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Who knows if this will actually take place but it's good to see this might happen. We have been kicking the North Korea can down the road since the fifties. This has been the closest I've heard of a meeting actually having a possibility of happening. A war with NK would crush South Korea and kill millions. Sure this could just be buying time but let's give best Korea a chance
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Tell the real truth, you are really concerned and worried about Miles. If he was not there you would not care.
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Tell the real truth, you are really concerned and worried about Miles. If he was not there you would not care.
I do love miles but beanz is playing hard to get so I'm interested
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I think it will be a lovely meeting. They will get along well. Hopefully an end to this posturing.
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I think they should have a sumo wrestle and the winner gets Korea.
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It really is historic. The US has been kicking the Best Korea can down the road since the fifties. We have a prez willing to meet him. This could be a total blowoff but the fact it may happen is something new. According to defectors like in Best Korea is as bad if not worse than what the media reports. If life for those people can be approved and we can get of this war footing I think it will be a tremendous aceivment. Worse that can happen is it will stay the same or get worse
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Kim Jong Un is going to pee his pants....."OMG the cool kid is coming to my table! OMG OMG!!!!"
Donald Trump might be a nightmare for the media but I'll be damned if he doesn't just get shit done or at the very least attempt to.
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I don't know if I'd give that frog faced despot the satisfaction and stage. I like spontaneity but Trump has essentially showed his hand and lets be honest both of these guys change their minds with the same frequency that they change their socks. I'd have more faith if the President had announced this directly or in unison with South Korean reps. Talking beats pissing in the wind and both talking about blowing stuff up, but all it is at the moment is a mic drop for the news cycle and a move on, wait and see.
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NK have spent seventy years trying to get an American prez to meet with them. The world's greatest negotitator agreed to a meeting in a second. But now he's backing off, nobody knows, let's see what he thinks tomorrow or next week. Now he's booted Tillerson out the Iran agreement will probably get ripped up right around the time this supposed summit is supposed to happen. So what confidence would NK have that America would ever stick to an agreement? Also, too, Gaddaffi lasted eight years after a similar WMD agreement with America before being overthrown by American-backed rebels.
So total incoherent nonsense foreign policy to go with the equivalent trade and domestic/economic stuff. Trump is sacking all the adults/sane people in the administration and replacing them with crazy yes men. The downward spiral is going to accelerate.
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Kirkland Laing
NK have spent seventy years trying to get an American prez to meet with them. The world's greatest negotitator agreed to a meeting in a second. But now he's backing off, nobody knows, let's see what he thinks tomorrow or next week. Now he's booted Tillerson out the Iran agreement will probably get ripped up right around the time this supposed summit is supposed to happen. So what confidence would NK have that America would ever stick to an agreement? Also, too, Gaddaffi lasted eight years after a similar WMD agreement with America before being overthrown by American-backed rebels.
So total incoherent nonsense foreign policy to go with the equivalent trade and domestic/economic stuff. Trump is sacking all the adults/sane people in the administration and replacing them with crazy yes men. The downward spiral is going to accelerate.
What a load of B.S from the council estates.
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Kirkland Laing
NK have spent seventy years trying to get an American prez to meet with them. The world's greatest negotitator agreed to a meeting in a second. But now he's backing off, nobody knows, let's see what he thinks tomorrow or next week. Now he's booted Tillerson out the Iran agreement will probably get ripped up right around the time this supposed summit is supposed to happen. So what confidence would NK have that America would ever stick to an agreement? Also, too, Gaddaffi lasted eight years after a similar WMD agreement with America before being overthrown by American-backed rebels.
So total incoherent nonsense foreign policy to go with the equivalent trade and domestic/economic stuff. Trump is sacking all the adults/sane people in the administration and replacing them with crazy yes men. The downward spiral is going to accelerate.
https://media.giphy.com/media/1ube10l4xArN6/giphy.gif
Kirkland could totes run America better
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Ooooooh a special election in a district that Trump won by 20 points is won by a Democrat. There are roughly 120 seats less competitive than this one in November and the Democrats need to only win 24 to take control of the House. If they win the House they get subpoena power and can spend the next two years dissecting Trunp nightly on TV. His tax returns will be the first thing to get subpoenaed. It'll be genuinely difficult to keep up with all the different investigations.
That's if Mueller hasn't nailed him by then anyway.
And with this stunning turnaround in a safe Republican seat that the Democrats haven't even contested in over a decade and were outspent massively we go live to Democratic party headquarters:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYOC2XxVAAAQbsK.jpg
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Ooooooh a special election in a district that Trump won by 20 points is won by a Democrat. There are roughly 120 seats less competitive than this one in November and the Democrats need to only win 24 to take control of the House. If they win the House they get subpoena power and can spend the next two years dissecting Trunp nightly on TV. His tax returns will be the first thing to get subpoenaed. It'll be genuinely difficult to keep up with all the different investigations.
