Thread: Prime Calzaghe vs Golovkin

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Fuck off!

Calzaghe beat fighters that would beat Golovkin.

No contest.

Golovkin would of never ducked Sven Ottke the way Calzaghe did

GGG would get strait shut out by a prime Calzaghe he is huge compared to GGG and has reach on him. Also he is faster he would destroy GGG would be a repeat Lacy pretty much as i see it. There a reason GGG not moving up and stays in the baron waste land of the division he is in now.

Note to North American friends - Calzaghe did exist before he turned 36. I know right??

Not putting the blame on you for not being aware of him, but just make a note that perhaps his physical peak was behind him by Lacy, and even further by Jones, Hopkins. People talk like that was a prime Calzaghe. Not at all. Compare like for like or state that your comparing prime GGG vs Old Man Joe....or else

Originally Posted by ryanman

Note to North American friends - Calzaghe did exist before he turned 36. I know right??

Not putting the blame on you for not being aware of him, but just make a note that perhaps his physical peak was behind him by Lacy, and even further by Jones, Hopkins. People talk like that was a prime Calzaghe. Not at all. Compare like for like or state that your comparing prime GGG vs Old Man Joe....or else

Can't blame North Americans though because before then he hadn't fought anyone

Joes talent-accomplishment gap is the greatest in the sports history(not counting guys that died or were injured ending their careers) as far as I'm concerned. He was so damn good but he didn't fight people that were also good. GGG before GGG

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Fuck off!

Calzaghe beat fighters that would beat Golovkin.

No contest.

Golovkin would of never ducked Sven Ottke the way Calzaghe did

Yeah because Golovkin is know for fighting the best and highest caliber?!

Cant believe you even said that.

Calzaghe goes down in the 4th but wins the fight over 12 with his jab, movement, speed and superhuman combinations. Tricky early on but easier and easier as Golovkin wears down from the pace.

If Golovkin won't fight Ward he wouldn't have fought Joe either.

Joe was a massive supermiddle, bigger frame, reach and granite chin and would have comprehensively outboxed Golovkin.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Joe was a massive supermiddle, bigger frame, reach and granite chin and would have comprehensively outboxed Golovkin.

Yup, but the most important part is that Joe would never have fought GGG because Calzaghe was a massive pussy and never took a risk in his entire career and why is that? Well RJJ & Hopkins damn near beat him when they were ANCIENT......so yeah, although Calzaghe was a very accomplished fighter and one of the best super middleweights of recent memory he was also not about to leave the comfy confines of England to go fight someone MORE accomplished than himself until he was absolutely certain he was going to win. Same could be and should be said about Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Joe was a massive supermiddle, bigger frame, reach and granite chin and would have comprehensively outboxed Golovkin.

Yup, but the most important part is that Joe would never have fought GGG because Calzaghe was a massive pussy and never took a risk in his entire career and why is that? Well RJJ & Hopkins damn near beat him when they were ANCIENT......so yeah, although Calzaghe was a very accomplished fighter and one of the best super middleweights of recent memory he was also not about to leave the comfy confines of England to go fight someone MORE accomplished than himself until he was absolutely certain he was going to win. Same could be and should be said about Floyd Mayweather Jr.

He fought a prime unbeaten Kessler, he fought Lacy when a lot of the boxing world were saying he was the coming thing. How many top Americans go and fight outside America? Wilder almost had to recently but only because he lost a purse bid and would have had to give his title up. Fuck, you can't get Floyd to leave Vegas or Ward to leave California.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

He fought a prime unbeaten Kessler, he fought Lacy when a lot of the boxing world were saying he was the coming thing. How many top Americans go and fight outside America? Wilder almost had to recently but only because he lost a purse bid and would have had to give his title up. Fuck, you can't get Floyd to leave Vegas or Ward to leave California.

2 fights in a 46 fight career and yet again Kessler in Wales and Lacy in Manchester....such bravery from Calzaghe! Gee you REALLY changed my mind


I wish more Americans would travel and defend their WORLD titles. Deontay Wilder is a good example, and yet Kirkland I didn't mention him as he's not claiming to be "The greatest heavyweight ever!" he's pretty much a novice a Michael Grant part 2 to this point. I DID mention Floyd Mayweather Jr. how anyone could consider him among the greatest fighters of all time is beyond me. I should have also mentioned Andre Ward as well as he never leaves California and rarely leaves the Oakland San Jose area, but you did that for me.....thanks for the help.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Joe was a massive supermiddle, bigger frame, reach and granite chin and would have comprehensively outboxed Golovkin.

