Thread: alien life

At least 100 billion planets alone in the Milky Way that could support life. That is just in our galaxy.

Scientists estimate over 100 billion galaxies.

The math seems overwhelming.

Its only our built in arrogance that suggests that since we have yet to find any, it does not exist. It took us until late last week to consider the possibility that running water exists on Mars. Still SETI has found nothing and the giant telescopes/cameras in deep space have seen nothing unless they have and have said nothing.

Flowing waters may have meant life existed on Mars.

Originally Posted by Master

Flowing waters may have meant life existed on Mars.

Or still does?

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At this point I retire from posting. All the best saddo's.

Originally Posted by Gandalf

At this point I retire from posting. All the best saddo's.

Why? Have we exposed you as an alien?

Originally Posted by IamInuit

At least 100 billion planets alone in the Milky Way that could support life. That is just in our galaxy.

Scientists estimate over 100 billion galaxies.

The math seems overwhelming.

Its only our built in arrogance that suggests that since we have yet to find any, it does not exist. It took us until late last week to consider the possibility that running water exists on Mars. Still SETI has found nothing and the giant telescopes/cameras in deep space have seen nothing unless they have and have said nothing.

Been thinking about what I said here and you know its also quite possible that we are unique and there is no other life in our galaxy because nothing has found us either. We cant assume that they would be at the same level we are, less or greater then.

Also belief in other life somewhere is really no different then the belief in a designer or creator of this planet. I mean it really is astonishing given the math that we or they have not found each other. They must be there because of the math and yet no proof of their existence.

I truly question if world leaders would want it to be known.

It would totally destroy their best mind game of subservient: religion.


On another level, I like how one intellect raised the question: there could be life that we are totally incapable of grasping.

Like different forms of fish species in the deep that live and die without a clue that there is an end to their environment(water) called air.
And something could possibly survive...out of water, like animals, people and birds.

Water literally is their universe.

Our physical bodies are like galaxies to living organisms we can't see.
Life form can be conscious, but not intellectual. Where there is both, intellect still seems to have its limits.

Originally Posted by SlimTrae

I truly question if world leaders would want it to be known.

It would totally destroy their best mind game of subservient: religion.


On another level, I like how one intellect raised the question: there could be life that we are totally incapable of grasping.

Like different forms of fish species in the deep that live and die without a clue that there is an end to their environment(water) called air.
And something could possibly survive...out of water, like animals, people and birds.

Water literally is their universe.

Our physical bodies are like galaxies to living organisms we can't see.
Life form can be conscious, but not intellectual. Where there is both, intellect still seems to have its limits.

Slim, just a quick mention, alien life would not affect religion. If we, being religious, say life can not exist other, we are limiting God's creative ability. So it is quite contrary, saying life can't exist other than earth may be the anti religious view.

Originally Posted by walrus

Originally Posted by SlimTrae

I truly question if world leaders would want it to be known.

It would totally destroy their best mind game of subservient: religion.

Slim, just a quick mention, alien life would not affect religion. If we, being religious, say life can not exist other, we are limiting God's creative ability. So it is quite contrary, saying life can't exist other than earth may be the anti religious view.

I disagree. Alien existence can have a deep impact on people whose religions claims the universe's creator sent himself down to die for us. Or he impregnated a woman to bring forth one who would die for our sins.

Is the god doing this for other life forms on other planets?
Maybe these aliens are the angels the bible speaks of? Creating aliens (angels) that have far greater power than we?

If aliens came to earth- & we could communicate with them -- I dunno 'bout what U'd ask; but I'd ask them-
1. Who is your creator?
2. Does the creator have a nemesis? We do- it's called devil who has aids called demons.
3. Did your creator send himself or a representative to be murdered for your failure (on earth dear alien we call it sin-
4. Did your creator make anything- that existed in your domain- as something to look at but don't touch/eat? We do. On earth we have a creator who made a forbidden tree-
5. We have a creator that not only placed this forbidden tree in our midst, but allowed his nemesis to question why we shouldn't partake.- the result- is to be consumed by what we call fire. Duration=eternity.


Personally, I think there is life form somewhere in the cosmos. I think their supreme being is ours as well. But the manifestation of the creator's creation doesn't have to look anything like us.
Based on their elements on their planet could mean they will look different-behave different.
Probably free of religions -like ours.

Interesting questions for the aliens. Good idea to swiftly get them laughing their heads off at how nuts humans are.

