I saw this online and find it interesting. I don't know if it had been posted here before so if it has just ignore this thread and go on to the next.
Any other worst moments worth mentioning.
Top 10 Worst Moments in Boxing History - Listverse
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I saw this online and find it interesting. I don't know if it had been posted here before so if it has just ignore this thread and go on to the next.
Any other worst moments worth mentioning.
Top 10 Worst Moments in Boxing History - Listverse
Interesting read but while kim's death was extremely sad, as is any death in the ring I don't think it should be on the list as the rest deal with shameful and shady dealings.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
Kostya Tszyu-Ricky Hatton. The way Hatton and Dave Parris double-teamed Tszyu that night was disgusting to watch. Parris let Hatton do everything he wanted. The worst part was when Parris ignored a legit knock down scored by Tszyu and than allows Hatton to wind up and purposely hit Tszyu in the balls. Didn't even issue a warning. One of the most corrupt jobs of referring I ever seen. And the Hatton groupies (what's left of them) defend it.
Good read not sure about #1 though. But I think I would add to that list with the day the alphabet titles were formed...a sad time for boxing IMO.
If you are going to start including referee hack jobs on such a list then Saddo better increase the character count. The Chavez/Taylor fight does not equal Steele being corrupt. Do people actually believe that he was watching the time clock? Many worse calls have been made and fights reffed over the course of history. Same with Kim's death. No offense or lack of respect but what makes his death worse then say Baroudi being killed by Charles or Doyle by Robinson?
Here is a few other hack jobs if you want to talk corruption.
Cortez in Soto/Lorenzo
Tilleman in Reid/Ottke
Neumann in Abraham/Miranda 1
Mora in Mares/Agbeko 1. Joseph probably needed a junk transplant after that.
Santore in Martinez/Cintron
Cole in Jmm/Jaca "You can quit if you want Juan, your ahead on the cards."
Big difference between being corrupt and being incompetent. Those are pretty much cases of the refs being incompetent. It's no surprise to see the names Cortez, Mora and Neumann included. Tilleman gets a bad rap for Ottke-Reid. He didn't do a bad a job as fools claim. And Cole clearly gets unfairly criticized for the Marquez-Jaca fight. It's not his job to say it but really all Cole did was tell Marquez what he and everybody with a pair of eyeballs already knew. That he was winning. Big fucking deal. None of those refs conspired with the fighter like Parris did with HattonQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
You got that right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseBig difference between being corrupt and being incompetent.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I have no fucking doubt if Froch would of been in Tszyu situation you would of slashed Parris tiresQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam SeddonZzzQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The early death of Salvador Sanchez was a huge blow for boxing and to think what career he would've had in the 80's? Rematches with Nelson, potential match up with Chavez and Whitaker? A truly shocking moment.
The life of Carlos Monzon, a great fighter, but what a tumultuous personal life!
Ali V Holmes was terrible to watch (shouldn't have happened)
Roy Jones later years (losing in 1 round to an ordinary fighter like Danny Green was sad)
Whitaker draw with Chavez is still my number one worst decision of all time.
I'm a writer for listverse lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
Very good site.
However I have submitted 2 lists on boxing that they refuse to publish.
They do not publish much sport now.
A very weird list.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
As mentioned, deaths should be off it, as usually each death is as tragic as the next.
No Gonzalez/CoggiI or Rivers/Walgast?
They pick on King's corruption, but do not list Arum et al, who have all in their time, been just as corrupt.
The IBF is singled out, but the WBC also went bust due to corruption.
The MSG riot was nasty, but not a patch on what used to happen regularly in the LA Olympic Auditorium, or the hatred that started the riot at Hagler/Minter.
It seems the list is a bit cliché, with little thought put into it.
And no mention of Adrian Dodson wearing red tights into the ring? Av a word.
Not really sure what you're talking about here. That punch was right on the beltline and should have been scored as a legit knockdown. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Not sure how you mistake Mcline-Mollo for Bowe-Golota?
i don't like how the author included opinion pieces (Richard Steele being corrupt, Sonny Liston taking a dive, ect) with actual facts. Even if it is widely believed, you shouldn't speak of that kind of stuff in the same way you'd speak of cold hard facts, like fighter deaths.