That's if Mueller hasn't nailed him by then anyway.
And with this stunning turnaround in a safe Republican seat that the Democrats haven't even contested in over a decade and were outspent massively we go live to Democratic party headquarters:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYOC2XxVAAAQbsK.jpg
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...accone-n856411
Drawing on his background as a Marine and former federal prosecutor, Lamb disowned Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and staked out positions on abortion, guns and fracking that hewed closer to the GOP.
But Lamb also embraced the classics of the Democratic playbook, hammering Saccone for allegedly wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare, and uniting Pittsburgh's powerful unions behind him in a way no Democrat had before in that district.
While the district will soon no longer exist, thanks to a recent ruling by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and one House seat is not worth much in 2018 Washington, the race was nonetheless freighted with real consequences for both parties as they gear up for a crucial midterm election.
Huge win Kirkland, HUGE :-\
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Kirkland Laing
Ooooooh a special election in a district that Trump won by 20 points is won by a Democrat. There are roughly 120 seats less competitive than this one in November and the Democrats need to only win 24 to take control of the House. If they win the House they get subpoena power and can spend the next two years dissecting Trunp nightly on TV. His tax returns will be the first thing to get subpoenaed. It'll be genuinely difficult to keep up with all the different investigations. That's if Mueller hasn't nailed him by then anyway. And with this stunning turnaround in a safe Republican seat that the Democrats haven't even contested in over a decade and were outspent massively we go live to Democratic party headquarters:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYOC2XxVAAAQbsK.jpg
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...accone-n856411 Drawing on his background as a Marine and former federal prosecutor, Lamb disowned Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and staked out positions on abortion, guns and fracking that hewed closer to the GOP. But Lamb also embraced the classics of the Democratic playbook, hammering Saccone for allegedly wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare, and uniting Pittsburgh's powerful unions behind him in a way no Democrat had before in that district. While the district will soon no longer exist, thanks to a recent ruling by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and one House seat is not worth much in 2018 Washington, the race was nonetheless freighted with real consequences for both parties as they gear up for a crucial midterm election. Huge win Kirkland, HUGE :-\
Yes Lyle, it'll no longer exist because the USSC refused to allow the GOP to keep gerrymandering the entire state and a lower court has now drawn up entirely new state districts that mean the GOP no longer have a massive inbuilt advantage.
In 2012 Democratic candidates won more votes statewide in PA House elections and Obama won the state. But Republicans won 13 seats and Democrats just won five. So in November Lamb will be running in a new district much more favourable to him and the Democrats will likely pick up a bunch of House seats elsewhere in PA.
And it is a huge win Lyle. Even Trump turning up for a rally and imposing tariffs didn't stop the GOP losing. It portends the Democrats winning back the House, which means subpoena power, which means endless investigations. Alexa, order all the popcorn.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...districts-2018
As I was saying yesterday Trump is on a competent person sacking spree. Cohn and Tillerson gone in the last week and now McMaster is next for the chop apparently. Trump's new Chief Economic Advisor is apparently going to be Larry Kudlow. If you google Larry Kudlow always wrong or Larry Kudlow stupidest man alive you'll get a good idea about Kudlow in particular and the triumph of ideology over reality in the GOP in general. It really does look like Trump is firing all the qualified/competent people in his administration and replacing them with an elite team of blithering idiots.
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Yes Lyle, it'll no longer exist because the USSC refused to allow the GOP to keep gerrymandering the entire state and a lower court has now drawn up entirely new state districts that mean the GOP no longer have a massive inbuilt advantage. In 2012 Democratic candidates won more votes statewide in PA House elections and Obama won the state. But Republicans won 13 seats and Democrats just won five. So in November Lamb will be running in a new district much more favourable to him and the Democrats will likely pick up a bunch of House seats elsewhere in PA. And it is a huge win Lyle. Even Trump turning up for a rally and imposing tariffs didn't stop the GOP losing. It portends the Democrats winning back the House, which means subpoena power, which means endless investigations. Alexa, order
all the popcorn.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...districts-2018 As I was saying yesterday Trump is on a competent person sacking spree. Cohn and Tillerson gone in the last week and now McMaster is next for the chop apparently. Trump's new Chief Economic Advisor is apparently going to be Larry Kudlow. If you google Larry Kudlow always wrong or Larry Kudlow stupidest man alive you'll get a good idea about Kudlow in particular and the triumph of ideology over reality in the GOP in general. It really does look like Trump is firing all the qualified/competent people in his administration and replacing them with an elite team of blithering idiots.
Democrats do it = Redistricting
Republicans do it = Gerrymandering
If Republicans had such a massive advantage in Pennsylvania then why had no Republican Presidential candidate won Pennsylvania since Reagan? If it was SUCH a massive advantage explain all the Democrat Governors. Please do.
