Thread: Smokin' Joe Frazier ~ 'Scheduled Bouts That We Missed Out On'

Smokin' Joe Frazier

~ Scheduled Bouts That We Missed Out On ~

1966 ......... Tony Alongi
1966 ......... Oscar Bonavena II
1966 ......... Zora Folley
1966 ......... Ernie Terrell

1967 ......... Thad Spencer
1967 ......... Cleveland Williams
1967 ......... Karl Mildenberger
1967 ......... Henry Cooper
1967 ......... Leotis Martin

1968 ......... Eduardo Corletti
1968 ......... Henry Clark

1969 ......... Sonny Liston
1969 ......... Floyd Patterson
1969 ......... Oscar Bonavena III
1969 ......... Buster Mathis II
1969 ......... Peter Weiland
1969 ......... Al Jones
1969 ......... George Chuvalo II

1970 ........ Leotis Martin
1970 ........ Jerry Quarry II
1970 ........ Sonny Liston
1970 ........ Mac Foster
1970 ........ Luis Pires

1971 ........ Jack Bodell
1971 ........ Jose Manuel Urtain
1971 ........ Al 'Blue' Lewis
1971 ........ Henry Cooper
1971 ........ Floyd Patterson

1972 ........ Danny McAlinden
1972 ........ Chuck Wepner
1972 ........ Ron Lyle
1972 ........ Larry Middleton
1972 ........ Juergen Blin

1973 ....... Ken Norton
1973 ....... Earnie Shavers
1973 ....... Jeff Merritt
1973 ....... Ron Lyle
1973 ....... George Foreman II

1974 ....... Roy Williams
1974 ....... Henry Clark

1975 ....... Jimmy Young
1975 ....... Jody Ballard

1976 ....... Johnny Boudreaux
1976 ....... Scott LeDoux
1976 ....... Miek Schutte
1976 ....... Neville Meade

1977 ....... Alfredo Evangelista
1977 ....... Gerrie Coetzee

1978 ....... Kallie Knoetze
1978 ....... John Tate

1979 ....... Jim Abbott

Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Smokin' Joe Frazier

~ Scheduled Bouts That We Missed Out On ~

1966 ......... Tony Alongi
1966 ......... Oscar Bonavena II
1966 ......... Zora Folley
1966 ......... Ernie Terrell

1967 ......... Thad Spencer
1967 ......... Cleveland Williams
1967 ......... Karl Mildenberger
1967 ......... Henry Cooper

1968 ......... Leotis Martin
1968 ......... Henry Clark

1969 ......... Sonny Liston
1969 ......... Floyd Patterson
1969 ......... Oscar Bonavena III
1969 ......... Buster Mathis II
1969 ......... Peter Weiland
1969 ......... George Chuvalo II

1970 ........ Leotis Martin
1970 ........ Jerry Quarry II
1970 ........ Sonny Liston
1970 ........ Mac Foster

1971 ........ Jack Bodell
1971 ........ Jose Manuel Urtain
1971 ........ Henry Cooper
1971 ........ Floyd Patterson

1972 ........ Danny McAlinden
1972 ........ Chuck Wepner
1972 ........ Ron Lyle
1972 ........ Larry Middleton
1972 ........ Juergen Blin

1973 ....... Earnie Shavers
1973 ....... Jeff Merritt
1973 ....... Ron Lyle
1973 ....... George Foreman II

1974 ....... Roy Williams
1974 ....... Henry Clark

1975 ....... Jimmy Young
1975 ....... Jody Ballard

1976 ....... Scott LeDoux
1976 ....... Mike Schutte
1976 ....... Leon Shaw

1977 ....... Kallie Knoetzee
1977 ....... Gerrie Coetzee

1978 ....... John Tate

~ Smoke, But No Fire ~

There was 'chatter' about Smokin' Joe Frazier taking on Kenny Norton in 1973, after Kenny 'smashed'
Muhammad Ali's jaw.

Also, Smokin' Joe and the 'chatter'. We were supposed to go to South Africa to take on 'Jumbo' Jim Abbott in 1979.

thats 2 JUMBO's then. Jumbo Abbot and Jumbo Cummings. Then there's Jumbo ~Candle~ @walrus

Frazier v Patterson would have been good.

Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Smokin' Joe Frazier

~ Scheduled Bouts That We Missed Out On ~

1966 ......... Tony Alongi
1966 ......... Oscar Bonavena II
1966 ......... Zora Folley
1966 ......... Ernie Terrell

1967 ......... Thad Spencer
1967 ......... Cleveland Williams
1967 ......... Karl Mildenberger
1967 ......... Henry Cooper
1967 ......... Leotis Martin

1968 ......... Eduardo Corletti
1968 ......... Henry Clark

1969 ......... Sonny Liston
1969 ......... Floyd Patterson
1969 ......... Oscar Bonavena III
1969 ......... Buster Mathis II
1969 ......... Peter Weiland
1969 ......... Al Jones
1969 ......... George Chuvalo II

1970 ........ Leotis Martin
1970 ........ Jerry Quarry II
1970 ........ Sonny Liston
1970 ........ Mac Foster
1970 ........ Luis Pires

1971 ........ Jack Bodell
1971 ........ Jose Manuel Urtain
1971 ........ Al 'Blue' Lewis
1971 ........ Henry Cooper
1971 ........ Floyd Patterson

1972 ........ Danny McAlinden
1972 ........ Chuck Wepner
1972 ........ Ron Lyle
1972 ........ Larry Middleton
1972 ........ Juergen Blin

1973 ....... Ken Norton
1973 ....... Earnie Shavers
1973 ....... Jeff Merritt
1973 ....... Ron Lyle
1973 ....... George Foreman II

1974 ....... Roy Williams
1974 ....... Henry Clark

1975 ....... Jimmy Young
1975 ....... Jody Ballard

1976 ....... Johnny Boudreaux
1976 ....... Scott LeDoux
1976 ....... Mike Schutte
1976 ....... Neville Meade

1977 ....... Alfredo Evangelista
1977 ....... Gerrie Coetzee

1978 ....... Kallie Knoetze
1978 ....... John Tate

1979 ....... Jim Abbott

Refined

Saturday ~ June 2, 1979

Promoter - Bob Arum wanted Smokin' Joe Frazier to come out of retirement and take on
South Africa Heavyweight - 'Jumbo' Jimmy Abbott.

The 10-Round bout was to be on the undercard of the Kallie Knoetze vs. John Tate
'WBA Elimination Bout' held at Independence Stadium in Mmabatho, South Africa.

Bob Arum had put this deal on the table to Smokin' Joe in April of 1979.

Joe Frazier {Age; 35 years, 3 months} said that he would need 6-to-7 Weeks to prepare.

At the time, 'Jumbo' Jimmy Abbott {Age; 19 years, 11 months} had a record of 10-0-0 {8 KO's}
and was ranked as the #17 WBA Heavyweight. They were looking for a 'name' to post on
his just starting ledger.

I believe Joe Frazier was offered $200,000 plus expenses, and an Advertising Deal worth an
additional $50,000.

'Jumbo' Jimmy Abbott {6' 5" and 250 lbs.} was a South African Mammoth-Beast with a tremendous
right-hand.

It Would Have Been Interesting ......