Thread: Amir Khan v Saul Alvarez

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Khan cant lose this fight. Gonna be a onesided schooling. Canelos face be a bloody mess by the end of the fight. Khan at 4/1 with Marathonbet. Easy money!

You are crazy, no way Khan wins.

Its my Ross moment I really just dont think Canelo is any good

I can understand people feeling Canelo is overrated and I believe taking this fight is a lose-lose and could come back to bite him in the ass.
But I'm curious, where would you put him in
a. The LMW ratings ?and
b. The MW ratings ?
Add to that , where you would put Khan in the WW ratings?

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

Well , fair enough . We'll have to agree to disagree. As soon as you said Lee would beat Canelo, I knew we'd be miles apart. 😉

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

Well , fair enough . We'll have to agree to disagree. As soon as you said Lee would beat Canelo, I knew we'd be miles apart. 😉

A 6'2 Middle with genuine power could be a handful for Canelo. Id definitely give him a shot against Canelo. He had close fights with Saunders and Quillen.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Canelo should overpower him and really hand out a beating, but Khan needs a knockout to win anyway....just look at how Cotto-Canelo played out

And Mayweather - Canelo with the ridiculously bent scoring

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

Did you have Lara beating Canelo when they fought? I just can't see it myself. Kind of agree on Charlo, assuming you mean Jermell.... I don't understand why it's his brother and not him facing Trout next, although it's still a good crossroads fight I think Jermell is clearly the more talented. Andrade seems to be doing fuck all, he looks to have one of the best jabs in the sport and I can understand favouring him over Canelo, but he just isn't doing anything.

Originally Posted by Master

It seems Khan is training very hard. Could he pull it off.

This is a good listen.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03sffq8

If Khan does anything but box and run he dies !!!!

But even if he does that Canelo will not only over power him, he'll outbox and out class him. By Round 4 we’ll be hearing Roy Jones Jr again doing his "He's not getting up Jim !! He's not getting up Jim !!"

It has mismatch written all over it. How Oscar has talked people in to this, is amazing but I don't blame Team Khan for this smash and grab.

What a guy won't do for $8M! Next.

Can anyone think of a supposedly chinny fighter who moved up a weight class or two and became more durable ?

Ashley Theopane says Khan can cause Nelo problems but I wouldn't pay too much attention to a man who's name is Ashley.

Originally Posted by denilson200

Originally Posted by Master

It seems Khan is training very hard. Could he pull it off.

This is a good listen.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03sffq8

If Khan does anything but box and run he dies !!!!

But even if he does that Canelo will not only over power him, he'll outbox and out class him. By Round 4 I we’ll be hearing Roy Jones Jr again doing his "He's not getting up Jim !! He's not getting up Jim !!"

It has mismatch written all over it. How Oscar has talked people in to this, is amazing but I don't blame Team Khan for this smash and grab.

What a guy won't do for $8M! Next.

Can anyone think of a supposedly chinny fighter who moved up a weight class or two and became more durable ?

Ashley Theopane says Khan can cause Nelo problems but I wouldn't pay too much attention to a man who's name is Ashley.

You don't give Khan a chance based on the fact he has darker skin than the obviously "WHITE" Canelo ?

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by denilson200

Originally Posted by Master

It seems Khan is training very hard. Could he pull it off.

This is a good listen.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03sffq8

If Khan does anything but box and run he dies !!!!

But even if he does that Canelo will not only over power him, he'll outbox and out class him. By Round 4 I we’ll be hearing Roy Jones Jr again doing his "He's not getting up Jim !! He's not getting up Jim !!"

It has mismatch written all over it. How Oscar has talked people in to this, is amazing but I don't blame Team Khan for this smash and grab.

What a guy won't do for $8M! Next.

Can anyone think of a supposedly chinny fighter who moved up a weight class or two and became more durable ?

Ashley Theopane says Khan can cause Nelo problems but I wouldn't pay too much attention to a man who's name is Ashley.

You don't give Khan a chance based on the fact he has darker skin than the obviously "WHITE" Canelo ?

Try to read my words, instead of trying to read my mind. You brought up race. Not me. However unlike you I don't joke around when I talk about race. I talk about race in a very serious manner. Because racism is serious

Originally Posted by p4pking

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

Did you have Lara beating Canelo when they fought? I just can't see it myself. Kind of agree on Charlo, assuming you mean Jermell.... I don't understand why it's his brother and not him facing Trout next, although it's still a good crossroads fight I think Jermell is clearly the more talented. Andrade seems to be doing fuck all, he looks to have one of the best jabs in the sport and I can understand favouring him over Canelo, but he just isn't doing anything.