"In 2012 Democratic candidates won more votes statewide in PA House elections and Obama won the state. But Republicans won 13 seats and Democrats just won five."
...could be that the Democrat areas were HEAVILY Democrat (like say PHILADELPHIA) and other areas highly contested, but I'm CERTAIN it is just as evil as you describe it because the Democrats are incapable of such evil and surely ONLY Republicans gerrymander.
The Democrat candidate in question ran a Republican campaign: pro-2nd Amendment, anti-Pelosi, reaching across the isle to work with opposition party, not taking PAC money...it's almost like Hillary Clinton ran his campaign herself ;D
Order all that popcorn and blow it out your ass.....VOX?!?!?! You're the very worst kind of partisan the kind who projects that they are middle of the road.
"It really does look like Trump is firing all the qualified/competent people in his administration and replacing them with an elite team of blithering idiots"
Par for the course according to you, I didn't think that you could think any less of who Trump already had in there, but here we are.
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Why no, carrying a tiny doll of Obama in your purse is not at all weird. Why do you ask?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...why-do-you-ask
“It’s easy to look at what’s happening in Washington DC and despair. That’s why I carry a little plastic Obama doll in my purse. I pull him out every now and then to remind myself that the United States had a progressive, African American president until very recently. Some people find this strange, but you have to take comfort where you can find it in Donald Trump’s America.”
You carry your lil Obama dolly around Kirk?
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Kirkland Laing
Yes Lyle, it'll no longer exist because the USSC refused to allow the GOP to keep gerrymandering the entire state and a lower court has now drawn up entirely new state districts that mean the GOP no longer have a massive inbuilt advantage. In 2012 Democratic candidates won more votes statewide in PA House elections and Obama won the state. But Republicans won 13 seats and Democrats just won five. So in November Lamb will be running in a new district much more favourable to him and the Democrats will likely pick up a bunch of House seats elsewhere in PA. And it is a huge win Lyle. Even Trump turning up for a rally and imposing tariffs didn't stop the GOP losing. It portends the Democrats winning back the House, which means subpoena power, which means endless investigations. Alexa, order
all the popcorn.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...districts-2018 As I was saying yesterday Trump is on a competent person sacking spree. Cohn and Tillerson gone in the last week and now McMaster is next for the chop apparently. Trump's new Chief Economic Advisor is apparently going to be Larry Kudlow. If you google Larry Kudlow always wrong or Larry Kudlow stupidest man alive you'll get a good idea about Kudlow in particular and the triumph of ideology over reality in the GOP in general. It really does look like Trump is firing all the qualified/competent people in his administration and replacing them with an elite team of blithering idiots.
Democrats do it = Redistricting
Republicans do it = Gerrymandering
If Republicans had such a massive advantage in Pennsylvania then why had no Republican Presidential candidate won Pennsylvania since Reagan? If it was SUCH a massive advantage explain all the Democrat Governors. Please do.
"In 2012 Democratic candidates won more votes statewide in PA House elections and Obama won the state. But Republicans won 13 seats and Democrats just won five."
...could be that the Democrat areas were HEAVILY Democrat (like say PHILADELPHIA) and other areas highly contested, but I'm CERTAIN it is just as evil as you describe it because the Democrats are incapable of such evil and surely ONLY Republicans gerrymander.
The Democrat candidate in question ran a Republican campaign: pro-2nd Amendment, anti-Pelosi, reaching across the isle to work with opposition party, not taking PAC money...it's almost like Hillary Clinton ran his campaign herself ;D
Order all that popcorn and blow it out your ass.....VOX?!?!?! You're the very worst kind of partisan the kind who projects that they are middle of the road.
"It really does look like Trump is firing all the qualified/competent people in his administration and replacing them with an elite team of blithering idiots"
Par for the course according to you, I didn't think that you could think any less of who Trump already had in there, but here we are.
This post is like Lyle bingo. After having made a completely ignorant statement that is disproved by facts double down on the stupid with a ridiculous argument that just made a ten year old girl laugh out loud when I got her to read it (she said "he's trolling you", I said no he really is that dumb :D ), dismiss a factual article full of linked checkable facts as rubbish because you don't like the source, BLOCK CAPS. I call stupid house. Ffs Lyle.
You made my brother's daughter laugh though. God bless you.
Here's some more GOP gerrymandering from your home state.
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...197852639.html
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Kirkland Laing
This post is like Lyle bingo. After having made a completely ignorant statement that is disproved by facts double down on the stupid with a ridiculous argument that just made a ten year old girl laugh out loud when I got her to read it (she said "he's trolling you", I said no he really is that dumb :D ), dismiss a factual article full of linked checkable facts as rubbish because you don't like the source, BLOCK CAPS. I call stupid house. Ffs Lyle.
You made my brother's daughter laugh though. God bless you.
Here's some more GOP gerrymandering from your home state.
