Thread: TBEs in other sports

Originally Posted by p4pking

Who cares who the best golfer was, the game stinks, may as well list the greatest lawn bowler of all time.
How about Gary Kasparov in chess?

Yeah, golf isn't my favorite sport either, but it's one of those precious few that is totally individual. In team sports, there's so many variables like how much help you get from your teammates, etc.

Kasparov is a good choice for chess, although there'd be many people that would pick Bobby Fischer instead.

Another sport that doesn't do much for me is car racing.
But if we were to talk about TBE in the NASCAR circuit, I'd pick Richard Petty over anybody else.

... and since we're talking about racing, how about Secretariat as TBE of horses?

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Soccer's a difficult one what about Zidane?

Football is difficult too because of the different positions and expectations those positions carry.

And if we're ignoring injuries and circumstances then Ben Hogan was the best golfer.

Zidane was certainly superb, he is 2nd on my list for best footballers ever, I don't consider players I didn't live through though(like pele and maradona :S) I rate messi over zidane though despite zindanes amazing achievements, he has 3 goals in world cup finals:S and his performance v england in euro 2004 was what zidane was all about.. zidane was immense and a real legend.. I still vote for messi though :S

Formula 1 - Aryton Senna (despite Schumacher's 7 titles)

Sailing - Ben Ainslie

Rowing - Steve Redgrave

Cycling - Eddy Merckx

Agree with many of the others already mentioned. Accept for Baseball, Ice Hockey, Basketball and American Football which I don't know enough about to do anything than repeat what I've heard.

Oh and by the way if Ferenc Puskas played for Brazil in the 70s he would be widely regarded as the best ever. 84 goals in 85 games for Hungary.

Good discussion.

Went through and gathered some of the obvious votes (sorry if I missed any non-obvious ones) and this is sort of the list I can cobble together at this point:

Tennis - Federer (5 votes), Nadal (1 vote)

Golf - Nicklaus (2 votes), Tiger (2 votes), Hogan (1 vote)

Baseball - Ted Williams, Mays, Bonds, Ruth, Cobb (1 vote each)

Hockey - Gretzky (3 votes), Roenick (1 vote)..... surprised no Lemieux although I agree with Gretzky

Soccer - Pele (3 votes), Messi (2 votes), Zidane (1 vote)

Basketball - Jordan (3 votes), Chamberlain (1 vote), Steve Nash? (1 vote)

NFL - Montana, Brown (1 vote each)..... although I agree and refrained on the basis it's too much a position-dependent sport

Snooker - O'Sullivan, Hendry (1 vote each)

Darts - Phil Taylor (2 votes)

Sprinting - Bolt (4 votes), Michael Johnson (1 vote)

Swimming - Weissmuller, Mousambani, Spitz (1 vote each)

Rugby - Gareth Edwards

Distance running - Halle Gebresellasie

MMA - Jon Jones

Skateboarding - Tony Hawk

Downhill skiing - Sonny Bono

Karate - Norris, Lee (1 vote each)

Middle distance - Sebastian Coe

Ski jumping - Eddie Edwards

Cricket - Don Bradman

College basketball - Pete Maravich

NASCAR - Richard Petty

Formula 1 - Aryton Senna

Cycling - Eddy Merckx

Horse racing - Secretariat

Course fishing - Bob Nudd

Thai skiing (really?) - Vanessa Mae

Sailing - Ben Ainslie

Rowing - Steve Redgrave


Anyway... we're still missing some sports that may or may not be considered, but that certainly must have their own TBE's, like......

Pocket billiards, speed skating, gymnastics, archery, volleyball, diving.......

Richard Petty wasn't the best driver his car was just better than everyone else's. Petty had a Dodge Charger and it was a BEAST. I'd say Dale was the best, but The King won a lot of races.

Originally Posted by ryanman

Formula 1 - Aryton Senna (despite Schumacher's 7 titles)

Sailing - Ben Ainslie

Rowing - Steve Redgrave

Cycling - Eddy Merckx

Agree with many of the others already mentioned. Accept for Baseball, Ice Hockey, Basketball and American Football which I don't know enough about to do anything than repeat what I've heard.

Oh and by the way if Ferenc Puskas played for Brazil in the 70s he would be widely regarded as the best ever. 84 goals in 85 games for Hungary.

Good Pics. I will second Puskas (behind Trevor Brooking and Argyle's Tommy Tynan and Paul Mariner of course )

Best Diver / Being gay seems to help, Louganis, Daely, ...Cristiano Ronaldo, Suarez, Robben

Redgrave just completely smashes TBE rowing award and also has a pretty strong case for TBE Olympian.

