Thread: Froch v Golovkin

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Kkkkkkkkkkkking
kkkkkkkkkkkkarl
frochhhhhhhhhhhhhh

blasts the little fake pussy into the 3rd row before round 4

Fuck... Froch is gonna lose now :-/

How much does Froch have left physically and mentally? Personally I don't think he really wants to fight anymore and was hoping for that one cash cow in Vegas that left via the hands of Fonfara. The chance of being laid out like a carpet in his final fight in Vegas is most likely not very appealing at this stage in his career. Oh his right hand could make the difference early in the fight but this looks all wrong for a guy in Carls position.

For the Kazak, should he beat Carl he will be accused of beating up a worn out x-champion for name rec by his skeptics. There is nothing left at 160 as its pretty obvious that the Wbc is not going to enforce its own rules so he might as well move on. If I were him I'd test the waters and then call out Ward

Originally Posted by IamInuit

How much does Froch have left physically and mentally? Personally I don't think he really wants to fight anymore and was hoping for that one cash cow in Vegas that left via the hands of Fonfara. The chance of being laid out like a carpet in his final fight in Vegas is most likely not very appealing at this stage in his career. Oh his right hand could make the difference early in the fight but this looks all wrong for a guy in Carls position.

For the Kazak, should he beat Carl he will be accused of beating up a worn out x-champion for name rec by his skeptics. There is nothing left at 160 as its pretty obvious that the Wbc is not going to enforce its own rules so he might as well move on. If I were him I'd test the waters and then call out Ward

Hows Froch Worn though? Hes coming off one of the best wins of his career and is in fine physical shape.

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by IamInuit

How much does Froch have left physically and mentally? Personally I don't think he really wants to fight anymore and was hoping for that one cash cow in Vegas that left via the hands of Fonfara. The chance of being laid out like a carpet in his final fight in Vegas is most likely not very appealing at this stage in his career. Oh his right hand could make the difference early in the fight but this looks all wrong for a guy in Carls position.

For the Kazak, should he beat Carl he will be accused of beating up a worn out x-champion for name rec by his skeptics. There is nothing left at 160 as its pretty obvious that the Wbc is not going to enforce its own rules so he might as well move on. If I were him I'd test the waters and then call out Ward

Hows Froch Worn though? Hes coming off one of the best wins of his career and is in fine physical shape.

Fair enough but to me he looked sluggish in both Groves fights even with the ko and with all due respect to George, he should have never troubled Carl. More importantly to me is where he is at in his head because it would add to what I think is a physical decline. He's got nothing left to prove, is a throwback in the truest sense of the word, has a new and expanded family (that he seems torn about) and has let his tin slip away. He's also made it pretty well known that he'd like a final in Vegas. Its just the wrong guy to pick as your last hoorah.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

Originally Posted by IamInuit

How much does Froch have left physically and mentally? Personally I don't think he really wants to fight anymore and was hoping for that one cash cow in Vegas that left via the hands of Fonfara. The chance of being laid out like a carpet in his final fight in Vegas is most likely not very appealing at this stage in his career. Oh his right hand could make the difference early in the fight but this looks all wrong for a guy in Carls position.

For the Kazak, should he beat Carl he will be accused of beating up a worn out x-champion for name rec by his skeptics. There is nothing left at 160 as its pretty obvious that the Wbc is not going to enforce its own rules so he might as well move on. If I were him I'd test the waters and then call out Ward

Hows Froch Worn though? Hes coming off one of the best wins of his career and is in fine physical shape.

Fair enough but to me he looked sluggish in both Groves fights even with the ko and with all due respect to George, he should have never troubled Carl. More importantly to me is where he is at in his head because it would add to what I think is a physical decline. He's got nothing left to prove, is a throwback in the truest sense of the word, has a new and expanded family (that he seems torn about) and has let his tin slip away. He's also made it pretty well known that he'd like a final in Vegas. Its just the wrong guy to pick as your last hoorah.

Thats why I dont see it happening unless there is silly money involved. Or Froch really does get the hunger back. I just dont see that at the minute. Robert McCracken still thinks he might box on though.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

How much does Froch have left physically and mentally? Personally I don't think he really wants to fight anymore and was hoping for that one cash cow in Vegas that left via the hands of Fonfara. The chance of being laid out like a carpet in his final fight in Vegas is most likely not very appealing at this stage in his career. Oh his right hand could make the difference early in the fight but this looks all wrong for a guy in Carls position.