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...197852639.html
If you wish to read and believe Ezra Klein or Matthew Yglesias or David Corn, that's fine go right ahead and just take everything they write as the gospel truth. I'm not stopping you, but I'm not taking them as "middle of the road" "non partisan" objective journalists because they aren't and that is an absolute undeniable fact. The head of Vox, Ezra Klein started the JournoList...ever hear of the JournoList? I mean you wouldn't care anyway because you're sympathetic to their views.
NC =/= PA not sure if you understand redistricting or geography but those are actual things which you might want to actually learn about.
Cute you have a "woke" niece....that's lovely....I let my dog read your post and he called you a faggot so there ya go ;)
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El Kabong
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Kirkland Laing
This post is like Lyle bingo. After having made a completely ignorant statement that is disproved by facts double down on the stupid with a ridiculous argument that just made a ten year old girl laugh out loud when I got her to read it (she said "he's trolling you", I said no he really is that dumb :D ), dismiss a factual article full of linked checkable facts as rubbish because you don't like the source, BLOCK CAPS. I call stupid house. Ffs Lyle.
You made my brother's daughter laugh though. God bless you.
Here's some more GOP gerrymandering from your home state.
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...197852639.html
If you wish to read and believe Ezra Klein or Matthew Yglesias or David Corn, that's fine go right ahead and just take everything they write as the gospel truth. I'm not stopping you, but I'm not taking them as "middle of the road" "non partisan" objective journalists because they aren't and that is an absolute undeniable fact. The head of Vox, Ezra Klein started the JournoList...ever hear of the JournoList? I mean you wouldn't care anyway because you're sympathetic to their views.
NC =/= PA not sure if you understand redistricting or geography but those are actual things which you might want to actually learn about.
Cute you have a "woke" niece....that's lovely....I let my dog read your post and he called you a faggot so there ya go ;)
Ha ha lyles dog called Kirk gay, top that one Kirk
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Get your dog behind the keyboard, Lyle because that's Kirk's only chance in FGOTY.
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Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.
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Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.
Good point and Kirk only tells the truth
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Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.
Good point and Kirk only tells the truth
He is certainly more objective, which is why Lyle has to invent the lie that he Kirkland is a Hilary supporter etc. We have never subscribed to the binary polemic of red or blue quite so much in the UK, until recently, and yet yourself and Lyle seem unable to accept the fact that non of us criticizing Trump were ever Obama or Clinton supporters. Quite the opposite. It doesn't fit the narrative though and so you all insist on trying to lower the bar and make it all about binary politics. Everyone is rendered into a meme and opinons or life experience etc is ignored in favour of point scoring rubbish. For a millennial hipster like Lyle who thinks the interweb and TV he chooses to watch represents reality, I get it, but I assumed you were a bit more old school and would have seen the bullshit from every administration, just as we have here, whoever is in power.
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Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.
Good point and Kirk only tells the truth
He is certainly more objective, which is why Lyle has to invent the lie that he Kirkland is a Hilary supporter etc. We have never subscribed to the binary polemic of red or blue quite so much in the UK, until recently, and yet yourself and Lyle seem unable to accept the fact that non of us criticizing Trump were ever Obama or Clinton supporters. Quite the opposite. It doesn't fit the narrative though and so you all insist on trying to lower the bar and make it all about binary politics. Everyone is rendered into a meme and opinons or life experience etc is ignored in favour of point scoring rubbish. For a millennial hipster like Lyle who thinks the interweb and TV he chooses to watch represents reality, I get it, but I assumed you were a bit more old school and would have seen the bullshit from every administration, just as we have here, whoever is in power.
Alright then @Beanz who did Kirkland support in the election? He wasn't for Trump, you're telling me he wasn't for Hillary....was he for Gary Johnson the Libertarian? Was he for Jill Stein of the Green Party? Was he for Evan McMullin who ran as an Independent? Was he for Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party? Because those were the only people running. Maybe he was for Bernie Sanders, maybe he was THAT naive (that's a lot of naive seeing how the old Socialist allowed himself to be bought off to lose that primary and everyone knows it....well maybe Kirk doesn't fathom that just yet). If Kirkland didn't support ANY of those folks then he's just a Trump hater which is hardly an objective position.
I don't understand why you are even in here Beanz, you're not American, you don't seem to care for Americans, and you certainly don't come over to vote. So I guess you just feel this urge to stick up for Kirkland which I guess good on you for helping him out maybe he'll give you some charts and graphs in return.
So you've opted to not call me a Nazi but a "millennial hipster" :rolleyes:....ok that's progress I guess
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Lyle there is a world of difference between pointing a massive flaw in your base for starting an argument and me calling your country "A joke of a country" or constantly moaning about what it has become which is what none of the British posters her would ever do (Miles does not count). It's all you drone on about. I have no problem with Americans. You, Walrus and Brockton hardly represent most Americans, you don't even represent most American posters here. You are an aberration.
