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Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Let's get ready to rumble! The action starts on HBO Saturday @ 10:00 PM EST here in the States.
July 23
At Las Vegas (HBO): Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah, 12 rounds, WBA/IBF junior welterweight unification.
http://www.hbo.com/boxing/#/boxing/f...-fletcher.html
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...si1zIiG8F-ONJQ
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Going to be good. Khan going to win though. I really hope Judah can pull off the upset. Call me spoiled but why can't hbo have fights every weekend
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
This might be a surprisingly good scrap, like you say Kevin, Khan figures to win, but maybe Zab has one good fight left in him. Neither one of these Pugs has the greatest chin, so anything can happen.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Vegas? Damnit! Another eye dropping late night for me :(
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Wow at these odds Judah any means seems worth a small stack.
Khan = 1/4 = -400
Judah = 4/1 = +400
Draw = 48/1 = +4800
Khan KO, TKO, DQ = 1 = +100
Khan UD, SD, MD = 7/4 = +175
Judah KO, TKO, DQ = 9/2 = +450
Judah UD, SD, MD = 9/1 = +900
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
Wow at these odds Judah any means seems worth a small stack.
Khan = 1/4 = -400
Judah = 4/1 = +400
Draw = 48/1 = +4800
Khan KO, TKO, DQ = 1 = +100
Khan UD, SD, MD = 7/4 = +175
Judah KO, TKO, DQ = 9/2 = +450
Judah UD, SD, MD = 9/1 = +900
I agree 100%.
Khan is the most likely winner but NO WAY is Judah a 4/1 shot. The odds are too wide. I believe a fighter with Judah's explosive speed/punch combo is far more dangerous to Khan than a more powerful, tougher but predictable fighter like Maidana.
Win or lose - Judah is a great bet IMO.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
Wow at these odds Judah any means seems worth a small stack.
Khan = 1/4 = -400
Judah = 4/1 = +400
Draw = 48/1 = +4800
Khan KO, TKO, DQ = 1 = +100
Khan UD, SD, MD = 7/4 = +175
Judah KO, TKO, DQ = 9/2 = +450
Judah UD, SD, MD = 9/1 = +900
I agree 100%.
Khan is the most likely winner but NO WAY is Judah a 4/1 shot. The odds are too wide. I believe a fighter with Judah's explosive speed/punch combo is far more dangerous to Khan than a more powerful, tougher but predictable fighter like Maidana.
Win or lose - Judah is a great bet IMO.
Yeah Judah punches straight and fast, Khan definitely looks the likely winner, but hype (Khan is the second coming vs. Judah's chicken dance) is getting in the way of how these guys look to match up in reality. These are odds even Mars_Ax would jump on.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
Wow at these odds Judah any means seems worth a small stack.
Khan = 1/4 = -400
Judah = 4/1 = +400
Draw = 48/1 = +4800
Khan KO, TKO, DQ = 1 = +100
Khan UD, SD, MD = 7/4 = +175
Judah KO, TKO, DQ = 9/2 = +450
Judah UD, SD, MD = 9/1 = +900
If I was a betting man, which I am not, I would be tempted to put a couple bucks down on Judah by TKO with those odds.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Is there a televised undercard?
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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killersheep
Is there a televised undercard?
This is the main undercard fight, which HBO won't bother showing:
Peter Quillin vs. Jason LeHoullier, 10 rounds, middleweights.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
I want Judah to win for the same reasons you all do but reading that and thinking on it more, it would probably be better for the sport with newer money if Kahn wins, so if its close expect him to.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
Andre
I want Judah to win for the same reasons you all do but reading that and thinking on it more, it would probably be better for the sport with newer money if Kahn wins, so if its close expect him to.
Yeah, but you know what happens when Zab loses a close fight, he pitches a shit fit, if Khan wins, I hope it's by KO/TKO. As for newer money, upsets are good for boxing, if Zab wins, it would set up a rematch, which can't be all bad.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Andre
I want Judah to win for the same reasons you all do but reading that and thinking on it more, it would probably be better for the sport with newer money if Kahn wins, so if its close expect him to.
Yeah, but you know what happens when Zab loses a close fight, he pitches a shit fit, if Khan wins, I hope it's by KO/TKO. As for newer money,
upsets are good for boxing, if Zab wins, it would set up a rematch, which can't be all bad.
Yeah It will generate more but I dont know for how long though, If Kahn wins well his fan base builds in two or more countries just on their home pride; if Kahn losses I dont think those fans will build in numbers or hang around for long.Only real boxing fans stay for the long run.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
Andre
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Andre
I want Judah to win for the same reasons you all do but reading that and thinking on it more, it would probably be better for the sport with newer money if Kahn wins, so if its close expect him to.
Yeah, but you know what happens when Zab loses a close fight, he pitches a shit fit, if Khan wins, I hope it's by KO/TKO. As for newer money,
upsets are good for boxing, if Zab wins, it would set up a rematch, which can't be all bad.
Yeah It will generate more but I dont know for how long though, If Kahn wins well his fan base builds in two or more countries just on their home pride; i
f Kahn losses I dont think those fans will build in numbers or hang around for long.Only real boxing fans stay for the long run.
