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Is Matthysse really the hardest one punch KO artist?

Hulk — Sun, 19 May 2013 22:15:50 GMT

Or is Randall Bailey?

I'm not so sure Matthysse hits harder than Bailey does with that right hand.

Yes, Lucas punches with great power with BOTH hands and is a better overall fighter by far. Cuts off the ring, feints, combos, defense, etc.

But, I'd like to see them both hit the PSI machine, because Bailey with that one right hand may still be the hardest one punch man in all of boxing.
His power is inhuman with that single punch.

Sugar Shane

DannyV297 — Sun, 19 May 2013 19:15:04 GMT

If you saw the Mosley-Cano fight last night you witnessed a person who actually turned back the clock like Marty McFly. Shane Mosley is an all out heart warrior. Boxing should take care of him for his efforts. I hope he never has to fight past 2013 though. For his own good. Hats of to an all time great. He fought his heart out.

Would Floyd Mayweather Jr. take a fight with Lucas Matthysse?

bzkfn — Sun, 19 May 2013 18:55:21 GMT

I am so intrigued now. Floyd would outbox him all day, but it seriously only takes one with this guy. He has dynamite in his fists and right now, I'd honestly love to see it. You think Floyd would take this one?

Lucas "The Machine" Matthysse VS Adrian "The Problem" Broner

Onix — Sun, 19 May 2013 16:44:39 GMT

A very likely chain of events could put together a super fight in the 140lb division. It could go something like this:

--Broner fights and beats Malignaggi in a hard fought fight in which he wins by knockout

--Matthysse goes in and obliterates the 140lb kingpin Danny Garcia in 7 rounds.

--These two meet in a clash at 140lbs on the May 2014 Mayweather card!

In reality I think that if these two were to meet it would be at 147lbs as Broner will more than likely control the negotiations and will look for the advantage. But assuming that it happens at 140lbs, how do you think this fight goes?

Broner would have 2 to 3 times the faster hands than Matthysse but Lucas has great timing and underrated abilities even after last nights destruction of Petersen. In terms of power I think they are probably around the same with Lucas having more concussive power and Broner having power generated from speed.

Broner is the more athletically gifted of the two however Matthysse carries alot of experiance and has been in with more top level competition at this point:

-Judah
-Alexander
-Petersen
-Humberto Soto
-Ajose Olusegun

I cannot pick a winner at 140lbs but at 147lbs I can see Broner being able to hurt Lucas being naturally bigger.

Who do you got?

Judah vs Matthysse I thought Judah Won

ICB — Sun, 19 May 2013 15:24:26 GMT

1 Judah
2 Judah
3 Judah
4 Judah
5 Judah
6 Lucas
7 Judah
8 Judah
9 Lucas
10 Lucas 10-8
11 Lucas
12 Lucas

114-113 Judah

I keep hearing how Matthyse was robbed so i had to rewatch this, and i thought Judah won with his jab in the early rounds. Matthyse dominated the 10th and the 11th and won a closish 12th round, but he didn't do much in the early rounds and Judah won with his boxing skills, jab, flashier punches.

I admit Alexander vs Matthyse was borderline robbery, and i think Matthyse was hard done by. But this was an extremely close fight that could of gone either way and Matthyse left it too late IMO.

UKs top 10 P4P

Silkeyjoe — Sun, 19 May 2013 14:19:23 GMT

1. Carl Froch
2. Kell Brook
3. Ricky Burns
4.Amir Khan
5. David Haye
6. Jaime McDonnel
7.Carl Frampton
8. Lee Selby
9. Matthew Macklin
10. Tyson Fury

Above is my list but found it very tough. Couldnt find a spot for Price, Barker, Murray. Probably missed someone obvious.

Garcia vs Mathysse

gest12645 — Sun, 19 May 2013 06:01:29 GMT

Who wins ? How ? Why?

Does Lucas Matthysse have ANY weaknesses?

TitoFan — Sun, 19 May 2013 02:47:35 GMT

How do you gameplan for this guy? He's got sick power in both hands. He's fearless. He's got a solid chin. He's got underrated boxing skills. He just took out Lamont Petersen like he was just taking out the trash on a Saturday night. And not dissing Petersen, either. Lamont is a solid professional who's been in there with the best. But that was downright scary.

So how do you gameplan for this guy?

Lebedev's eye

Beanflicker — Sun, 19 May 2013 00:55:02 GMT

Has there EVER in the history of boxing been an eye as fucked up as Lebedev's in that Guillermo Jones fight? Damn, son

Great article on floyd...(sorry)

imp — Sat, 18 May 2013 22:38:41 GMT

So much truth but the critics never want to know about it..

By Robert Elmore: There seems to be a lot of uneducated people on these blogs and websites about Floyd Mayweather Jr. Judging by the comments, most of the fans are new comers to boxing or they are just band wagoners looking to hate on Floyd because he is running boxing right now. There seems to be this myth that Floyd ducked certain fighters.

Let me say this. He can’t fight everybody, although his critics want him to fight everybody. I will provide you with facts and where you (the reader) can go and retrieve the info for yourselves. Before I get started I want to point out this fact. No matter how many sources I provide, the hate still won’t stop. The first myth is that he ducked Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto while all three were on Top Rank. Here’s where I got my facts from. Go to Google and type in “Mayweather turns down 8 million to fight Margarito”. It was written by Dan Rafael in 2006.

A match indeed was set to take place on pay per view on August 12th 2006. Bob Arum CEO of Top Rank said that Mayweather had no problem fighting Margarito for the 8 million. This is where the problem came in. Floyd wanted a guaranteed purse of 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Wait! Miguel Cotto? The same Miguel Cotto that had just beaten Carlos Maussa and was also ringside for the Floyd-Arturo Gatti fight and undefeated? Yes that Cotto.

