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    I find him hard to listen to for a length of time, but he's obviously a good dude and I admire anyone who has risen up from bad depression and such on their own accord. It's natural to root for him now, but I don't give him much chance at all against any of the guys he's saying are avoiding him I hope he has people looking out for him if he gets a shot and it goes the way I'd expect. He obviously wears his heart on his sleeve and has a bit of a screw loose.

    I wouldn't fault him one bit if he spent the rest of his days following people around yelling like a maniac instead of boxing, it doesn't even matter who or what they do. He could stalk welterweights and accuse them of ducking him, who cares. Lets see him crash Donald Trumps inaugural speech, Trump the chump, he scared of the champ! I'd pay to see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I find him hard to listen to for a length of time, but he's obviously a good dude and I admire anyone who has risen up from bad depression and such on their own accord. It's natural to root for him now, but I don't give him much chance at all against any of the guys he's saying are avoiding him I hope he has people looking out for him if he gets a shot and it goes the way I'd expect. He obviously wears his heart on his sleeve and has a bit of a screw loose. I wouldn't fault him one bit if he spent the rest of his days following people around yelling like a maniac instead of boxing, it doesn't even matter who or what they do. He could stalk welterweights and accuse them of ducking him, who cares. Lets see him crash Donald Trumps inaugural speech, Trump the chump, he scared of the champ! I'd pay to see that.
    Lol He can be obnoxious with that damn chant, but he's a kind-hearted man.What a left hook and physique God blessed him with.I do believe he'd have a decent shot at beating David Haye. Maybe Wilder too for the first 2 rounds. Also reckon he could have beaten Charles Martin and Lucas Browne too. Honestly haven't watched much of Browne though.Outside of those guys, no he's most likely not beating Ortiz, Klistschko, or Joshua.

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    In hindsight Martin sure, I would have thought Browne as well but he did look quite improved in his last fight against Chagaev, maybe that's thanks to some "supplements". I'd love to see Briggs beat Wilder but I think more than likely he'd get hurt bad even if it was an early shoot out type of fight. Briggs truly hasn't fought a half decent opponent since Vitali and even before that, Liakovich is more or less the one good win in his career I like the guy and he's physically gifted for sure, but it's hard to know whether he's even all that dangerous nowadays.

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    Is that really two hours long Rogan sounds like Kermit the frog in the beginning.

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    The problem I have with people writing Briggs off is that he hasn't ever shown a massive decline in skill.
    He lost his last big fight to Vitali with an injured shoulder and stayed the distance.

    He has a punch, a chin and a heart.

    His record in the last 15 years is 24(23)-2-0 with 1 NC

    I agree some stay busy fights in there but we are assuming he hasn't got it because he hasn't been in with a name in a while.

    Let's remember
    1. He is the most decorated active HW.
    2. He has probably the best chin in the current HW div.
    3. He is up there are one of the hardest punchers in the HW division.


    Why does he not have a chance?

    Remember Foreman?
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    How is he the most decorated active HW? If you take the actual performances, his title wins aren't terribly impressive. Aside from those 2, ALL of his wins are stay busy type of opponents. Again I like him and would really want to see him win if he gets a big fight, just being realistic I'm not sure he'll have the output to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    How is he the most decorated active HW? If you take the actual performances, his title wins aren't terribly impressive. Aside from those 2, ALL of his wins are stay busy type of opponents. Again I like him and would really want to see him win if he gets a big fight, just being realistic I'm not sure he'll have the output to do it.
    PAG silver medalist (silver or bronze can't remember).
    2 time world champion in a much better era.

    He's cut from a different era and I think that'll work for him with people like Browne and some of the other shitty contenders today.
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    Holes in that though, as he easily could have lost to ancient Foreman and didn't do any better against him than Axel Schulz of all people just had prior, then the fight with Liakovich was dreadful until the very end and wasn't in that era or a better one. Shame Browne was taking PEDs or is a moron though, I think that was an interesting and even fight that would have told us where Briggs stands. The current landscape is actually as good as it's been in many years imo, fights just aren't being made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Holes in that though, as he easily could have lost to ancient Foreman and didn't do any better against him than Axel Schulz of all people just had prior, then the fight with Liakovich was dreadful until the very end and wasn't in that era or a better one. Shame Browne was taking PEDs or is a moron though, I think that was an interesting and even fight that would have told us where Briggs stands. The current landscape is actually as good as it's been in many years imo, fights just aren't being made.
    I feel it has improved but I feel that the fighters are all beatable with one punch.

    Not too many Solid chins in there and I feel Briggs can make an impact.

    Hard to talk about fighters records and stuff as all fighters pad their record to get to world title fights. Foreman didn't have too many names in his first 38 fights leading up to Fraizer.

    Peralta, Chavulo, Johnson about the only ones.