For whatever reason, Khan seems to have as many "haters" as he does fans, you even see that among Brits, and on this forum. You're probably right however, he does have a fairly substantial fan base, but a loss to Zab would put a big dent in it.
One thing that gets me about Khan, his goal is to eventually get a fight with Mayweather, and even if he 'did' manage to get that far, Mayweather would absolutely demolish his sorry ass.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Andre
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Andre
I want Judah to win for the same reasons you all do but reading that and thinking on it more, it would probably be better for the sport with newer money if Kahn wins, so if its close expect him to.
Yeah, but you know what happens when Zab loses a close fight, he pitches a shit fit, if Khan wins, I hope it's by KO/TKO. As for newer money,
upsets are good for boxing, if Zab wins, it would set up a rematch, which can't be all bad.
Yeah It will generate more but I dont know for how long though, If Kahn wins well his fan base builds in two or more countries just on their home pride; i
f Kahn losses I dont think those fans will build in numbers or hang around for long.Only real boxing fans stay for the long run.
For whatever reason, Khan seems to have as many "haters" as he does fans, you even see that among Brits, and on this forum. You're probably right however, he does have a fairly substantial fan base, but a loss to Zab would put a big dent in it.
One thing that gets me about Khan, his goal is to eventually get a fight with Mayweather, and even if he 'did' manage to get that far, Mayweather would absolutely demolish his sorry ass.
I don't know about that. By the time Khan is ready to fight Mayweather, Floyd will be on the wrong side of 35 - his skills have to start diminishing at some point and I could see Khan's speed giving an old Mayweather all kinds of trouble.
That being said, I'd pick even a 60% Mayweather to beat Khan unless Khan shows some incredibly development over the next two years.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
The thing that I like about this fight is that both guys are susceptible to duress and repeatedly go to the well... or at least get their wells tapped so I think this fight will be at it's most dramatic through the later rounds because in this fight, once those initial energy levels start to wear down and for whatever reason the anxiety creeps in, as it can do for both fighters, one or both guy's have to make a relatively quick decision to commit to something new, or hope that they have seen something that they can use further down the road because surly both guys already know that if they don't, they will be unable to last the course.
Although visually, I'm not exactly enamoured by Judah's new ethos of seemingly starting as he mean's to go on, it kinda signifies that maybe tactically, he has turned a corner. This gives me reason to say that he is the more mature and experienced fighter without sounding too generic, simply because he has NEVER been mature!
Khan is much younger and maybe tempted to wager his youth against Judah's new found patience and so I have a feeling this will be part of his undoing. Because I think it will be Judah who will be the one having a look, taking it all in and keeping the answers in mind.
I'm going with Judah on this one... With Khan out on his feet.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Andre
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Andre
I want Judah to win for the same reasons you all do but reading that and thinking on it more, it would probably be better for the sport with newer money if Kahn wins, so if its close expect him to.
Yeah, but you know what happens when Zab loses a close fight, he pitches a shit fit, if Khan wins, I hope it's by KO/TKO. As for newer money,
upsets are good for boxing, if Zab wins, it would set up a rematch, which can't be all bad.
Yeah It will generate more but I dont know for how long though, If Kahn wins well his fan base builds in two or more countries just on their home pride; i
f Kahn losses I dont think those fans will build in numbers or hang around for long.Only real boxing fans stay for the long run.
For whatever reason, Khan seems to have as many "haters" as he does fans, you even see that among Brits, and on this forum. You're probably right however, he does have a fairly substantial fan base, but a loss to Zab would put a big dent in it.
One thing that gets me about Khan, his goal is to eventually get a fight with Mayweather, and even if he 'did' manage to get that far, Mayweather would absolutely demolish his sorry ass.
I don't know about that. By the time Khan is ready to fight Mayweather, Floyd will be on the wrong side of 35 - his skills have to start diminishing at some point and I could see Khan's speed giving an old Mayweather all kinds of trouble.
That being said, I'd pick even a 60% Mayweather to beat Khan unless Khan shows some incredibly development over the next two years.
I'm just not sold on Khan, and I don't believe he's even the 2nd or maybe even the 3rd best Jr. Welterweight, much less going up and fighting a guy like Mayweather at WW.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Andre
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Andre
I want Judah to win for the same reasons you all do but reading that and thinking on it more, it would probably be better for the sport with newer money if Kahn wins, so if its close expect him to.
Yeah, but you know what happens when Zab loses a close fight, he pitches a shit fit, if Khan wins, I hope it's by KO/TKO. As for newer money,
upsets are good for boxing, if Zab wins, it would set up a rematch, which can't be all bad.
Yeah It will generate more but I dont know for how long though, If Kahn wins well his fan base builds in two or more countries just on their home pride; i
f Kahn losses I dont think those fans will build in numbers or hang around for long.Only real boxing fans stay for the long run.
For whatever reason, Khan seems to have as many "haters" as he does fans, you even see that among Brits, and on this forum. You're probably right however, he does have a fairly substantial fan base, but a loss to Zab would put a big dent in it.
