Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
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Originally Posted by
Master
How poor was Cleverly and good Badu Jack?
Nathan was very limited and was one dimension whereas Jack looked sharp and effective standing up to Cleverly dominating every round and stopping the champ with surprising ease.
i expected Nathan to get a beating but he was even worse than I thought he'd be.
pretty shameful display from a defending world champ especially against a guy in his first fight at the weight. I suspected that Nathan wouldn't get the tactics right going in. Recently he's had a tendency of leading with his face trying to tough it out from the start. If it didn't work with a washed up fonfara why would he think it would work here.
That hunched style doesn't work for him and jack took full advantage looking better in every fight we see him.
relieved Nathan has packed in it in now. That was painful to watch as the Kovalev loss. Badou is a nice addition to the already packed 175 division
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
Cleverley said he would retire if he lost, let's see if he keeps his word.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
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Originally Posted by
Master
Cleverley said he would retire if he lost, let's see if he keeps his word.
Hes announced his retirement and even if he did go on, there's no fights out there for him. He'd have to go back down to domestic level but I wouldn't even fancy his chances vs that Haye wannabe on boxnation Antony yarde
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
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Originally Posted by
GAME
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Originally Posted by
Master
Cleverley said he would retire if he lost, let's see if he keeps his word.
Hes announced his retirement and even if he did go on, there's no fights out there for him. He'd have to go back down to domestic level but I wouldn't even fancy his chances vs that Haye wannabe on boxnation Antony yarde
Actually that would be a good crossroads fight for Yarde.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
GAME
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Originally Posted by
Master
Cleverley said he would retire if he lost, let's see if he keeps his word.
Hes announced his retirement and even if he did go on, there's no fights out there for him. He'd have to go back down to domestic level but I wouldn't even fancy his chances vs that Haye wannabe on boxnation Antony yarde
Actually that would be a good crossroads fight for Yarde.
What do you have against Cleverly?
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
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Originally Posted by
powerpuncher
Cleverly is just not that good. He is decent but I believe he has seen better days. Jack isn't great by any means, but he is a solid fighter with solid skills. I don't know if there will be a stoppage, but Jack should win this one pretty easily
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Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
Even though Cleverly is a shadow, this current version of Jack would have battered him at any time regardless. It's incredible watching Jack improve so greatly, become so much faster, stronger and sharper as he gets older. They've got some good training "methods" in the Mayweather gym.
Cleverly was winded in the opening minute(s) which totally drained his confidence and output.
Jack-Kovalev would be some punchup.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
Kovalev took nathan apart and he will never ever be the same.
Ward needs to stop wasting time and fight Stevenson.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
GAME
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Originally Posted by
Master
Cleverley said he would retire if he lost, let's see if he keeps his word.
Hes announced his retirement and even if he did go on, there's no fights out there for him. He'd have to go back down to domestic level but I wouldn't even fancy his chances vs that Haye wannabe on boxnation Antony yarde
Actually that would be a good crossroads fight for Yarde.
So Cleverley should retire, fair enough, "let's see if he does."
But wait, it's ok to carry on if he becomes a stepping stone and a punchbag for a young up and coming guy to put on his CV.
Fucking priceless!!!👋
For Yarde it would be a good fight, for Cleverly it would be a bad move.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
Yarde hasn't fought at British title level yet let alone European or World, he hasn't been past four rounds. He (Warren) swerved out of purse bids to face Hosea Burton (who had a competitve fight with Buglioni before getting chinned), which is alarming.
If you think he can beat Clev (even this semi-shot version) then you must think he can compete against all the fringe world-class prospects.
Beterbiev?
Gvozdyk?
Bivol?
Just look at who they've faced compared to Yarde with almost identical pro experience (for what it's worth i'd expect all three of them to murder Clev).
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Even though Cleverly is a shadow, this current version of Jack would have battered him at any time regardless. It's incredible watching Jack improve so greatly, become so much faster, stronger and sharper as he gets older. They've got some good training "methods" in the Mayweather gym.
Cleverly was winded in the opening minute(s) which totally drained his confidence and output.
Jack-Kovalev would be some punchup.
Did you go from American judges would screw him to PEDs to taunt me or are you just incapable of saying X beat Ys arse?
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
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Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Even though Cleverly is a shadow, this current version of Jack would have battered him at any time regardless. It's incredible watching Jack improve so greatly, become so much faster, stronger and sharper as he gets older. They've got some good training "methods" in the Mayweather gym.
Cleverly was winded in the opening minute(s) which totally drained his confidence and output.
Jack-Kovalev would be some punchup.
Did you go from American judges would screw him to PEDs to taunt me or are you just incapable of saying X beat Ys arse?
I never said anything about "American judges" screwing Clev, you have me mixed up with someone else mate :)
And i'm certainly not taunting you. Why? No disrespect but why would I possibly have you on my mind? There are loads of regular posters on this forum offering a variety of opinions on a smorgasbord of topics, there's been over a dozen posters partake in this very thread alone. I would have named or quoted you if directly addressing something you've said.
PEDs? I've seen/heard people that apparently "know" about these things accuse him. I'd rather believe his improvement is down to good old hard work and dedication though, innocent until proven guilty.
Re: Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).
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palmerq
A weird fight for Stevenson. I feel like it really isn't a cash out fight which is weird. Stevenson has been fighting bums for the past however many years and I assumed that he would take a big fight to cash out like with Kovalev or Ward. Jack is a very loseable fight. I doubt Stevenson takes it.