    I just wanna see Briggs against a Wilder, Haye, Browne or Ortiz because I think he can put in a decent showing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Holes in that though, as he easily could have lost to ancient Foreman and didn't do any better against him than Axel Schulz of all people just had prior, then the fight with Liakovich was dreadful until the very end and wasn't in that era or a better one. Shame Browne was taking PEDs or is a moron though, I think that was an interesting and even fight that would have told us where Briggs stands. The current landscape is actually as good as it's been in many years imo, fights just aren't being made.
    I feel it has improved but I feel that the fighters are all beatable with one punch.Not too many Solid chins in there and I feel Briggs can make an impact.Hard to talk about fighters records and stuff as all fighters pad their record to get to world title fights. Foreman didn't have too many names in his first 38 fights leading up to Fraizer.Peralta, Chavulo, Johnson about the only ones.I just wanna see Briggs against a Wilder, Haye, Browne or Ortiz because I think he can put in a decent showing.
    He can't do much worse than Malik Scott, right? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Holes in that though, as he easily could have lost to ancient Foreman and didn't do any better against him than Axel Schulz of all people just had prior, then the fight with Liakovich was dreadful until the very end and wasn't in that era or a better one. Shame Browne was taking PEDs or is a moron though, I think that was an interesting and even fight that would have told us where Briggs stands. The current landscape is actually as good as it's been in many years imo, fights just aren't being made.
    I feel it has improved but I feel that the fighters are all beatable with one punch.

    Not too many Solid chins in there and I feel Briggs can make an impact.

    Hard to talk about fighters records and stuff as all fighters pad their record to get to world title fights. Foreman didn't have too many names in his first 38 fights leading up to Fraizer.

    Peralta, Chavulo, Johnson about the only ones.


    I just wanna see Briggs against a Wilder, Haye, Browne or Ortiz because I think he can put in a decent showing.
    Nothing wrong with that, Browne is a lot less talented than the other 3 so that would have been a safer bet for sure. All fighters pad their record to some extent yeah, but I always had the impression Briggs had done more than he really has, giving Lennox an early scare might well be his best showing all things considered. I'm sure he under achieved and hope he does still have enough to go out with a good win, just being honest here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
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    Holes in that though, as he easily could have lost to ancient Foreman and didn't do any better against him than Axel Schulz of all people just had prior, then the fight with Liakovich was dreadful until the very end and wasn't in that era or a better one. Shame Browne was taking PEDs or is a moron though, I think that was an interesting and even fight that would have told us where Briggs stands. The current landscape is actually as good as it's been in many years imo, fights just aren't being made.
    I feel it has improved but I feel that the fighters are all beatable with one punch.Not too many Solid chins in there and I feel Briggs can make an impact.Hard to talk about fighters records and stuff as all fighters pad their record to get to world title fights. Foreman didn't have too many names in his first 38 fights leading up to Fraizer.Peralta, Chavulo, Johnson about the only ones.I just wanna see Briggs against a Wilder, Haye, Browne or Ortiz because I think he can put in a decent showing.
    Nothing wrong with that, Browne is a lot less talented than the other 3 so that would have been a safer bet for sure. All fighters pad their record to some extent yeah, but I always had the impression Briggs had done more than he really has, giving Lennox an early scare might well be his best showing all things considered. I'm sure he under achieved and hope he does still have enough to go out with a good win, just being honest here.
    A very fair appraisal the more I think about it.He hasn't done all that much for the talent and size he has.

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    Briggs was limited at his best and will be worse as he is older. The division is poor which is why Briggs is still relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
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    Holes in that though, as he easily could have lost to ancient Foreman and didn't do any better against him than Axel Schulz of all people just had prior, then the fight with Liakovich was dreadful until the very end and wasn't in that era or a better one. Shame Browne was taking PEDs or is a moron though, I think that was an interesting and even fight that would have told us where Briggs stands. The current landscape is actually as good as it's been in many years imo, fights just aren't being made.
    I feel it has improved but I feel that the fighters are all beatable with one punch.Not too many Solid chins in there and I feel Briggs can make an impact.Hard to talk about fighters records and stuff as all fighters pad their record to get to world title fights. Foreman didn't have too many names in his first 38 fights leading up to Fraizer.Peralta, Chavulo, Johnson about the only ones.I just wanna see Briggs against a Wilder, Haye, Browne or Ortiz because I think he can put in a decent showing.
    Nothing wrong with that, Browne is a lot less talented than the other 3 so that would have been a safer bet for sure. All fighters pad their record to some extent yeah, but I always had the impression Briggs had done more than he really has, giving Lennox an early scare might well be his best showing all things considered. I'm sure he under achieved and hope he does still have enough to go out with a good win, just being honest here.
    A very fair appraisal the more I think about it.He hasn't done all that much for the talent and size he has.
    In 24 years and 67 professional fights Briggs holds exactly 1 legitimate win over a top ten ranked heavyweight, in a fight he was losing. Watched him from pro debut and while always likable, in top form and very marketable he's been milking the point where imagination and celebrity has out run the substance for years now.

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