And you anti-free speech thing is getting so old now. You can call me what you like. I just don't like my family being brought into it, which is a line you at least never crossed.
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Lyle there is a world of difference between pointing a massive flaw in your base for starting an argument and me calling your country "A joke of a country" or constantly moaning about what it has become which is what none of the British posters her would ever do (Miles does not count). It's all you drone on about. I have no problem with Americans. You, Walrus and Brockton hardly represent most Americans, you don't even represent most American posters here. You are an aberration.
And you anti-free speech thing is getting so old now. You can call me what you like. I just don't like my family being brought into it, which is a line you at least never crossed.
So you're just not going to address ANYTHING I fucking asked you? Why bother responding? What did you hope to achieve by posting this? You've not answered any of the questions I've asked, you're extremely vague on where I'm supposedly wrong, and for the last time, I'm not forcing you to read my posts. Fuck your family I don't give a shit about them, stop trying to hide behind them and answer a God damned question or just hey here's an idea leave me alone and don't read my posts you'd probably be happier doing that.
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Lyle there is a world of difference between pointing a massive flaw in your base for starting an argument and me calling your country "A joke of a country" or constantly moaning about what it has become which is what none of the British posters her would ever do (Miles does not count). It's all you drone on about. I have no problem with Americans. You, Walrus and Brockton hardly represent most Americans, you don't even represent most American posters here. You are an aberration.
And you anti-free speech thing is getting so old now. You can call me what you like. I just don't like my family being brought into it, which is a line you at least never crossed.
So you're just not going to address ANYTHING I fucking asked you? Why bother responding? What did you hope to achieve by posting this? You've not answered any of the questions I've asked, you're extremely vague on where I'm supposedly wrong, and for the last time, I'm not forcing you to read my posts. Fuck your family I don't give a shit about them, stop trying to hide behind them and answer a God damned question or just hey here's an idea leave me alone and don't read my posts you'd probably be happier doing that.
You said "I don't even understand why you are in here Beanz" and so I answered that. Are you trying to police, moderate or overthrow the forum then? You certainly are not here to debate anything.
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Beanz
Lyle there is a world of difference between pointing a massive flaw in your base for starting an argument and me calling your country "A joke of a country" or constantly moaning about what it has become which is what none of the British posters her would ever do (Miles does not count). It's all you drone on about. I have no problem with Americans. You, Walrus and Brockton hardly represent most Americans, you don't even represent most American posters here. You are an aberration.
And you anti-free speech thing is getting so old now. You can call me what you like. I just don't like my family being brought into it, which is a line you at least never crossed.
So you're just not going to address ANYTHING I fucking asked you? Why bother responding? What did you hope to achieve by posting this? You've not answered any of the questions I've asked, you're extremely vague on where I'm supposedly wrong, and for the last time, I'm not forcing you to read my posts. Fuck your family I don't give a shit about them, stop trying to hide behind them and answer a God damned question or just hey here's an idea leave me alone and don't read my posts you'd probably be happier doing that.
You said
"I don't even understand why you are in here Beanz" and so I answered that. Are you trying to police, moderate or overthrow the forum then? You certainly are not here to debate anything.
You believe you answered that? Then ok, if you say so.
I'm not policing or moderating anything. When you disagree with my posts I expect reasons, explanations, use of facts to dismantle my argument....this might come as a shock to you, but when you respond to my posts you do absolutely none of that which is infuriating.
I can't debate because you don't know how to and it takes two to tango. I begin to wonder if you wear velcro shoes and a helmet because I've explained time and time again, what you do isn't debating, it isn't arguing, it's insults and drivel. You don't ever post "You're wrong on these points and here is why you're wrong" now you might get irritated when I number or bullet point my posts but there's a reason why I do that. I'm trying to make it easier for people to follow along and I'm making points about certain sections of the post i'm responding to.
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So Trump Korea yeh. Thread has turned into another slap fight on the open board surprise surprise. I'd like to invite the two of you to ignore one another if you can't sort it out. And ffs all concerned lets leave families out of it.
Anyone have the specifics on what Trump tweeted about South Korea? Going out on a limb and saying this 'meet' doesn't happen in May. Wasn't sure about Tilerson but he was dismissed with less respect than a failed dishwasher. No idea on Pompao and not sure bullfrog with the jacked up haircut has even responded to Trump??
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So Trump Korea yeh. Thread has turned into another slap fight on the open board surprise surprise. I'd like to invite the two of you to ignore one another if you can't sort it out. And ffs all concerned lets leave families out of it.
Anyone have the specifics on what Trump tweeted about South Korea? Going out on a limb and saying this 'meet' doesn't happen in May. Wasn't sure about Tilerson but he was dismissed with less respect than a failed dishwasher. No idea on Pompao and not sure bullfrog with the jacked up haircut has even responded to Trump??