For me, when Tszyu lost his title Manchester. If he had lost fair and square, i would have no problems with it but the manner in which he lost was disgusting.
The hometown fighter in Hatton pretty much got to anything he wanted inside the ring. NOt only did he have the referee and the judges in his pocket but he was allowed to wrestle, rabbit punch, throw low blows etc that was not a boxing match ..
Ricky Hatton.. The most overrated fraud ever in the history of UK boxing..
Ricky Hatton wasn't a fraud. He was in fact The Man at 140 lbs for a while.
I agree that he was over-rated by the British, but he was no fraud.
Hatton had the guts to step in there with who were considered the top 2 pound-for-pound best in the world when they were at their absolute best. No shame there.
A faded Muhammad Ali fighting a prime Holmes should be on a lit of worst moments in boxing as should an even older, more faded Ali fighting Trevor Berbick a couple of years later.
The Great Joe Louis being done by his own gov't.
Man donated entire fight purses to the war relief in WWII, and how does his gov't thank him?
They tell him those purses were taxable income, and he has to pay taxes on them, and the penalties had continued to pile up.
At the end, his entire fight purses were being seized, and they were not enough to even cover the interest on the principle. Eventually, old Joe was reduced to being a door-greeter at a Las Vegas casino.
Gerald McClellan vs Nigel Benn.
I thought perhaps Tyson/Holyfield rematch, but biting a piece of a man's ear off is something I'd never seen before, so maybe it was worth it.
He went from being dominated by the best in a boxing ring to getting knocked the fuck out in a bar by some chump bouncer. His actions afterwards showed everybody that Hatton's true color was yellow. Did he ever go back to the bar? Did he ever try and get back at that bouncer for laying him out? No. Instead the coward claims an addiction and goes into rehab. Fucking quitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
Man, Mora was terrible! If you want true outright corruption my nod goes to Isidro Rodriquez in Coggi vs Eder Gonzalez 1. THE most flagrant payed off hack job by ref I personally have ever seen, check it out if you can. Also ref in Tarver v Harding 2! Honorable mention to Randy NeumanQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
So you saying the corner men are not allowed to hold there fighter up during the fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliMan, Mora was terrible! If you want true outright corruption my nod goes to Isidro Rodriquez in Coggi vs Eder Gonzalez 1. THE most flagrant payed off hack job by ref I personally have ever seen, check it out if you can. Also ref in Tarver v Harding 2! Honorable mention to Randy NeumanQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
The recent riot in Asia causing many deaths & injuries must surely enter this list or maybe it's not too higher profile for that.
If Mancini vs Kim is listed then why not add the numerous others who have died also. Personally I think Griffith vs Paret 3 would have been more worthy if deaths are included. This bout led to boxing on TV becoming non-existent for a while & the bout should have been stopped before it was.
I've come to hate lists & historic rankings many boxing people love, it's hard to quantify the subjects/fighters within context, one man's drink is another man's poison.
No doubt ;D, they had to virtually duck tape there to keep him upright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseSo you saying the corner men are not allowed to hold there fighter up during the fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliMan, Mora was terrible! If you want true outright corruption my nod goes to Isidro Rodriquez in Coggi vs Eder Gonzalez 1. THE most flagrant payed off hack job by ref I personally have ever seen, check it out if you can. Also ref in Tarver v Harding 2! Honorable mention to Randy NeumanQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Gotta throw in the 1980 plane crash in Poland that killed 20 members of the US Olympic boxing team who were off to the trials. Bobby Czyz missed his flight, lucky man!
Crash did take out Paul Palomino. Carlos Palomino's younger brotherQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliNo doubt ;D, they had to virtually duck tape there to keep him upright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseSo you saying the corner men are not allowed to hold there fighter up during the fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliMan, Mora was terrible! If you want true outright corruption my nod goes to Isidro Rodriquez in Coggi vs Eder Gonzalez 1. THE most flagrant payed off hack job by ref I personally have ever seen, check it out if you can. Also ref in Tarver v Harding 2! Honorable mention to Randy NeumanQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Gotta throw in the 1980 plane crash in Poland that killed 20 members of the US Olympic boxing team who were off to the trials. Bobby Czyz missed his flight, lucky man!
Tyson ear biting.
Douglas attempted to be robbed of the title.