For the Kazak, should he beat Carl he will be accused of beating up a worn out x-champion for name rec by his skeptics. There is nothing left at 160 as its pretty obvious that the Wbc is not going to enforce its own rules so he might as well move on. If I were him I'd test the waters and then call out Ward

I disagree, my friend. Froch is a future HOF. He's coming off a couple of big wins against a younger opponent. Believe it or not there were quite a few people that picked the Saint to upset the Cobra. He's also never been stopped. It would be a big deal to stop Froch. If the fight went the distance, and GGG was vulnerable throughout it, it might be just a good way to test the waters, as you suggest, and then he drops back down to 160. On the other hand, a dominant win would give GGG confidence going into a fight with Ward or Kovalev. At bottom, this fight would be so fun to watch, wouldn't it?

And by the way, I pick the Cobra to beat or stop GGG. Froch has the mettle and the punch to put GGG off his normal game plan and I'm not convinced that GGG's physical style will translate above 160.

This is likely to get made. Golovkin wants big money fights. Chavez and Ward aren't big money fights. Alvarez and Cotto are but neither of them want to fight him anytime soon. Golovkin can move up to 168 and if he loses he's still middleweight champ. A defeat abroad at 168 isn't going to make Golovkin any less marketable in America than he is now. It won't damage his brand and Golovkin losing makes a fight with Alvarez or Cotto more likely.

I think we'll see Golovkin concentrate on the not get hit part of boxing a lot more if he fights Froch. He won't just steam into him like he does with guys at 160 and he'll move his head a lot more than he does now. You all know how much I like Froch so I'm picking Golovkin in a FOTY contender. The fact that it will be a hell of a fight and do huge UK PPV numbers and Hearn says sell out Wembley means it's going to get made.

I don't see the fight happening purely because it's a massive risk for Froch. In his two fights with Groves he was dropped and hurt badly. Despite his knockout win over Groves in the rematch, he looked unimpressive and a little bit gun shy.

GGG hits very hard, is hungry and is looking to raise his profile, whereas Froch is in decline and looking to finish his career. If Froch takes the fight I'll be hugely surprised, but I'd also give him some big respect. The thing is, there could be some very big money on the table and that could tempt him.

If it happened I would definitely make GGG the favourite. I might also be tempted to bet on him being the first guy to stop Froch.

Carl Froch starts negotiations with Gennady Golovkin ahead of potential Wembley showdown

There's a link gents. I think GGG KO's him. You don't take a long lay off and then try to take on a murderous puncher especially at 38.

Wasn't Froch 26 or 27 when he turned pro? He might have been a little younger but I know he didn't turn pro till pretty late which means he hasn't had as much mileage as some 38 year olds, he's been in a fair few wars but it's not like he's been in them wars since he was 18 or 19 years old.

Originally Posted by Batman

Wasn't Froch 26 or 27 when he turned pro? He might have been a little younger but I know he didn't turn pro till pretty late which means he hasn't had as much mileage as some 38 year olds, he's been in a fair few wars but it's not like he's been in them wars since he was 18 or 19 years old.

Yes Froch is young in boxing terms, he has fought top contenders but he keeps himself in good condition.Froch would be favourite against GGG.

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Kkkkkkkkkkkking
kkkkkkkkkkkkarl
frochhhhhhhhhhhhhh

blasts the little fake pussy into the 3rd row before round 4

Fuck... Froch is gonna lose now :-/

True that phenomenon. And you're going to have a great month of June

Originally Posted by tysonesque

I don't see the fight happening purely because it's a massive risk for Froch. In his two fights with Groves he was dropped and hurt badly. Despite his knockout win over Groves in the rematch, he looked unimpressive and a little bit gun shy.

GGG hits very hard, is hungry and is looking to raise his profile, whereas Froch is in decline and looking to finish his career. If Froch takes the fight I'll be hugely surprised, but I'd also give him some big respect. The thing is, there could be some very big money on the table and that could tempt him.

If it happened I would definitely make GGG the favourite. I might also be tempted to bet on him being the first guy to stop Froch.

This is a pretty solid preview. Froch doesn't have the defense to avoid GGG's punches for 12 rounds, eventually GGG will catch him, and the question is whether Froch can take the punch or avoid taking too much hurt. He might not be able to. That's the issue. I always wonder with big punchers like GGG how they'll handle being on the receiving end of punches. GGG's faced big punchers before but nothing like Froch. It'll be interesting.

Originally Posted by Islington haye maker

Originally Posted by Fenster

I'm gonna be in the minority but - I think Froch would be too strong for him, push him back and bash him up. Froch has quite a significant height and reach advantage.

What happens to GGG when his murderous left hook and right hand start bouncing back off old big nose's bonce?

Na i have to agree with you.I feel GGG will go toe to toe with him and froch's natural size will be too much in the later rounds.
I think what makes this such a great one thou, is that there be so many opinions on how why and who will win the fight.Get it made

I think most fans would lean towards Froch as he is much bigger, battle tested, clever, and packs a wallop himself.

If this happens ill take GGG as he has all kinds of momentum and he cuts the ring down so well. He's HUNGRY. Froch I don't know about anymore.