Hey, even the possibility of a meeting is much more progress than we have made recently. That shit was getting hot. Best Korea hasn't launched anything in a while. id like it to get to the point where we can see Kim addressing the UN in New York, that would be entertaining. I liked a lot of what Rex had to say by the way
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So Trump Korea yeh. Thread has turned into another slap fight on the open board surprise surprise. I'd like to invite the two of you to ignore one another if you can't sort it out. And ffs all concerned lets leave families out of it.
Anyone have the specifics on what Trump tweeted about South Korea? Going out on a limb and saying this 'meet' doesn't happen in May. Wasn't sure about Tilerson but he was dismissed with less respect than a failed dishwasher. No idea on Pompao and not sure bullfrog with the jacked up haircut has even responded to Trump??
I'd love nothing more than for Beanz to leave me alone @Spicoli been wanting that for ages. I USED to have him on block but apparently Kirkland didn't like that so he wouldn't let that rest.
All I want is to post without being followed by Beanz, every single chance he gets it's just him taking shots at me and when I hit back he cries about it. I didn't bring his family up he did and I don't give a single fuck about them.
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Spicoli
So Trump Korea yeh. Thread has turned into another slap fight on the open board surprise surprise. I'd like to invite the two of you to ignore one another if you can't sort it out. And ffs all concerned lets leave families out of it.
Anyone have the specifics on what Trump tweeted about South Korea? Going out on a limb and saying this 'meet' doesn't happen in May. Wasn't sure about Tilerson but he was dismissed with less respect than a failed dishwasher. No idea on Pompao and not sure bullfrog with the jacked up haircut has even responded to Trump??
I'd love nothing more than for Beanz to leave me alone @
Spicoli been wanting that for ages. I USED to have him on block but apparently Kirkland didn't like that so he wouldn't let that rest.
All I want is to post without being followed by Beanz, every single chance he gets it's just him taking shots at me and when I hit back he cries about it. I didn't bring his family up he did and I don't give a single fuck about them.
Yes you've made that last part clear thanks. And block is a wonderful feature so don't let Kirkland decide things. @Beanz you too, you guys are not going to change one another. Or there's always agree to disagree.
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Kirkland Laing
This post is like Lyle bingo. After having made a completely ignorant statement that is disproved by facts double down on the stupid with a ridiculous argument that just made a ten year old girl laugh out loud when I got her to read it (she said "he's trolling you", I said no he really is that dumb :D ), dismiss a factual article full of linked checkable facts as rubbish because you don't like the source, BLOCK CAPS. I call stupid house. Ffs Lyle.
You made my brother's daughter laugh though. God bless you.
Here's some more GOP gerrymandering from your home state.
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...197852639.html
If you wish to read and believe Ezra Klein or Matthew Yglesias or David Corn, that's fine go right ahead and just take everything they write as the gospel truth. I'm not stopping you, but I'm not taking them as "middle of the road" "non partisan" objective journalists because they aren't and that is an absolute undeniable fact. The head of Vox, Ezra Klein started the JournoList...ever hear of the JournoList? I mean you wouldn't care anyway because you're sympathetic to their views.
NC =/= PA not sure if you understand redistricting or geography but those are actual things which you might want to actually learn about.
Cute you have a "woke" niece....that's lovely....I let my dog read your post and he called you a faggot so there ya go ;)
The gerrymandering the article is covering has been widely reported in every outlet and newspaper you can mention. You would already know about it if you read a fucking newspaper. From the Commies at the WSJ:
Pennsylvania GOP Lawmakers Submit New Map in Gerrymandering Case
State’s Supreme Court had overturned current congressional districts as unfair to Democrats
Voters in Pennsylvania, a perennial battleground state, often split closely between Democrats and Republicans in statewide elections. The state’s congressional delegation, however, tilts 13-to-5 in favor of Republicans under the district lines the GOP drew in 2011.
Political analysts say Democrats could pick up three to four additional seats under new district boundaries. The party needs to gain a net 24 seats nationwide in November to retake the U.S. House, which has been under Republican control since 2011.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pennsyl...ase-1518202728
Here's Fox News :
North Carolina congressional map illegally gerrymandered, judges rule
Federal judges ruled Tuesday that North Carolina's congressional district map drawn by legislative Republicans is illegally gerrymandered because of excessive partisanship that gave GOP a rock-solid advantage for most seats and must quickly be redone.
The ruling marks the second time this decade that the GOP's congressional boundaries in North Carolina have been thrown out by a three-judge panel. In 2016, another panel tossed out two majority black congressional districts initially drawn in 2011, saying there was no justification for using race as the predominant factor in forming them. The redrawn map was the basis for a new round of lawsuits.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...dges-rule.html
I picked Vox as it's a nice easy explainer with lots of links. And just bear in mind for a minute the ridiculousness of somebody who gets their news from Alex Jones, Fox News and nutcases on the radio complaining about nonexistent bias in a factual article. And then telling me I "might want to actually read" about something to learn about it. You do a nice line in unintentional comedy Lyle.
