance from both fighters clearly. Manny and what he can do and what he did do are two different things. He looked delusional about what he was getting done. I'm thinking he was hearing the crowd which was largely pro pacquiao.

Originally Posted by tysonesque

Originally Posted by powerpuncher

It's amazing how far people will go to discredit Floyd. After doing exactly what I predicted he would do in the fight, people have to use the "boring" excuse. Seriously? That's all you got? Have you not seen Floyd fight before. I could have told you it would be boring for most people. Every sport has to have a variety of styles and not every style can be exciting. The point of a sport is to win first and foremost. Not to entertain. It's obviously entertaining enough though because Floyd got tons of cash for putting on a fight. So some people have to find entertainment in his fighting.

Who's discrediting Floyd?

No one can take away what he's achieved, but you can be of the opinion that his style is boring to watch. If you like aggressive fighters who are prepared to get involved in a good scrap, you probably won't find Floyd entertaining... which I don't. He bores me and his style is what made last night's "disappointment of the century" the boring, forgettable overhyped rip off that it was.

In my opinion of course.

I'm not saying that you are discrediting Floyd but I have seen many people discredit him for this win. If this fight were a disappointment to you then you set your expectations unrealistically high. It was the exact fight that I expected.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Here's a great video that broke down why JMM gave Pac fits and why Pac wasn't as effective as he normally was. A lot of the same principles apply with Floyd, especially in terms of controlling the range.
A boxer always wants to fight in the way that has landed him success in the past. If he's not doing that, then more often than not it's his opponent that is doing something to prevent him from fighting his fight.

Your putting way too much into the analysis of Floyd and Manny. I could easily just say they were both scared, but it's way more polite to say they had too much respect for each other. They did more posturing than punching. Too much thinking instead of fighting. They weren't forced, lead, tricked or trapped. They both have more than enough athletic ability to get over technical shit, but the hype got stuck in their heads and they both dumped. Pacific a little more of a fail than floyd.

Originally Posted by powerpuncher

Originally Posted by tysonesque

Originally Posted by powerpuncher

It's amazing how far people will go to discredit Floyd. After doing exactly what I predicted he would do in the fight, people have to use the "boring" excuse. Seriously? That's all you got? Have you not seen Floyd fight before. I could have told you it would be boring for most people. Every sport has to have a variety of styles and not every style can be exciting. The point of a sport is to win first and foremost. Not to entertain. It's obviously entertaining enough though because Floyd got tons of cash for putting on a fight. So some people have to find entertainment in his fighting.

Who's discrediting Floyd?

No one can take away what he's achieved, but you can be of the opinion that his style is boring to watch. If you like aggressive fighters who are prepared to get involved in a good scrap, you probably won't find Floyd entertaining... which I don't. He bores me and his style is what made last night's "disappointment of the century" the boring, forgettable overhyped rip off that it was.

In my opinion of course.

I'm not saying that you are discrediting Floyd but I have seen many people discredit him for this win. If this fight were a disappointment to you then you set your expectations unrealistically high. It was the exact fight that I expected.

No doubt floyd clearly won, and your probably in a better place than me for thinking it should have been more of a fight.