Miranda might still be a little green, but overall he looked good. Congrats on the win, and yes he deserves a date with HBO or Showtime. Well, at least an undercard.

I just realized something rather interesting...
6 out of the last 7 guys Miranda has faced have never boxed again (this includes Eastman). Getting hurt real bad by that power would make you think twice about getting back into the ring.

Rumor has it that Eastman went to the hospital after the fight. If he was smart he would have stopped by the unemployment office as well!

ok buddy don't get carried away, Eastman had him hurt and a few times at that, plus the fight just happened Friday, give him a break, as for the hospital every fighter has to go to the hospital after the fight it's routine check up to make sure they're completely ok, Trinidad beat his opponants way worse than what Miranda did, and I'm pretty sure he would have KO'd Eastman as well, probably in a more brutal fashion than it happened on Friday, as a matter of fact, if Trinidad and Miranda were to fight i think Tito would blow him away completely

Originally Posted by Pantera

I just realized something rather interesting...
6 out of the last 7 guys Miranda has faced have never boxed again (this includes Eastman). Getting hurt real bad by that power would make you think twice about getting back into the ring.

Rumor has it that Eastman went to the hospital after the fight. If he was smart he would have stopped by the unemployment office as well!

To be honest mate you are getting very annoying!!

We gather your a big fan, but your going on about Miranda as if he has just beat one of the top guys in World Boxing, relax sit back and have another look at who he has beat, a 35 year old man who has never won a fight outside his own backyard, who had lost his previous fight which 8 months ago. I predictid Eastman on the sheer fact experience and who he had shared a ring with.

Eastman was a decent challenge and Miranda took his oppurtunity very well, but you are going way over the top, Eastman was just about top 10 in the 160 divison.

Also are you going to talk about anything else on this forum apart from your boy " Miranda??"

Originally Posted by Pantera

I think Miranda just bought a date with HBO with the Eastman KO

Are you his Marketing manager by any chance

exactly quit running your mouth boy
like he did something great
he beat a man just like many others have beat opponents
that doesnt make him a big name
well see when he gets his ass handed to him
by a real great fighter
if you stilll gonna ride his dick like an obsessive bitch

Originally Posted by KickboxAmob

exactly quit running your mouth boy
like he did something great
he beat a man just like many others have beat opponents
that doesnt make him a big name
well see when he gets his a** handed to him
by a real great fighter
if you stilll gonna ride his dick like an obsessive bitch

Easy now...not necessary.

Originally Posted by Pantera

Rumor has it that Eastman went to the hospital after the fight. If he was smart he would have stopped by the unemployment office as well!

As stated by ElTerribleMorales...yes...every fighter that get's knocked out goes to the hospital after a fight babe.

As harsh as it sounds though...I do agree with you...it might be time for Eastman to think about something else outside of boxing. Two young up & coming fighters have pretty much humiliated Howard...no matter what faces he makes after the decisions or him getting stopped.

I like Eastman & I recognize his skills...I always have...but it might be time to ride off into the sunset.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Trinidad beat his opponants way worse than what Miranda did, and I'm pretty sure he would have KO'd Eastman as well, probably in a more brutal fashion than it happened on Friday, as a matter of fact, if Trinidad and Miranda were to fight i think Tito would blow him away completely

Now...my thing about Edison Miranda is this...Tito had a pretty extensive background with boxing. Olympics/ams & what not...Miranda did not. He's just coming up & he's doing it damned well. I'll be honest...I'm fairly impressed with what he did against Eastman...but he's still got a lot of work to do. Power only carries you for so long...as Trinidad found out later in the game.

Tito's defense was just as holey as Miranda's is. That's going to be a problem...especially if Miranda matches wits with a thinking boxer that's got a good defense. Eastman was skilled but he fought the wrong fight IWO & he fought it against the younger stronger man.

Originally Posted by skel1983

We gather your a big fan, but your going on about Miranda as if he has just beat one of the top guys in World Boxing, relax sit back and have another look at who he has beat, a 35 year old man who has never won a fight outside his own backyard, who had lost his previous fight which 8 months ago. I predictid Eastman on the sheer fact experience and who he had shared a ring with.

Eastman was a decent challenge and Miranda took his oppurtunity very well, but you are going way over the top, Eastman was just about top 10 in the 160 divison.

Fair is fair...Eastman was a huge step up. Let's not disrespect the win by making excuses for Eastman now. Backyard or not...he got his ass handed to him in brutal fashion.

Also...Eastman has always done enough to be top 10 material. I wanna see how Miranda does with someone that's as young & hungry as he is. Toss him in with Abraham...that'll be a damned explosive fight.