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Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.
Good point and Kirk only tells the truth
He is certainly more objective, which is why Lyle has to invent the lie that he Kirkland is a Hilary supporter etc. We have never subscribed to the binary polemic of red or blue quite so much in the UK, until recently, and yet yourself and Lyle seem unable to accept the fact that non of us criticizing Trump were ever Obama or Clinton supporters. Quite the opposite. It doesn't fit the narrative though and so you all insist on trying to lower the bar and make it all about binary politics. Everyone is rendered into a meme and opinons or life experience etc is ignored in favour of point scoring rubbish. For a millennial hipster like Lyle who thinks the interweb and TV he chooses to watch represents reality, I get it, but I assumed you were a bit more old school and would have seen the bullshit from every administration, just as we have here, whoever is in power.
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...50928714747906
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Kirkland Laing
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Beanz
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walrus
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Beanz
Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.
Good point and Kirk only tells the truth
He is certainly more objective, which is why Lyle has to invent the lie that he Kirkland is a Hilary supporter etc. We have never subscribed to the binary polemic of red or blue quite so much in the UK, until recently, and yet yourself and Lyle seem unable to accept the fact that non of us criticizing Trump were ever Obama or Clinton supporters. Quite the opposite. It doesn't fit the narrative though and so you all insist on trying to lower the bar and make it all about binary politics. Everyone is rendered into a meme and opinons or life experience etc is ignored in favour of point scoring rubbish. For a millennial hipster like Lyle who thinks the interweb and TV he chooses to watch represents reality, I get it, but I assumed you were a bit more old school and would have seen the bullshit from every administration, just as we have here, whoever is in power.
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...50928714747906
Ha, it's presented as a spin but the cuts of the videos are a spin. It is frickin crazy. Why did I click Kirk link, #bringbackbeanz
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Don't know what you are all on about. I really want to see Trump hang out with Elton John.
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Kirkland Laing
The gerrymandering the article is covering has been widely reported in every outlet and newspaper you can mention. You would already know about it if you read a fucking newspaper. From the Commies at the WSJ:
Pennsylvania GOP Lawmakers Submit New Map in Gerrymandering Case State’s Supreme Court had overturned current congressional districts as unfair to Democrats
Voters in Pennsylvania, a perennial battleground state, often split closely between Democrats and Republicans in statewide elections. The state’s congressional delegation, however, tilts 13-to-5 in favor of Republicans under the district lines the GOP drew in 2011.
Political analysts say Democrats could pick up three to four additional seats under new district boundaries. The party needs to gain a net 24 seats nationwide in November to retake the U.S. House, which has been under Republican control since 2011.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pennsyl...ase-1518202728
Here's Fox News :
North Carolina congressional map illegally gerrymandered, judges rule
Federal judges ruled Tuesday that North Carolina's congressional district map drawn by legislative Republicans is illegally gerrymandered because of excessive partisanship that gave GOP a rock-solid advantage for most seats and must quickly be redone.
The ruling marks the second time this decade that the GOP's congressional boundaries in North Carolina have been thrown out by a three-judge panel. In 2016, another panel tossed out two majority black congressional districts initially drawn in 2011, saying there was no justification for using race as the predominant factor in forming them. The redrawn map was the basis for a new round of lawsuits.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...dges-rule.html
I picked Vox as it's a nice easy explainer with lots of links. And just bear in mind for a minute the ridiculousness of somebody who gets their news from Alex Jones, Fox News and nutcases on the radio complaining about nonexistent bias in a factual article. And then telling me I "might want to actually read" about something to learn about it. You do a nice line in unintentional comedy Lyle.
Thanks again for not addressing the crux of my response:
Democrats do it and it's called "redistricting".....Republicans do it and it's ALWAYS called "gerrymandering", every single time, and it never fails.
Redistricting occurs every 10 years and the party in power in the individual state decides how to go about redistricting some of which answer to the federal government.
You picked Vox because Vox is 100% unabashedly LEFT, they operate under the assumption that the left is always correct and the right is always evil. Same when you use Mother Jones which you don't even think is left leaning despite being named after a trade union activist.
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El Kabong
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Kirkland Laing
The gerrymandering the article is covering has been widely reported in every outlet and newspaper you can mention. You would already know about it if you read a fucking newspaper. From the Commies at the WSJ:
Pennsylvania GOP Lawmakers Submit New Map in Gerrymandering Case
State’s Supreme Court had overturned current congressional districts as unfair to Democrats
Voters in Pennsylvania, a perennial battleground state, often split closely between Democrats and Republicans in statewide elections. The state’s congressional delegation, however, tilts 13-to-5 in favor of Republicans under the district lines the GOP drew in 2011.