One thing that gets me about Khan, his goal is to eventually get a fight with Mayweather, and even if he 'did' manage to get that far, Mayweather would absolutely demolish his sorry ass.
I don't know about that. By the time Khan is ready to fight Mayweather, Floyd will be on the wrong side of 35 - his skills have to start diminishing at some point and I could see Khan's speed giving an old Mayweather all kinds of trouble.
That being said, I'd pick even a 60% Mayweather to beat Khan unless Khan shows some incredibly development over the next two years.
I'm just not sold on Khan, and I don't believe he's even the 2nd or maybe even the 3rd best Jr. Welterweight, much less going up and fighting a guy like Mayweather at WW.
The only people I see having a shot at beating Khan at LWW are Alexander and Matthsse. I think Alexander would be able to match his speed and boxing ability, and Matthsse, while somewhat plodding, seems to have the type of timing and power it would take to hurt Khan.
I'm not sold on Khan moving up to 147 and challenging the elite of that division either, I was just saying that by the time he would be matched up against Mayweather, PBF would be a lot older than he is now.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Imagine if this went like Kostya Judah but in reverse and Kahn does the wobbly chicken and is hugged by the ref ;D.
Missy would be ecstatic.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
Andre
Imagine if this went like Kostya Judah but in reverse and Kahn does the wobbly chicken and is hugged by the ref ;D.
Missy would be ecstatic.
Yes she would be, because according to her: "Khan is cunt". :-X
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
I can't believe Primetime can justify charging £15 for this. The undercard is horrendous. No wonder Sky have fucked off Amir Khan thinking he doesn't need an undercard to sell fights. Best thing they ever done was getting rid of him to make room for the Britain's P4P king, Carl Froch.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Has anyone in England tried to book this through their remote? If so have they had any problems?
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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GAME
Has anyone in England tried to book this through their remote? If so have they had any problems?
Try doing it on primetime website if u are having problems.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Alright folks, get your favorite beverage iced up, I believe i'll have me a couple of guinness stout extras for this one. :alcoholic:
At Las Vegas (HBO): Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah, 12 rounds, WBA/IBF junior welterweight unification.
The action starts on HBO in about 2 1/2 hours, or @ 10:00 PM EST here in North America, so perhaps 3:00 AM in the UK?
This is Zab's last gasp at the bigtime, and Khan will be trying to make a statement, it could be a damn good fight!
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Khan by blowout. You heard it here folks. It's Zab we're talking about here.
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Not sure which was dumber kirland buying a gun from anyone other than one of his homies or ever even considering he didn't new Ann Wolfe . Don't see khan having too many probs tonight . He'll probably losse the first three then stop Judah late
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Gary Russell Jr has rapid hands. Lovely body work. very composed. maybe lacking power?
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Wooo-HOOO!
NO tape delay here on Maui!
Watch the fight and then go to the beach for sunset! Not too shabby!
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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ICB
Anyone got a link ?
me too?
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
Wooo-HOOO!
NO tape delay here on Maui!
Watch the fight and then go to the beach for sunset! Not too shabby!
Sounds like a plan Marble, I was wondering if you had a tape delay there, good deal.
HBO starts in about 10 minutes, and the fight will start about 10-15 minutes after that.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
Wooo-HOOO!
NO tape delay here on Maui!
Watch the fight and then go to the beach for sunset! Not too shabby!
Sounds like a plan Marble, I was wondering if you had a tape delay there, good deal.
HBO starts in about 10 minutes, and the fight will start about 10-15 minutes after that.
Is the HBO show just the khan judah fight no undercard?
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Where's the links ? where's Diane when you need her :-\
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
Wooo-HOOO!
NO tape delay here on Maui!
Watch the fight and then go to the beach for sunset! Not too shabby!
Sounds like a plan Marble, I was wondering if you had a tape delay there, good deal.
HBO starts in about 10 minutes, and the fight will start about 10-15 minutes after that.
Is the HBO show just the khan judah fight no undercard?
Right, no undercard. :)
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
Wooo-HOOO!
NO tape delay here on Maui!
Watch the fight and then go to the beach for sunset! Not too shabby!
Sounds like a plan Marble, I was wondering if you had a tape delay there, good deal.
HBO starts in about 10 minutes, and the fight will start about 10-15 minutes after that.
Is the HBO show just the khan judah fight no undercard?
My guess is yes.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
Quote:
Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
Wooo-HOOO!
NO tape delay here on Maui!
Watch the fight and then go to the beach for sunset! Not too shabby!
Sounds like a plan Marble, I was wondering if you had a tape delay there, good deal.
HBO starts in about 10 minutes, and the fight will start about 10-15 minutes after that.
Is the HBO show just the khan judah fight no undercard?
Right, no undercard. :)
Ah, i've been watching for 2 hours, must be the only one :cool:
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Linkee linkee
.....would be somewhere hidden perhaps.
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Re: Amir Khan vs. Zab Judah fight thread - for July 23rd
Goldenboy really pushing for Khan vs Morales it seems.
Far too much talk about being p4p on Primetime.