Mars may have been entirely submerged in water, increasing the likelihood that Red Planet once supported life, scientists have revealed.

The research team found evidence that a mineral found in Martian meteorites may have originally been a hydrogen-containing mineral, meaning there could have been more water on Mars at one stage.

Researchers created a synthetic version of a hydrogen-containing mineral known as whitlockite.

After shock-compression experiments on whitlockite samples that simulated the conditions of ejecting meteorites from Mars, the researchers then studied their microscopic makeup with X-ray experiments with top-of-the-line machinery.

Martin Kunz, a staff scientist at Berkeley Lab's ALS who participated in X-ray studies of the samples, said: "This is important for deducing how much water could have been on Mars, and whether the water was from Mars itself rather than comets or meteorites."

Their experiments showed that whitlockite can become dehydrated from such shocks, forming merrillite, a mineral that is commonly found in Martian meteorites but does not occur naturally on Earth.

Study co-lead Professor Oliver Tschauner, from the University of Nevada, said: "If even a part of merrillite had been whitlockite before, it changes the water budget of Mars dramatically."

Because whitlockite can be dissolved in water and contains phosphorous, an essential element for life on Earth, the study further increases the chances there could have been life on Mars.

Prof Tschauner said: "The overarching question here is about water on Mars and its early history on Mars: Had there ever been an environment that enabled a generation of life on Mars?"

The pressures and temperatures generated in the shock experiments, while comparable to those of a meteorite impact, lasted for only about 100 billionths of a second, or about one-tenth to one-hundredth as long as an actual meteorite impact.

The fact that experiments showed even partial conversion to merrillite in these lab-created conditions, a longer duration impact would likely have produced "almost full conversion" - which could be why they cannot find any whitlockite in their Martian samples.

Professor Tschauner added that this latest study appears to be one of the first of its kind to detail the shock effects on synthetic whitlockite, which is rare on Earth.

Researchers blasted the synthetic whitlockite samples with metal plates fired from a gas-pressurised gun at speeds of up to 1,678 miles per hour, at ultra-high pressure - to simulate being blasted out to space from Mars.

There is evidence that liquid water flows on Mars today, though there has not yet been scientific proof that life has ever existed on Mars.

In 2013, planetary scientists reported that darkish streaks that appear on Martian slopes are likely related to occasional rivers flowing down the hills.

And in November 2016, Nasa scientists reported that a large underground body of water ice in one region of Mars contains the equivalent of all of the water in Lake Superior, the largest of the Great Lakes.

Rover explorations have also found evidence of the former abundance of water based on analysis of surface rocks.

Prof Tschauner said: "The only missing link now is to prove that merrillite had, in fact, really been Martian whitlockite before.

"We have to go back to the real meteorites and see if there had been traces of water."

The study was published today in the journal Nature Communications.

Red Planet may once have been completely underwater, say Mars scientists

Awesome post bud. I believe that we are Martians. That either Martian civilization was collapsing due to geologic catastrophe and Martian scientists launched a kind if Noah's Ark of DNA to seed the Earth in a last ditch to preserve life, OR a meteor with Martian (or any other planet) MICROBIAL LIFE smashed randomly into Earth. @Master

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Awesome post bud. I believe that we are Martians. That either Martian civilization was collapsing due to geologic catastrophe and Martian scientists launched a kind if Noah's Ark of DNA to seed the Earth in a last ditch to preserve life, OR a meteor with Martian (or any other planet) MICROBIAL LIFE smashed randomly into Earth. @Master

That is the plot to a Hollywood film.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Awesome post bud. I believe that we are Martians. That either Martian civilization was collapsing due to geologic catastrophe and Martian scientists launched a kind if Noah's Ark of DNA to seed the Earth in a last ditch to preserve life, OR a meteor with Martian (or any other planet) MICROBIAL LIFE smashed randomly into Earth. @Master

That is the plot to a Hollywood film.

It is probably the plot the several books as well. What is your opinion about how life formed on Earth?

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Awesome post bud. I believe that we are Martians. That either Martian civilization was collapsing due to geologic catastrophe and Martian scientists launched a kind if Noah's Ark of DNA to seed the Earth in a last ditch to preserve life, OR a meteor with Martian (or any other planet) MICROBIAL LIFE smashed randomly into Earth. @Master

That is the plot to a Hollywood film.

It is probably the plot the several books as well. What is your opinion about how life formed on Earth?

Your latter idea but not necessarily from Mars. A meteor carrying bacteria landing on earth and forming life as we know it.