Political analysts say Democrats could pick up three to four additional seats under new district boundaries. The party needs to gain a net 24 seats nationwide in November to retake the U.S. House, which has been under Republican control since 2011.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pennsyl...ase-1518202728
Here's Fox News :
North Carolina congressional map illegally gerrymandered, judges rule
Federal judges ruled Tuesday that North Carolina's congressional district map drawn by legislative Republicans is illegally gerrymandered because of excessive partisanship that gave GOP a rock-solid advantage for most seats and must quickly be redone.
The ruling marks the second time this decade that the GOP's congressional boundaries in North Carolina have been thrown out by a three-judge panel. In 2016, another panel tossed out two majority black congressional districts initially drawn in 2011, saying there was no justification for using race as the predominant factor in forming them. The redrawn map was the basis for a new round of lawsuits.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...dges-rule.html
I picked Vox as it's a nice easy explainer with lots of links. And just bear in mind for a minute the ridiculousness of somebody who gets their news from Alex Jones, Fox News and nutcases on the radio complaining about nonexistent bias in a factual article. And then telling me I "might want to actually read" about something to learn about it. You do a nice line in unintentional comedy Lyle.
Thanks again for not addressing the crux of my response:
Democrats do it and it's called "redistricting".....Republicans do it and it's ALWAYS called "gerrymandering", every single time, and it never fails.
Redistricting occurs every 10 years and the party in power in the individual state decides how to go about redistricting some of which answer to the federal government.
You picked Vox because Vox is 100% unabashedly LEFT, they operate under the assumption that the left is always correct and the right is always evil. Same when you use Mother Jones which you don't even think is left leaning despite being named after a trade union activist.
Even Fox News are calling it gerrymandering. Not redisctricting.
Redistricting is the periodic process of changing the boundaries of districts according to the rules governing the redistricting process. It's a process with a comprehensive jurisprudence and with a legal definition. Gerrymandering is something else entirely. Had the GOP gerrymandering not been gerrymandering and had followed the established redistricting process it would never have gone to court and the GOP would not have been accused of gerrymandering and would not have had a succession of federal judges find that they were guilty of gerrymandering.
As usual you jumped in and mouthed off about something you knew absolutely nothing about and now you're furiously trying to misdirect and change the subject to media bias or whatever. I know how difficult it is for you with your shelf and you won't be able to remember the start of this argument due to it beginning several days ago but just go back and reread the whole thing. It's ridiculous. It's like arguing with a small child. Just try fucking googling stuff just once the next time you're about to put your foot in it.
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Kirkland Laing
Even Fox News are calling it gerrymandering. Not redisctricting.
Redistricting is the periodic process of changing the boundaries of districts according to the rules governing the redistricting process. It's a process with a comprehensive jurisprudence and with a legal definition. Gerrymandering is something else entirely. Had the GOP gerrymandering not been gerrymandering and had followed the established redistricting process it would never have gone to court and the GOP would not have been accused of gerrymandering and would not have had a succession of federal judges find that they were guilty of gerrymandering.
As usual you jumped in and mouthed off about something you knew absolutely nothing about and now you're furiously trying to misdirect and change the subject to media bias or whatever. I know how difficult it is for you with your shelf and you won't be able to remember the start of this argument due to it beginning several days ago but just go back and reread the whole thing. It's ridiculous. It's like arguing with a small child. Just try fucking googling stuff just once the next time you're about to put your foot in it.
Good for them.
Yeah, I know the difference between the two and I know certainly how they are used it's almost like when I posted "Democrats do it and it's called "redistricting".....Republicans do it and it's ALWAYS called "gerrymandering"." that it was 100% the case....astonishing how you can continue to attempt to talk past me and then act like I'm dense.
Kirkland, I'll ask you something, I figure you won't participate but just in case you do try to Google "Democrat gerrymandering" or "Democrat Party gerrymandering" or "Democratic gerrymandering" or any mix of the words and find me a story that talks about the Democrats gerrymandering ANYTHING it could be about a race for dog catcher, and I care not about the source it could be from DailyKos it could be from Infowars it could be from Breitbart it could be from Buzzfeed it could be from your favorite mother Jones....show me ANYTHING related to 1 or many Democrats gerrymandering anything.
All of the gerrymandering talk is sour grapes about the Dems focusing on the White house instead of local races which they ended up losing pre 2010 and here were are in 2018 after the redistricting of several states which made it more favorable for Republicans and non-Democrats and now looking ahead for 2020 they're getting nervous again.
Why worry about Republicans in North Carolina anyway? I know that you specifically believe in the Southern strategy and this idea of a great shift in politics where the Southern states became republican instead of Democrat because a Democrat President LBJ voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (passed almost entirely by Republicans) so they switched from Democrat to Republican because the Republican Party was more open to racism :dontknow: .....it makes 0 sense, but whatever I suppose you know what you're doing.