I had it close but thought if Lara was a bit smarter he could have won clearly. If they rematches Id fancy Lara and if the odds were similar to the last fight Id be all in on him

Amir Khan has refused to rule out a switch from boxing to mixed martial arts ahead of one of the biggest fights of his career.

The 29-year-old is preparing for his WBC middleweight title clash against Saúl Álvarez in Las Vegas on Saturday.

But he's hinted at swapping the ring for the octagon.

"My speed would be perfect for MMA, it's hit and move. I wouldn't let anyone get close to me," Khan said.

The Olympic silver medallist has a stake in a MMA company called Super Fight league.

"We have a lot of shows in Dubai," he told reporters.

"I was at the last SFL show watching the guys at my weight and I swear, even though I have no experience of MMA, I could have stepped in and done the business.

"I really thought 'shall I go in there and do something crazy?' Lucky I didn't, I probably would have got banned from boxing.

"I've already done MMA training, grappling stuff and the other bits and pieces.

"I enjoyed it, it's good fun and is good for preparing to fight a guy like Alvarez, who likes to put the pressure on."

Khan wouldn't be the first boxer to make the switch.

Former UFC Bantamweight Champion Holly Holm, was a professional boxer before turning to mixed martial arts.

Khan has long been a UFC fan and reckons he's got the skills to take on the sport's biggest stars.

"Doing MMA training means I know the positions to be in. It's all about the feet.
"MMA is a little slower than boxing but you make up for that by using your elbows and knees.

"I can kick hard, don't worry about that. I also believe boxers punch harder than MMA fighters.

"Imagine Mike Tyson as a heavyweight hitting a guy on the floor 20 times."

Boxer Amir Khan refuses to rule out switch to MMA - BBC Newsbeat

Originally Posted by denilson200

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by denilson200

Originally Posted by Master

It seems Khan is training very hard. Could he pull it off.

This is a good listen.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03sffq8

If Khan does anything but box and run he dies !!!!

But even if he does that Canelo will not only over power him, he'll outbox and out class him. By Round 4 I we’ll be hearing Roy Jones Jr again doing his "He's not getting up Jim !! He's not getting up Jim !!"

It has mismatch written all over it. How Oscar has talked people in to this, is amazing but I don't blame Team Khan for this smash and grab.

What a guy won't do for $8M! Next.

Can anyone think of a supposedly chinny fighter who moved up a weight class or two and became more durable ?

Ashley Theopane says Khan can cause Nelo problems but I wouldn't pay too much attention to a man who's name is Ashley.

You don't give Khan a chance based on the fact he has darker skin than the obviously "WHITE" Canelo ?

Try to read my words, instead of trying to read my mind. You brought up race. Not me. However unlike you I don't joke around when I talk about race. I talk about race in a very serious manner. Because racism is serious

Read my words it was a serious question , don't you think Khan has a chance because he is darker and may suit the hot conditions better ?

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by denilson200

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by denilson200

Originally Posted by Master

It seems Khan is training very hard. Could he pull it off.

This is a good listen.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03sffq8

If Khan does anything but box and run he dies !!!!

But even if he does that Canelo will not only over power him, he'll outbox and out class him. By Round 4 I we’ll be hearing Roy Jones Jr again doing his "He's not getting up Jim !! He's not getting up Jim !!"

It has mismatch written all over it. How Oscar has talked people in to this, is amazing but I don't blame Team Khan for this smash and grab.

What a guy won't do for $8M! Next.

Can anyone think of a supposedly chinny fighter who moved up a weight class or two and became more durable ?

Ashley Theopane says Khan can cause Nelo problems but I wouldn't pay too much attention to a man who's name is Ashley.

You don't give Khan a chance based on the fact he has darker skin than the obviously "WHITE" Canelo ?

Try to read my words, instead of trying to read my mind. You brought up race. Not me. However unlike you I don't joke around when I talk about race. I talk about race in a very serious manner. Because racism is serious

Read my words it was a serious question , don't you think Khan has a chance because he is darker and may suit the hot conditions better ?

Even though your trying to be sarcastic, Khan was raised in Northern England (Bolton) - Canelo was rasied in Mexico. Mexico is hotter than Bolton