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    Default Let fighters juice....

    ... because the only ones that get hurt are the guys who try to stay clean. A whoop-ass is a whoop-ass. You still get a loss, if anything a No Contest. But it is the fight game and it is dangerous, so let us just assume you know what you want to do with your body. Also, let us assume that everyone is on some type of something. Also, let us just admit that they probably need something at that level if everyone else is expected to be on some type of stuff or not.
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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    This is stupid.

    Let them break the law, stupid

    I mean this in the nicest possible way you can say something is stupid. Like, not saying you’re stupid. Just that this idea is stupid.

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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    Errrr yeah but no, this just encourages guys to push it further, sure some kinds of doping in the right environment would be perfectly healthy (for the doper) , making it all legal would make it an arms race for who would push it the furthest and that leads to geezers really fucking themselves up and maybe even dropping dead.... but it is the standard hipster "shock" post from OP so I agree !

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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    Canelo did it ! Lets all do it!

    I think the issue with it is 1. there are different type of "juice" and 2. What about the fighters who dont want to risk their health? Do they just start their own no juice league?

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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    Silly idea and no one would want to watch these mutations.
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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    Can you really call it a sport then? Because it doesn't come down to skills, strategy or ability. Just who can afford the best steroids or whose mixing the best cocktails in their camp. Every fight would honestly be billed Conte vs Heredia or Ariza..

    Lets say you have someone like Chavez Jr. who was light on skill, but his pockets were padded and he had the backing of a major promoter that could juice him to the gills. Then you had someone who was a skilled middleweight but couldn't afford the juice. Would you feed this kid to the juicer so he could possible sustain a career ending injury because he couldn't hurt his opponent, couldn't outrun him because the juicer also has above average stamina, and even blocked punches jarred him to his bones.

    If you're suggesting every fighter have access to the same illegal PED's then not only are you enabling fighters to commit murder, you're also suggesting the country be part of it. From the govt who doesn't shut the whole thing down to the audience that pays to see it.... because whether you realize it or not, the end game is just a live, glorified snuff film. A dog fight essentially, where people wont settle for less than seeing the full potential of these PED's. Whether that's punching someone directly in the heart and watching them die from cardiac arrest or punching someone so hard on the button that you snap his neck or detach both retinas with a single swing causing blindness.

    Not to mention that these fighters are having kids which could be born with a whole range of birth defects and physical disorders.
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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    You've really outdone yourself here bud . Boxing's already dangerous enough with any number of individuals deciding your immediate fate. Refs, judges, corner men and an opponent who has a vested interest in hitting you more and hitting you harder. A favorite (what's the percentage of guys busted already being the favorite) looks to already have a stacked deck vs opponent without coming in juiced up. What next..just let fighters decide if they want to make a contracted weight limit or not but still allowing them to fight and reap rewards .

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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Silly idea and no one would want to watch these mutations.
    I'd watch a mutant league.

    PEDs for everyone would be taking it too far tho. At the moment tho it's not really a fair playing field either.

    Everyone needs to get on the same page, random year round testing, hair testing is supposed to be the best I hear. Bans for those that fail regardless of excuse.
    “Excess in moderation.”

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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    Let's face it: The controlled substance issues are out of control in boxing. Everyone who can gets by it. If you have moderate skill and your trainers see it, they would be wise to put you on a regimen.

    I know of no premier athlete that has not been on or is not on something or the other. We are deluding ourselves if we feel otherwise.

    This is not about Canelo, but the prevailing issues around the sport that simply cannot be enforced and will never truly go away.

    I would prefer a poor but moderately skilled fighter having a little juice, going up against a skilled fighter who is on a lot of juice and the money to mask his juicing, OVER A poor but moderately skilled fighter having NO JUICE going up against that skilled, juiced up fighter.

    While skills determine fights, we have to assume that juicing does little to determine the outcome- if that is the logical case, then why are guys juicing?

    Let them juice. Or start to delist some of these agents that they frequently use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    I know of no premier athlete that has not been on or is not on something or the other. We are deluding ourselves if we feel otherwise.


    Grossly unfair to those who've never been. 90% of something is still not 100%.
    The answer isn't let them juice.
    It's keep trying to clean up the sport.
    They do it in football, they can try it in boxing.

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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    Surprised that GGG is still going ahead with the fight, despite potential danger of an athlete who failed a drug test hitting him.
    He must be confident or really need the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanatogen View Post
    Surprised that GGG is still going ahead with the fight, despite potential danger of an athlete who failed a drug test hitting him.
    He must be confident or really need the money
    Probably both, he has the moral victory already, ran Canelo out of the ring and will not get a bigger purse fighting anyone else.
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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sanatogen View Post
    Surprised that GGG is still going ahead with the fight, despite potential danger of an athlete who failed a drug test hitting him.
    He must be confident or really need the money
    Probably both, he has the moral victory already, ran Canelo out of the ring and will not get a bigger purse fighting anyone else.
    Probably assumes he was on the juice last time so what is there to fear now.

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    Default Re: Let fighters juice....

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sanatogen View Post
    Surprised that GGG is still going ahead with the fight, despite potential danger of an athlete who failed a drug test hitting him.
    He must be confident or really need the money
    Probably both, he has the moral victory already, ran Canelo out of the ring and will not get a bigger purse fighting anyone else.
    Probably assumes he was on the juice last time so what is there to fear now.
    Yeah i agree with the last statement. It's too bad because Canelo is in a lose lose situation regardless.

    If he wins, its cuz he was on the juice. If he loses, it's because he didnt have the juice.

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