Thread: Fighters's Kryptonite.

Watching that Jumbo Cummings clump again it's surprising how fast Bruno recovered. If he hit the deck more when nailed it would have helped him.

On a side note he looked tiny compared to todays heavyweights - 217 lbs.

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

Jermain Taylor reached a level of success and just decided he didn't have to work on improving.

I caught up with him real fast too. Talk about a short prime. He really blew an opportunity for greatness.

Ditto for Chad Dawson, he had talent but I'll be damned if he ever truly listened to a single word from any of his trainers.

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by El Kabong

You assume I'm saying...
"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that"


When I am really saying...
"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that"

They are the same

Actually no they aren't the first one suggests Frank Bruno was constantly hurt the second one says Frank Bruno was hurt in the same way constantly.

But you're a retard with no soul, so carry on

LOL...I got it.I think...
Bruno doesn't get hurt in every fight. But if he does get hurt. He just can't seem to recover.

What about Holyfield on the end of a jab. Sure some of the heaviest jabs at time..Foreman, Moorer, Lewis, Bowe but among a few who caught him flush and buzzed at one point or another. Just rewatched Stewart and even a Rodriquez stick him repeatedly before the end came. Probably Mercers best punch against him really.

Salido- Rules
Norris- At times mistook sitting or downed fighters as still six foot tall and hit them in the head.

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

Jermain Taylor reached a level of success and just decided he didn't have to work on improving.

I caught up with him real fast too. Talk about a short prime. He really blew an opportunity for greatness.

I really think Taylor maxed it out with what he had. He was never very fluid or much of a complicated over thinker in there, almost had a rigidity about him with that bow and arrow delivery and at times flat feet. He started to bust up before and after Hopkins but always a tremendous full chest of courage and damn it all attitude. He didn't really dog it with soft comp after Hopkins either, guy burned at both ends for sure though and very quick rise and fall.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

Jermain Taylor reached a level of success and just decided he didn't have to work on improving.

I caught up with him real fast too. Talk about a short prime. He really blew an opportunity for greatness.

Ditto for Chad Dawson, he had talent but I'll be damned if he ever truly listened to a single word from any of his trainers.

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by El Kabong

You assume I'm saying...
"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that"


When I am really saying...
"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that"

They are the same

Actually no they aren't the first one suggests Frank Bruno was constantly hurt the second one says Frank Bruno was hurt in the same way constantly.

But you're a retard with no soul, so carry on

nope, think you need to reword it

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

Jermain Taylor reached a level of success and just decided he didn't have to work on improving.

I caught up with him real fast too. Talk about a short prime. He really blew an opportunity for greatness.

Ditto for Chad Dawson, he had talent but I'll be damned if he ever truly listened to a single word from any of his trainers.

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by El Kabong

You assume I'm saying...
"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that"


When I am really saying...
"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that"

They are the same

Actually no they aren't the first one suggests Frank Bruno was constantly hurt the second one says Frank Bruno was hurt in the same way constantly.

But you're a retard with no soul, so carry on

nope, think you need to reword it

Alright...

"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that, you cunt"


...better?

James Toney - Burger King
Tyson - the whole world was his kryptonite
Roy Jones & Zab Judah - their father

Originally Posted by NVSemin

James Toney - Burger King
Tyson - the whole world was his kryptonite
Roy Jones & Zab Judah - their father

Roy's dad made him.

BTW, I'm talking about attributes such as a jab or speed.

Ken Norton had his issues with his chin vs anyone who was a big power puncher, other than that he was a hell of a fighter, very cagey, very strong.

Goerge Foreman had issues with opponents who could move because he couldn't land as clean on them or with as much force.

Height and reach were obstacles for Mike Tyson which he typically overcame with his upperbody movement which let's be honest was the best next to Ali and Vitali Klitschko in terms of being a heavyweight avoiding punches to the head....his lack of dedication to training at the end of his prime really made it hard for him to continue being as dominant of a fighter as he could have been.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by NVSemin

James Toney - Burger King
Tyson - the whole world was his kryptonite
Roy Jones & Zab Judah - their father

Roy's dad made him.

He hated his father and admittedly decided to loose the fight against Tarver, so his father won't claim it as his victory. Roy is a typical "abused" child, abused psychologically of course by this "Roy's dad made him". Children need love, not training

Originally Posted by NVSemin

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by NVSemin

James Toney - Burger King
Tyson - the whole world was his kryptonite
Roy Jones & Zab Judah - their father

Roy's dad made him.

He hated his father and admittedly decided to loose the fight against Tarver, so his father won't claim it as his victory. Roy is a typical "abused" child, abused psychologically of course by this "Roy's dad made him". Children need love, not training

I agree with you but the time and dedication Senior put in to abuse Junior made him the great fighter he became.

Most great fighters come from rough and shitty back grounds what makes them great because they are hunger for a win other wise back to shit hole there from. Most great fighter end up having fucked up parents are poor and have no way out but to fuck people up need that push most of the time.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

Jermain Taylor reached a level of success and just decided he didn't have to work on improving.

I caught up with him real fast too. Talk about a short prime. He really blew an opportunity for greatness.

Ditto for Chad Dawson, he had talent but I'll be damned if he ever truly listened to a single word from any of his trainers.

Originally Posted by erics44

Originally Posted by El Kabong

You assume I'm saying...
"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that"


When I am really saying...
"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that"

They are the same

Actually no they aren't the first one suggests Frank Bruno was constantly hurt the second one says Frank Bruno was hurt in the same way constantly.

But you're a retard with no soul, so carry on

nope, think you need to reword it

Alright...

"I can't think of another fighter who was constantly hurt like that, you cunt"


...better?

that's the same, the only difference being that you called me a cunt