Thread: Razor Ruddock vs Deontay Wilder

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Ruddock is totally overrated , he lost every big fight he was involved in and his best wins are over Phil Jackson and the fossil Boneclutcher Smith.
Lost to Tyson twice / Lewis / Morrison he was totally overrated.

You are forgetting Razor nearly decapitating Dokes as one his best wins.

There is no shame in losing to Lewis or faded Tyson.

Dokes was shot by then , he didn't recover from drugs and the Holyfield war.
Ruddock never beat a top fighter in his prime.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Ruddock is totally overrated , he lost every big fight he was involved in and his best wins are over Phil Jackson and the fossil Boneclutcher Smith.
Lost to Tyson twice / Lewis / Morrison he was totally overrated.

You are forgetting Razor nearly decapitating Dokes as one his best wins.

There is no shame in losing to Lewis or faded Tyson.

Dokes was shot by then , he didn't recover from drugs and the Holyfield war.
Ruddock never beat a top fighter in his prime.

Dokes was get a load of kudos after the Holyfield fight, he was very highly rated.

Bonecrusher was only a couple years on from a career high, and would still have another decade in the sport post Razor. That was another very good Ruddock win. And as you mentioned he also beat the then highly rated prospect Phil Jackson too boot.

From late 89 to Lewis three years later, Ruddock would be a very warm favourite to 'smash' Wilder.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Wasn't Stiverne a good puncher? Wilder beat him fairly easy.

Not the Smash good, Stiverne has fast hands but not necessary a lot of power.

He would have also served himself better if he hadn't kept them in his pockets and actually stepped to the side the entire fight. Molina and Szpilka were lesser punchers and clearly bothered Wilder more.

I can't see any relation to a young Lewis and Wilder. Lewis may have had two left feet early on but his composure and poker face were off the charts. Everything Wilder does is readable and still think he has some aluminium whiskers there for the tapping.

Ruddock could probably take a Wilder punch and survive. Could Wilder take one of Ruddock's?
It's anybody's guess.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

. Could Wilder take one of Ruddock's

No

Tough one for me this as Ruddock was overrated & Wilder won't fight anyone that can hit him back.

Ruddock started out as a decent boxer & I'd pick this earlier version to beat Wilder, but he later became a one armed, one dimensional slugger who was drunk on his power & frankly, he was next to useless.

Wilder lives right up to his name normally by being crude & wild, but he did show against Stiverne that he can box a bit.

I'm inclined to pick Wilder, but I don't say that with full confidence.