Let’s continue. Arum was only willing to guarantee Floyd 7 million for those fights. That would be going backwards wouldn’t it? He was going to fight for 8 million then 7 against Cotto in a fight that would probably would have produced a good pay per view buys and brought good cash domestically? In addition to Floyd’s 10 million dollar request, he wanted 20 million to fight Oscar De La Hoya. Arum was not interested in doing the fight and here’s the response he gave.

“That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Arum also said this about the De La Hoya fight. “I don’t want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it’s not worth it,” he said. Oscar’s last fight on Top Rank was in 2004 against Bernard Hopkins and there was nasty feud between Arum and Oscar brewing that started back in February of 2000 when Oscar was trying to get out of his contract with Top Rank. (Google search Oscar De La Hoya; you’ll find this info under the section titled “De La Hoya vs Mosley 1).

But why wasn’t Arum willing to give Floyd the cash he was asking to fight Cotto, Hatton or De La Hoya? De La Hoya and Hatton I could understand, but Margarito and Cotto? This is what led Floyd to buy out his contract for 750,000 and take control of his own career.

Floyd would take on Carlos Baldomir for the lineal welter weight title and 8 million and 1 dollar. This was Floyd’s career best purse. So Arum told Floyd that the money wasn’t there for the De La Hoya fight? Here are some facts and where you can find this info. Floyd’s base purse was 10 million (http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11628.html)

The fight broke all pay per view records in buys, gate, and domestic revenue. Oscar took home 52 million big ones while Floyd nabbed 25 million (Wiki Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather). So not only did Floyd get his 20 mill he was asking for he got 5 million more. The ten million he asked for to fight Cotto, he got that in and a whole lot more. Mayweather’s base purse for the fight was a record breaking 32 million smackers. The fight was the second highest grossing non heavyweight fight in pay per view history with 1.5 million buys. Floyd banked more than 40 million for that fight. Now I’m going to show something and provide facts. That same 7 million Arum tried to give Floyd for his fight against Cotto, he gave to Manny Pacquiao in his 2009 fight with Cotto. Manny’s base purse was 7.4 million. He also made the same amount against De La Hoya (http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11628.html). These were given by the Nevada State Athletic Commission who must publicly display fighter’s purses.

Here are some more facts that probably won’t be researched either. Floyd called out a slew of fighters on his way to the top. He called Prince Nassem Hamed after the Diego Corrales fight. “Larry Merchant told Floyd, “Prince Nassem aint gonna fight you. After seeing this it aint gonna happen”. Floyd also said he hope he can fight the winner of the Casamayor-Freitas fight. He said after his victory over Jesus Chavez that he was looking forward to moving to 135 and fight Paul Spadafora, Jose Luis Castillo, and hopefully moving to 140 and fighting Kostya Tszyu. He also called out Juan Lazcano and Stevie Johnston. After his fight with Henry Bruseles at 140, Floyd once again called out Kostya Tszyu, he also added Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya to the list. Here is the info on Floyd calling out these fighters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhIB8be86w4).

Now neither Lazcano, Cassamayor, Freutes, Tszyu, or Johnston responded to Floyd’s challenge. Now I have given much info to support my fact. However, as I have said before, most critics will not….will not…will not look this stuff up because the truth will hurt a lot of feelings;especially the facts about Floyd asking to fight Cotto. I’ve done my part. Do yours. Research. If anyone finds any hard facts about your claims, give them to me and I’ll research them.

It Would be the greatest entrance ever it would change boxing

heavyweightcp — Sat, 18 May 2013 20:47:45 GMT

What if in a major title fight a fighter drives a car to ring with his team in the back trainer in the front seat.

Playing this

would blow my mind

Prizefighter / Purdy v Alexander Saturday fight night thread.

Vendettos — Sat, 18 May 2013 20:10:14 GMT

Purdy 8oz over the limit. The fight will commence but not for the title.

8oz is not a lot, I'm sure I've shit bigger but Barry Hearns and Dick Schaefer said he shouldn't lose anymore weight so as not to be too weak.

Looking forward to it.

Polish card - Zimnoch-McCall

TigerFan — Sat, 18 May 2013 19:30:52 GMT

Anybody watching?

There's a couple of fights left before Zimnoch-McCall. Oliver's son Elijah 11-2-1 (10) fights Marcin Rekowski 8-0 (7).

1995 to 2005- Light to Super Welterweight: Who's the best?

ykdadamaja — Sat, 18 May 2013 16:14:51 GMT

Who would you consider the best pfp of that era:

During that era we had, and in no particular order:
1.Oscar De La Hoya
2. Felix Trinidad
3. Shane Mosley
4. Fernando Vargas
5. Vernon Forrest
6. Kostya Tsyzu
7. Ricardo Mayorga
8. Pernell Whitaker
9. Julio Cesar Chavez

How would you rank them, during that era? Bearing in mind at that time JCC was on the downside of his career, as well as Whitaker- even though they all had belts up to 96/97.

I give, surprisingly, Ricardo Mayorga the most props for fighting every prime contender on this list. He lost to Mosley twice and lost to De La Hoya and Trinidad once (both in the later part after the time frame), but beat Forrest and Vargas easily at their peak too.

It's really hard to rate them... seriously.

Does anybody believe this will be the case with Khan?

Tam Seddon — Sat, 18 May 2013 15:34:01 GMT

Khan: I�ll Be Stronger, My Chin More Durable at 147 - Boxing News

Will he be better at 147 or will he get steamrolled easier?