Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
Ward should box if he wants to win this match without getting knocked out. He has the speed and Abraham needs to get a wild dog transplant for that evening to cast a shadow on Ward's chances of winning. I have a feeling it's either a hard fight for them or a sleeping pill for us fans.
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
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Mars_ax
Now that this fight is back on, it's worth having a thread about it, any Abe fans out there? :cool:
May 14
At Carson, Calif. (Showtime): Super Six World Boxing Classic semifinals, Andre Ward vs. Arthur Abraham, 12 rounds, for Ward's WBA super middleweight title; Cristobal Arreola vs. Nagy Aguilera, 10 rounds, heavyweights.
Ward figures to win an ugly decision, but I would love for Abraham to rock the "SOG's" world and pull off the upset.
Thoughts?
When you are a turtle or use that kind of D, you have to throw like Winky. I suspect this fight will resemble very much what the Dirrell scrap looked like. Abrahams biggest problem is his inactivity. He seems to hold off and then try to accomplish the task in the last couple of rounds. You cant do that at this level.
Their is a chance I suppose that Abe could catch him diving in head first ala the Kessler fight but I would not bank on it and neither should his camp. Ward switch hits on the fly better then anyone since Hagler and with that kind of hand speed, Abes a punching bag.
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
That's right a punching bag you can hit all night, only Abraham bites back. Give all my love the son of god never pays me back... may as well go to my alcoholics anonymous class. We are all little sog's an it is a great time to be thankful that some of us don't attend AA. Can't wait for the fight.
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
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Jacktowt
That's right a punching bag you can hit all night, only Abraham bites back. Give all my love the son of god never pays me back... may as well go to my alcoholics anonymous class. We are all little sog's an it is a great time to be thankful that some of us don't attend AA. Can't wait for the fight.
He didn't do much biting back against Froch though did he?
I think it'll be relatively comfortable for Ward. He won't let Abraham get set to throw his big power punches and should be able to dominate with his speed and movement. With Abraham's power you can't count him out completely, but I was one of those that thought he'd beat Froch because of his power and he never really threw that many bombs. He was never set to throw them and couldn't deal with Froch's jab and movement. I can see something similar happening here
I'd imagine it'll be like watching Ward working the heavy bag for 12 rounds, with Abraham mounting some occasional offense. I want Ward to win because there's just no point at all in seeing Froch-Abraham II in the final if Froch gets by Johnson. I'd much rather see Froch-Ward as I think the SuperSix has at least shown those 2 to be the best fighters in the competition so it's only natural that they should meet in the final. Really I don't see much point in the semi finals even taking place at all, it should have just been a Froch-Ward final to begin with.
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
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Cressa121
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Jacktowt
That's right a punching bag you can hit all night, only Abraham bites back. Give all my love the son of god never pays me back... may as well go to my alcoholics anonymous class. We are all little sog's an it is a great time to be thankful that some of us don't attend AA. Can't wait for the fight.
He didn't do much biting back against Froch though did he?
I think it'll be relatively comfortable for Ward. He won't let Abraham get set to throw his big power punches and should be able to dominate with his speed and movement. With Abraham's power you can't count him out completely, but I was one of those that thought he'd beat Froch because of his power and he never really threw that many bombs. He was never set to throw them and couldn't deal with Froch's jab and movement. I can see something similar happening here
I'd imagine it'll be like watching Ward working the heavy bag for 12 rounds, with Abraham mounting some occasional offense. I want Ward to win because there's just no point at all in seeing Froch-Abraham II in the final if Froch gets by Johnson.
I'd much rather see Froch-Ward as I think the SuperSix has at least shown those 2 to be the best fighters in the competition so it's only natural that they should meet in the final. Really I don't see much point in the semi finals even taking place at all, it should have just been a Froch-Ward final to begin with.
I agree Froch-Ward would be the natural or most logical ending to the SS- tourney, but it wouldn't break my heart to see the SOG lose to Abraham, and if it ended up being Froch-Abe in the final, that's just the way it goes.
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
I just can't see a way Abraham competes here. Ward is just too sound.
But I also can't see Ward really hurting King Arthur.
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
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Cressa121
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Originally Posted by
Jacktowt
That's right a punching bag you can hit all night, only Abraham bites back. Give all my love the son of god never pays me back... may as well go to my alcoholics anonymous class. We are all little sog's an it is a great time to be thankful that some of us don't attend AA. Can't wait for the fight.
He didn't do much biting back against Froch though did he?
I think it'll be relatively comfortable for Ward. He won't let Abraham get set to throw his big power punches and should be able to dominate with his speed and movement. With Abraham's power you can't count him out completely, but I was one of those that thought he'd beat Froch because of his power and he never really threw that many bombs. He was never set to throw them and couldn't deal with Froch's jab and movement. I can see something similar happening here
I'd imagine it'll be like watching Ward working the heavy bag for 12 rounds, with Abraham mounting some occasional offense. I want Ward to win because there's just no point at all in seeing Froch-Abraham II in the final if Froch gets by Johnson. I'd much rather see Froch-Ward as I think the SuperSix has at least shown those 2 to be the best fighters in the competition so it's only natural that they should meet in the final. Really I don't see much point in the semi finals even taking place at all, it should have just been a Froch-Ward final to begin with.
I kinda expect the bold as well. Froch Ward would be a wonderful fight. More fun if it takes place in the UK with those looney fans!
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
Course ward and froch can box. Arthur is more of a punisher. Go Abraham
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Jacktowt
Course ward and froch can box. Arthur is more of a punisher. Go Abraham
Yea he punishes us with boring fights. Stop covering up and throw some punches already!!
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
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marbleheadmaui
I just can't see a way Abraham competes here. Ward is just too sound.
But I also can't see Ward really hurting King Arthur.
Ward will hammer AA until the ref stops it in the later rounds or his corner throws the towel in because AA isn't fighting back. There is more than one way to stop somebody.
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
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Rantcatrat
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marbleheadmaui
I just can't see a way Abraham competes here. Ward is just too sound.
But I also can't see Ward really hurting King Arthur.
Ward will hammer AA until the ref stops it in the later rounds or his corner throws the towel in because AA isn't fighting back. There is more than one way to stop somebody.
True. I think Ward is pretty smart though and if he's comfortably up 8-1 or something, is he the kind of guy who takes the risk of letting it all hang out to convince the ref to stop it? I don't think so. I think he glides the rest of the way.
We'll see.
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Rantcatrat
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marbleheadmaui
I just can't see a way Abraham competes here. Ward is just too sound.
But I also can't see Ward really hurting King Arthur.
Ward will hammer AA until the ref stops it in the later rounds or his corner throws the towel in because AA isn't fighting back. There is more than one way to stop somebody.
I can see the possibility of Ward dominating, but AA has a decent beard, and I doubt that his corner will stop it unless he's taking a beating or is out on his feet..
Nobody seems to be giving AA any shot at winning, I think it would be funny as hell if Ward underestimates AA, and gets his ass handed to him. It probably won't happen just sayin' an upset would be sweet.
Re: Abraham vs. Ward - Saturday - May 14th
upset written all over it