Yup, but the most important part is that Joe would never have fought GGG because Calzaghe was a massive pussy and never took a risk in his entire career and why is that? Well RJJ & Hopkins damn near beat him when they were ANCIENT......so yeah, although Calzaghe was a very accomplished fighter and one of the best super middleweights of recent memory he was also not about to leave the comfy confines of England to go fight someone MORE accomplished than himself until he was absolutely certain he was going to win. Same could be and should be said about Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Calzaghe was in his late 30's so his prime was over when fought them both as well. I do not get it really you call them old and Calazghe was 36 and 37 he was just as old. Also after he beat Hopkins how many others did after him not many and he was much older. GGG has not even faced anyone near Kessler level and you do not see him jumping up to face real comp is he a pussy. I guess he must be because his wins list is horde and he is waiting on guys from lower weights while fighting in a division worse then Joes. I am not even going to talk about RJJ almost beating Calzaghe that just pure hater thing to say he got clocked goofing off and then Calzaghe beat him every signal round. Calzaghe if we go by comp has fought better guys then GGG himself and won so i feel he would do just fine and fight him in Wales which would make you mad.

Calzaghe is 3 years younger than Roy Jones Jr. and 7 years younger than Bernard Hopkins.

Joe Calzaghe fought NEITHER in their primes

RJJ was 4 years removed from the KO loss to Tarver in their rematch and Hopkins was 44 years old when Calzaghe finally decided to fight him.




I'm sorry Calzaghe fans, but just as people say "Well Ricky Hatton wouldn't have done that to a Prime Kostya Tszyu" Joe wouldn't have been able to beat either RJJ or Bernard in their primes and guess what......he had ample opportunity to fight both of them in their primes, and he CHOSE not to.

Originally Posted by Mr140

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Joe was a massive supermiddle, bigger frame, reach and granite chin and would have comprehensively outboxed Golovkin.

Yup, but the most important part is that Joe would never have fought GGG because Calzaghe was a massive pussy and never took a risk in his entire career and why is that? Well RJJ & Hopkins damn near beat him when they were ANCIENT......so yeah, although Calzaghe was a very accomplished fighter and one of the best super middleweights of recent memory he was also not about to leave the comfy confines of England to go fight someone MORE accomplished than himself until he was absolutely certain he was going to win. Same could be and should be said about Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Calzaghe was in his late 30's so his prime was over when fought them both as well. I do not get it really you call them old and Calazghe was 36 and 37 he was just as old. Also after he beat Hopkins how many others did after him not many and he was much older. GGG has not even faced anyone near Kessler level and you do not see him jumping up to face real comp is he a pussy. I guess he must be because his wins list is horde and he is waiting on guys from lower weights while fighting in a division worse then Joes. I am not even going to talk about RJJ almost beating Calzaghe that just pure hater thing to say he got clocked goofing off and then Calzaghe beat him every signal round. Calzaghe if we go by comp has fought better guys then GGG himself and won so i feel he would do just fine and fight him in Wales which would make you mad.

Well put a old Joe fought a old a RRJ and a old Hopkins, so it was all pretty even and Calzaghe was the best of the bunch.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Calzaghe is 3 years younger than Roy Jones Jr. and 7 years younger than Bernard Hopkins.

Joe Calzaghe fought NEITHER in their primes

RJJ was 4 years removed from the KO loss to Tarver in their rematch and Hopkins was 44 years old when Calzaghe finally decided to fight him.




I'm sorry Calzaghe fans, but just as people say "Well Ricky Hatton wouldn't have done that to a Prime Kostya Tszyu" Joe wouldn't have been able to beat either RJJ or Bernard in their primes and guess what......he had ample opportunity to fight both of them in their primes, and he CHOSE not to.

Rjj i am not so sure how he would do against Calzaghe but i feel Hopkins and Calzaghe are very close fight i mean look at some of guys gave Hopkins trouble at mw. I mean if look at who they fought Hopkins comp was the same as Calzaghe expect he beat blown up welter weights with name value. Then there was Taylor who he lost to so Hopkins and Calzaghe are on par with each other as far as i can see you do not like Calzaghe because he fought in his country. I used to feel the same i am from Cali and that makes me from US last time i checked our fighters never leave our state either.

Joe Calzaghe didn't even unify titles at 168 until he fought Lacy.....and Joe had 6 more fights......wow, such a grueling career


RJJ was at 175 to be fought by ANYONE WILLING from 1996 to 2002....where was Joe?
Hopkins was at 160 forever! Calzaghe was B-Hop's 3rd ever fight at 175.


Joe Calzaghe sat back, fought the likes of Tocker fucking Pudwill and waited for the best of his era to fade. FACT.


Was Calzaghe talented? Yes absolutely. Was Joe "Great"? You can safely consider him one of the best at 168. Was Joe the best of his era? No, Hell no, FUCK NO!

I say the same about Floyd Mayweather Jr and the same about Andre Ward.


Do you praise Kevin McBride and Danny Williams for beating Mike Tyson?

Then why praise Calzaghe?