Agreed Wacko, it was a good win for Miranda but he was favourite to win this fight.

My point was that Pantera has created probably 9/10 threads regarding this fight, which i dont think it merit's, it was an IBF eliminator not a unification or even a World Title fight. Also he repeats himself and states the same messages over and over and it's now becoming very boring.

Like i said all credit to him and his boy, but lets put it into context he beat a good pro campainer who yes has never been stopped but who also has failed at World Level more than once.

Originally Posted by skel1983

Agreed Wacko, it was a good win for Miranda but he was favourite to win this fight.

True...but in such a fashion? Knocking out Eastman? I would have never expected it...

Originally Posted by skel1983

My point was that Pantera has created probably 9/10 threads regarding this fight, which i dont think it merit's, it was an IBF eliminator not a unification or even a World Title fight. Also he repeats himself and states the same messages over and over and it's now becoming very boring.

I agree...it is...bothersome...but everyone pretty much does it. Read the same shat over & over about Joe Calzaghe, Ricky Hatton, Floyd Mayweather, & Margarito...everyone is up in air over their favorites...it's common place but it does become a bore.

I myself am guilty of it...we all are.

Originally Posted by skel1983

Like i said all credit to him and his boy, but lets put it into context he beat a good pro campainer who yes has never been stopped but who also has failed at World Level more than once.

Again...I just think that it's impressive how he beat Eastman. That will stick out in my mind...also the fact that it was Miranda's first attempt at a World Level status...

I see where you are coming from...don't think that I don't...it's just one of those things.

Originally Posted by KickboxAmob

exactly quit running your mouth boy
like he did something great
he beat a man just like many others have beat opponents
that doesnt make him a big name
well see when he gets his a** handed to him
by a real great fighter
if you stilll gonna ride his dick like an obsessive bitch

First of all let's get something straight here. I am obviously a big fan of Miranda and when I see some stupid comments about him I will reply with my opinion. If I repeat myself it's just because some idiots keep posting the same stupid things in different threads. You accuse me of starting 9/10 threads about Miranda. Well just to keep it real, 23 posts were started in March about Miranda or about Miranda vs Eastman. Of those 23 I started 6 (wacko started 5!). And of the 6 I started, they were not to start bragging, but mostly for informational purpose. Now I can almost guarantee you that I replied to statements made in most if not all of the other 17 threads.

Excuse me if I have gotten 'overly' excited about this win. I have been fortunate enough to have met Miranda when he first came into the country, and have seen and talked to him a half of dozen times since. I've watched him spar a couple of times and have been to his 5 USA fights. He is a real nice kid who lives and breathes boxing and works his a** off. After surviving the hardships he came from, I wish him the best and hope he can continue to exploit the middleweight division. My opinions may be extreme, but that's what happen when you become a true fan of any person or team. Hell, we all have had to hear the BS about Sturm from Wacko before and after his recent fight!

I don't think I am any different from many other of the fans on here, it just happens that Miranda is the flavor of the week and much has been said about him recently. I also contribute much to this board about many other topics... but I will always contribute when it comes to Miranda.

I apologize if I have bothered anyone with my opinions or remarks.

An apology is not good enuff. I was deeply offended...

Originally Posted by Pantera

Originally Posted by KickboxAmob

exactly quit running your mouth boy
like he did something great
he beat a man just like many others have beat opponents
that doesnt make him a big name
well see when he gets his a** handed to him
by a real great fighter
if you stilll gonna ride his dick like an obsessive bitch

First of all let's get something straight here. I am obviously a big fan of Miranda and when I see some stupid comments about him I will reply with my opinion. If I repeat myself it's just because some idiots keep posting the same stupid things in different threads. You accuse me of starting 9/10 threads about Miranda. Well just to keep it real, 23 posts were started in March about Miranda or about Miranda vs Eastman. Of those 23 I started 6 (wacko started 5!). And of the 6 I started, they were not to start bragging, but mostly for informational purpose. Now I can almost guarantee you that I replied to statements made in most if not all of the other 17 threads.

Excuse me if I have gotten 'overly' excited about this win. I have been fortunate enough to have met Miranda when he first came into the country, and have seen and talked to him a half of dozen times since. I've watched him spar a couple of times and have been to his 5 USA fights. He is a real nice kid who lives and breathes boxing and works his a** off. After surviving the hardships he came from, I wish him the best and hope he can continue to exploit the middleweight division. My opinions may be extreme, but that's what happen when you become a true fan of any person or team. Hell, we all have had to hear the BS about Sturm from Wacko before and after his recent fight!

