Thread: Will Wlad retire on an unbeaten, unchallenged streak?

This is two-part question.

What are the chances Wlad retires without being beaten again, or even unchallenged? 100%? 80%? 50%?

If you think he gets beaten or challenged (competitive fight... maybe even a knockdown of Wlad).... by whom?

I already know one answer. That'll be Ross.... saying 100%.... and it'll be Fury.

But what about the rest?

Personally, I'm pessimistic. Way too many timid sheep have paraded in front of Wlad, helping him fatten his record on his way to the boxing HOF. Lots of big mouths.... only to turn in a pretty subpar job come fight night. Now there's these big, young, fast, knockout artists (Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker) coming up........ but it's a dollar short and a day late. Maybe post-Wlad we'll have some classic battles between the Furys, the Wilders, the Joshuas, the Parkers, etc. But for this 2-3 year window where Wlad will still be around..... the pickings are slim. You look at the currently ranked HWs and it's a "who's who" of fighters Wlad has already beaten (Jennings, Povetkin, Thompson (twice)).... fighters who have no chance against Wlad (Stiverne, Arreola, Molina).... or fighters who will be peaking when Wlad has already retired.

Fury takes him out October.

Ok.
Ross and Mark TKO.

No, scratch that.
Ross, Mark TKO, Tyson, and Tyson's mum.

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

Fury takes him out October.

Dinner and a movie?





Wladimir will more than likely retire without losing again. Wladimir has 23 successful title defenses (if you include the first WBO reign) but more recently he's on an 18 successful title defense streak 2nd to Joe Louis (25) and Larry Holmes (20). Wlad will pass Joe Louis for most heavyweight title fights with 27 when he fights Tyson Fury. You look at the fighters out there that have the potential to beat him and there might be 1 or 2, you look at the guys who he'll have trouble against again maybe 1 or 2, but here's the key, you look at the guys READY to fight him....0, there's nobody on that level, nobody even close to that level.

Tyson Fury will get toyed with and knocked out....or maybe just knocked out if he keeps talking. What does Fury have that troubles Wlad? Size? Wlad has an easier time fighting guys his own size, not a more difficult one. Fury fights southpaw....yeah, so did Chagaev, so did Pianeta, so did Byrd, so did Thompson.

At the end of the day Tyson Fury is the one that will be asked the questions: Are you world class? Are you a great heavyweight? Do you actually have the talent you brag about? And I expect all of those to be answered "NO" and his brother Hughie is no better.


Deontay Wilder? Meh, he's got power. Joshua? Wlad will probably be retired before he's ready and that's IF Joshua stays undefeated. I don't see any retreads doing the job. I don't see anyone new getting it done either....Wlad is THE MAN and has been for some time now.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Ok.
Ross and Mark TKO.

No, scratch that.
Ross, Mark TKO, Tyson, and Tyson's mum.

The Fury Clan!

Wlad could retire undefeated but I think he will push it too far and get beaten one day. I hope it is his next fight, so add me to the clan.

No I think eventually he'll get beaten by someone down the line when he's 40 plus.

I think he's too competitive to drop out without a loss. Vitali dropped on a roll but he also had his mind on politics and he did look like he lost a step in the Charr fight, even in winning so quickly.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Fury fights southpaw....yeah, so did Chagaev, so did Pianeta, so did Byrd, so did Thompson.

I thought it was interesting that there have apparently been only 5 southpaw heavyweight champions in history( I didn't bother to check this fact too thoroughly) and wladimir has fought 4 of them, beating chagaev, byrd and ibragimov , then obviously there is corrie sanders !


Anyway I voted 50%, wladimir seems pretty keen on fighting on for a lot longer, he signed up for another 5 fight tv deal and he was also talking about fighting joshua so if what he says is true it looks like he'll be facing off v some top guys into his 40s so his age really could catch up with him and I can see him getting ko'd if he carries on too long, he already looks a bit slower on his feet to me.

Wilder has the tools and the build, but I don't think he is going to react well to Wlad's power. Fury is going to get sparked early.

Wlad = world steroid champion

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Wlad = world steroid champion

Do you have proof? Don't take this as a challenge, I am not looking for an argument, just asking what you've heard, read or seen and if you can direct me to the same sources.

I can see unbeaten. Furys chance is to come quick and careless early. Otherwise Wlad will be throwing fastballs through a window in brutal fashion.

fury wont beat him

there are fighters around now that could though, depends how long he carries on for

Originally Posted by beenKOed

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Wlad = world steroid champion

Do you have proof? Don't take this as a challenge, I am not looking for an argument, just asking what you've heard, read or seen and if you can direct me to the same sources.

There'll never be proof because he doesn't have to go through any real drug testing.

Dude is juicing.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by beenKOed

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Wlad = world steroid champion

Do you have proof? Don't take this as a challenge, I am not looking for an argument, just asking what you've heard, read or seen and if you can direct me to the same sources.

There'll never be proof because he doesn't have to go through any real drug testing.

Dude is juicing.

im not saying he is or he isnt

but id be highly surprised if he wasnt, the amount of money he generates

then again if you told me any pro boxer anywhere near the top was using peds i wouldnt be surprised