5 medals in consecutive Olympic games (with Diabetes too )

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Good discussion.

Went through and gathered some of the obvious votes (sorry if I missed any non-obvious ones) and this is sort of the list I can cobble together at this point:

I didn't actually mean to vote for nadal but I will stick with it :S

I will add in my other selections for sports i watch below(which isn't many).


Snooker -Stephen Hendry, got to go with the scotsman he was unstoppable in his prime

Darts - Phil Taylor

Sprinting - Michael Johnson

formula 1 - schumacher

Cycling - lance armstrong

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Good discussion.

Went through and gathered some of the obvious votes (sorry if I missed any non-obvious ones) and this is sort of the list I can cobble together at this point:

Tennis - Federer (5 votes), Nadal (1 vote)

Golf - Nicklaus (2 votes), Tiger (2 votes), Hogan (1 vote)

Baseball - Ted Williams, Mays, Bonds, Ruth, Cobb (1 vote each)

Hockey - Gretzky (3 votes), Roenick (1 vote)..... surprised no Lemieux although I agree with Gretzky

Soccer - Pele (3 votes), Messi (2 votes), Zidane (1 vote)

Basketball - Jordan (3 votes), Chamberlain (1 vote), Steve Nash? (1 vote)

NFL - Montana, Brown (1 vote each)..... although I agree and refrained on the basis it's too much a position-dependent sport

Snooker - O'Sullivan, Hendry (1 vote each)

Darts - Phil Taylor (2 votes)

Sprinting - Bolt (4 votes), Michael Johnson (1 vote)

Swimming - Weissmuller, Mousambani, Spitz (1 vote each)

Rugby - Gareth Edwards

Distance running - Halle Gebresellasie

MMA - Jon Jones

Skateboarding - Tony Hawk

Downhill skiing - Sonny Bono

Karate - Norris, Lee (1 vote each)

Middle distance - Sebastian Coe

Ski jumping - Eddie Edwards

Cricket - Don Bradman

College basketball - Pete Maravich

NASCAR - Richard Petty

Formula 1 - Aryton Senna

Cycling - Eddy Merckx

Horse racing - Secretariat

Course fishing - Bob Nudd

Thai skiing (really?) - Vanessa Mae

Sailing - Ben Ainslie

Rowing - Steve Redgrave


Anyway... we're still missing some sports that may or may not be considered, but that certainly must have their own TBE's, like......

Pocket billiards, speed skating, gymnastics, archery, volleyball, diving.......

Bump. (I like this topic)

Looking at the list some years later, I'd add Lebron James to the list in basketball, and certainly Tom Brady to the list in football.

Football - Ronaldo and Messi with Mbappe and Kane in the near future

Originally Posted by Master

Football - Ronaldo and Messi with Mbappe and Kane in the near future

Absolutely. But judging by age and performance, I'd say Mbappe has a good chance to overtake them all.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Master

Football - Ronaldo and Messi with Mbappe and Kane in the near future

Absolutely. But judging by age and performance, I'd say Mbappe has a good chance to overtake them all.

Neymar, if he can get his hair right can do well too.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Master

Football - Ronaldo and Messi with Mbappe and Kane in the near future

Absolutely. But judging by age and performance, I'd say Mbappe has a good chance to overtake them all.

Neymar, if he can get his hair right can do well too.

Ah yes..... Neymar.

He's got the unique opportunity to win both a Globe Soccer Award... AND... a Golden Globe Award at the same time.

Bump.

With all due respect to Montana and Brown and Rodgers and Bradshaw and Unitas, etc, etc,.............. the TBE/GOAT position in the NFL has already been etched in stone.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Good discussion.

Went through and gathered some of the obvious votes (sorry if I missed any non-obvious ones) and this is sort of the list I can cobble together at this point:

Tennis - Federer (5 votes), Nadal (1 vote)

Golf - Nicklaus (2 votes), Tiger (2 votes), Hogan (1 vote)

Baseball - Ted Williams, Mays, Bonds, Ruth, Cobb (1 vote each)

Hockey - Gretzky (3 votes), Roenick (1 vote)..... surprised no Lemieux although I agree with Gretzky

Soccer - Pele (3 votes), Messi (2 votes), Zidane (1 vote)

Basketball - Jordan (3 votes), Chamberlain (1 vote), Steve Nash? (1 vote)