I don't think I am any different from many other of the fans on here, it just happens that Miranda is the flavor of the week and much has been said about him recently. I also contribute much to this board about many other topics... but I will always contribute when it comes to Miranda.

I apologize if I have bothered anyone with my opinions or remarks.

Have a cc

Listen mate, thats good your boys doing good, it wasnt a personal insult, but you are a big fan and all the best for your boy, but like i said when this guy has done something against the top guys i will take more notice, i just dont think this sort of fight needs to be gone over and over i dont think Toney and Rahman got as much coverage.

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by Pantera

Originally Posted by KickboxAmob

exactly quit running your mouth boy
like he did something great
he beat a man just like many others have beat opponents
that doesnt make him a big name
well see when he gets his a** handed to him
by a real great fighter
if you stilll gonna ride his dick like an obsessive bitch

First of all let's get something straight here. I am obviously a big fan of Miranda and when I see some stupid comments about him I will reply with my opinion. If I repeat myself it's just because some idiots keep posting the same stupid things in different threads. You accuse me of starting 9/10 threads about Miranda. Well just to keep it real, 23 posts were started in March about Miranda or about Miranda vs Eastman. Of those 23 I started 6 (wacko started 5!). And of the 6 I started, they were not to start bragging, but mostly for informational purpose. Now I can almost guarantee you that I replied to statements made in most if not all of the other 17 threads.

Excuse me if I have gotten 'overly' excited about this win. I have been fortunate enough to have met Miranda when he first came into the country, and have seen and talked to him a half of dozen times since. I've watched him spar a couple of times and have been to his 5 USA fights. He is a real nice kid who lives and breathes boxing and works his a** off. After surviving the hardships he came from, I wish him the best and hope he can continue to exploit the middleweight division. My opinions may be extreme, but that's what happen when you become a true fan of any person or team. Hell, we all have had to hear the BS about Sturm from Wacko before and after his recent fight!

I don't think I am any different from many other of the fans on here, it just happens that Miranda is the flavor of the week and much has been said about him recently. I also contribute much to this board about many other topics... but I will always contribute when it comes to Miranda.

I apologize if I have bothered anyone with my opinions or remarks.

Have a cc

Listen mate, thats good your boys doing good, it wasnt a personal insult, but you are a big fan and all the best for your boy, but like i said when this guy has done something against the top guys i will take more notice, i just dont think this sort of fight needs to be gone over and over i dont think Toney and Rahman got as much coverage.

Toney and Rahman was actually a less exciting fight though.

Originally Posted by Pantera

First of all let's get something straight here. I am obviously a big fan of Miranda and when I see some stupid comments about him I will reply with my opinion. If I repeat myself it's just because some idiots keep posting the same stupid things in different threads. You accuse me of starting 9/10 threads about Miranda. Well just to keep it real, 23 posts were started in March about Miranda or about Miranda vs Eastman. Of those 23 I started 6 (wacko started 5!). And of the 6 I started, they were not to start bragging, but mostly for informational purpose. Now I can almost guarantee you that I replied to statements made in most if not all of the other 17 threads.

Excuse me if I have gotten 'overly' excited about this win. I have been fortunate enough to have met Miranda when he first came into the country, and have seen and talked to him a half of dozen times since. I've watched him spar a couple of times and have been to his 5 USA fights. He is a real nice kid who lives and breathes boxing and works his a** off. After surviving the hardships he came from, I wish him the best and hope he can continue to exploit the middleweight division. My opinions may be extreme, but that's what happen when you become a true fan of any person or team. Hell, we all have had to hear the BS about Sturm from Wacko before and after his recent fight!

I don't think I am any different from many other of the fans on here, it just happens that Miranda is the flavor of the week and much has been said about him recently. I also contribute much to this board about many other topics... but I will always contribute when it comes to Miranda.

I apologize if I have bothered anyone with my opinions or remarks.

Personally...I don't see what the fwock your'e apologizing for...really I don't.

You didn't say anything out of line nor did you do anything that other people on this forum have done.

Your opinions are just as valueable as the next gent here...so do your thing how you like...I think that when I say that I speak for the majority of everyone on here who has also posted over & over about their favorite fighter.

People need to turn the clock back to when Calzaghe beat Lacy & before the fight...you couldn't click your mouse or hit the space bar without seeing one or the other's name.

Fair is fair...I honestly think that if you voice your opinion & you do it respectfully...your'e in the clear.

I could be wrong...either way. I share your enthusiasm & again...I applaude Miranda for stepping up & getting the job done.