NFL - Montana, Brown (1 vote each)..... although I agree and refrained on the basis it's too much a position-dependent sport

Snooker - O'Sullivan, Hendry (1 vote each)

Darts - Phil Taylor (2 votes)

Sprinting - Bolt (4 votes), Michael Johnson (1 vote)

Swimming - Weissmuller, Mousambani, Spitz (1 vote each)

Rugby - Gareth Edwards

Distance running - Halle Gebresellasie

MMA - Jon Jones

Skateboarding - Tony Hawk

Downhill skiing - Sonny Bono

Karate - Norris, Lee (1 vote each)

Middle distance - Sebastian Coe

Ski jumping - Eddie Edwards

Cricket - Don Bradman

College basketball - Pete Maravich

NASCAR - Richard Petty

Formula 1 - Aryton Senna

Cycling - Eddy Merckx

Horse racing - Secretariat

Course fishing - Bob Nudd

Thai skiing (really?) - Vanessa Mae

Sailing - Ben Ainslie

Rowing - Steve Redgrave


Anyway... we're still missing some sports that may or may not be considered, but that certainly must have their own TBE's, like......

Pocket billiards, speed skating, gymnastics, archery, volleyball, diving.......

Bump. (I like this topic)

Looking at the list some years later, I'd add Lebron James to the list in basketball, and certainly Tom Brady to the list in football.

Here’s my nominations ...
Federer
Woods
(I’m too ignorant about baseball and ice hockey to have a decent opinion)
Pele
Jordan
(also a newbie to NFL )
Hendry
Taylor
Bolt
Phelps
i nominated Edwards and Gabresellassie so better not vote again!

Cricket - definitely Bradman as a batsman, but I will go with Holding as a bowler and Botham as an all rounder
F1 for me is Senna

Originally Posted by X

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Good discussion.

Went through and gathered some of the obvious votes (sorry if I missed any non-obvious ones) and this is sort of the list I can cobble together at this point:

Tennis - Federer (5 votes), Nadal (1 vote)

Golf - Nicklaus (2 votes), Tiger (2 votes), Hogan (1 vote)

Baseball - Ted Williams, Mays, Bonds, Ruth, Cobb (1 vote each)

Hockey - Gretzky (3 votes), Roenick (1 vote)..... surprised no Lemieux although I agree with Gretzky

Soccer - Pele (3 votes), Messi (2 votes), Zidane (1 vote)

Basketball - Jordan (3 votes), Chamberlain (1 vote), Steve Nash? (1 vote)

NFL - Montana, Brown (1 vote each)..... although I agree and refrained on the basis it's too much a position-dependent sport

Snooker - O'Sullivan, Hendry (1 vote each)

Darts - Phil Taylor (2 votes)

Sprinting - Bolt (4 votes), Michael Johnson (1 vote)

Swimming - Weissmuller, Mousambani, Spitz (1 vote each)

Rugby - Gareth Edwards

Distance running - Halle Gebresellasie

MMA - Jon Jones

Skateboarding - Tony Hawk

Downhill skiing - Sonny Bono

Karate - Norris, Lee (1 vote each)

Middle distance - Sebastian Coe

Ski jumping - Eddie Edwards

Cricket - Don Bradman

College basketball - Pete Maravich

NASCAR - Richard Petty

Formula 1 - Aryton Senna

Cycling - Eddy Merckx

Horse racing - Secretariat

Course fishing - Bob Nudd

Thai skiing (really?) - Vanessa Mae

Sailing - Ben Ainslie

Rowing - Steve Redgrave


Anyway... we're still missing some sports that may or may not be considered, but that certainly must have their own TBE's, like......

Pocket billiards, speed skating, gymnastics, archery, volleyball, diving.......

Bump. (I like this topic)

Looking at the list some years later, I'd add Lebron James to the list in basketball, and certainly Tom Brady to the list in football.

Here’s my nominations ...
Federer
Woods
(I’m too ignorant about baseball and ice hockey to have a decent opinion)
Pele
Jordan
(also a newbie to NFL )
Hendry
Taylor
Bolt
Phelps
i nominated Edwards and Gabresellassie so better not vote again!

Cricket - definitely Bradman as a batsman, but I will go with Holding as a bowler and Botham as an all rounder
F1 for me is Senna

I'm with you on every name on the list, except for Woods.

In the NFL I'd put Tom Brady without a shadow of a doubt.

Bolt, Phelps, and Senna... absolutely. And some of the others I'm afraid I know very little about.