What is he waiting on?
Spence isn’t happening and neither is Canelo.
Fight Boots or the Tim Vs Thurman winner asap!
You’re nearly 37.
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What is he waiting on?
Spence isn’t happening and neither is Canelo.
Fight Boots or the Tim Vs Thurman winner asap!
You’re nearly 37.
Really want him to keep the momentum. Beginning to think he really banked on the Canelo circus happening and little else. I'd settle on a Santillan defense and really like to see him move up for Tszyu. Think that's the whole plan of Tszyu v Thurman.
After Crawford dispatched Spence in 2nd gear I did not want to see the rematch at any weight. It was far too one sided.
Crawford has stalled his career waiting for Spence/Canelo and wasted the momentum.
I remember they days when greats earned their status.
This is entirely the reason why , although Crawford is a great boxer and probably the best around, he will never be in the conversation of ATG’s .
Blame Arum, blame bad decisions, blame whatever you want, but facts are facts and he wasted an opportunity to become an ATG.
Agree with all the comments.
He’s wasted a lot of time and missed the best fights.
He should be fighting x3 times this year.
Let's be honest: There is no one we really want to see Crawford fight that makes sense. He has beaten everyone in the division and virtually is no competition with him with anyone else. He is too small to be a middleweight to fight Canelo or GGG and too big for Tank Davis... there is no where for him to go that we would really want to pay for.
But, despite that: He could beat the breaks off of Boots. Take a Charlo fight and Canelo fight at 160. Also take a Tyzu fight at 154.
So how does of all opponents Chris Eubanks Jr strike the interest meter at 160? Hopefully it was just floated as an alternative to a Tszyu fight. If Tim shines vs Fundora is pay top dollar for a Tim vs Bud match.
i heard recently that bud has used his super champion status to become mandatory to the winner of timmy v sebastian
That would be an amazing fight if Crawford faced Tim next.
If the Eubank fight comes off it can be Bud just clearing two runways for options. Tim makes most sense and more appealing. But Bud could be lobbying at 160 to show he can carry weight, be a live threat to the Cinnamon god Canelo. He’s still hoping. Saw a pic of Bud yesterday he looks massive and cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliIf the Eubank fight comes off it can be Bud just clearing two runways for options. Tim makes most sense and more appealing. But Bud could be lobbying at 160 to show he can carry weight, be a live threat to the Cinnamon god Canelo. He’s still hoping. Saw a pic of Bud yesterday he looks massive and cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Don't make me want this, bro. (LOL)
You know there's nothing that would please me more in the world of boxing than Canelo getting KTFO'ed. I still think Dmitry should've stepped on the gas and gotten him outta there.
If only we could be sure that Bud would box rings around Canelo and still have the power to hurt him.... I'd buy tickets right now. Then again, if you don't knock out Canelo in Vegas... you've lost.
Never mind.
Bud would get Charlo'ed, Danny Jacob'ed and Armir kahn'ed against Canelo lol
Who ever even had a chance against Canelo coming up from weight to meet him? The Ginge beat almost everybody going up in weight. I get the fantasy though.
Crawford vs. Tszyu next for unified belts would be lovely :D
I don't like champions being stripped but I really enjoy it when all 4 titles become vacant
The division gets moving again
The top fighters fight each other for the vacant titles
& the other top contenders face off in eliminators :cool:
I can watch Eubank Jr and Bud. It's not bad, but worthy of a looksee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
The Ginge is giving me a bullshit vibe these days. Ducking Benavidez and getting his ass beat against Bivol does not cause me to rate Canelo as highly as I did in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
from what i've heard the winner of timmy v sebastian has five days to enter negotiations to fight bud. timmy's team has said they want to be back in the ring in june, obviously pending an injury free win over sebastian. the winner of timmy v sebastian will have one hundred & eighty days to fight budQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Is that sufficient time to publise such a huge mega super fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by TICfrom what i've heard the winner of timmy v sebastian has five days to enter negotiations to fight bud. timmy's team has said they want to be back in the ring in june, obviously pending an injury free win over sebastian. the winner of timmy v sebastian will have one hundred & eighty days to fight budQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Hope it can be made and all is forgiven to Crawford if he takes on this challenge. I think he will be the underdog if he faces Tim.
terence has fifteen knockdowns & twelve knockouts in his last twelve fights. can he keep this knockout streak going against israil madrimov?
Random and it seems to have had little reaction, but Benevidez recently said that Turki aka the Saudi bankroll had mentioned a possible Aug Crawford match and proposed it to David...if he could make 160 :cwm13:. No such request when wanting Bud v Canelo though. And unless I've missed it no one is disputing it? Now with Ortiz v Tszyu on the undercard of Crawford v Madrimov and two belts on the line we may very well see winners meet up!
Did I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Not really followed this guy much but just checked his record. One fight a year since 2019. Wow. But maybe that's typical these days and going to be the norm.
What's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
Feels like activity in general is ticking up for top fighters. But when he takes the ring in August I'm pretty sure he's the most inactive fighter among whatever p4p ranks we look at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
This is the negative side of the Saudi influence in Boxing. I don’t particularly think Türki is learning the shifty side. I just think that:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
1. He’s showing his ignorance and lack of actual knowledge about the sport and its participants. Benavidez hasn’t weighed 160lb since he was 11 years old. When he was a teenager, before he got into boxing, he weighed 250lbs . So how realistic is 160lb ?
2. He believes money can buy anything. And he is not dissuaded from that attitude because it is all the promoters care about, they have proved that already. It’s pathetic. I reckon Eddie would give Frank a BJ if Turki threw £20 mill his way. So if Turki wants Crawford v Benavidez at 160, them cunts ain’t never gonna say “nah, impossible.”
I just worry about what happens when Turki gets bored of this little toy he’s playing with.
When Turki gets bored Warren/Eddie will go back to hating, despising and not working with one another.
let's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
It’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
allegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIt’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
Agreed, the majority are so busy sighting "saviors" but there's a slow creep side to this instant and bottomless spending spree too. The fact he's glad handing the heads of the alphabet soup groups but still proposing some real nonstarters without being informed. Like they are just letting him throw anything at the wall to see what sticks. Playing him to a degree. I hate the term but sorta comes off as a huge casual. Fury talking about 10 fight deals and being the first billionaire ffs. And just yesterday Turki puts out Wilder will aim to fight Jared Anderson on the same Aug 3rd card ???. Sure, your first reaction to "big" names is wow alright, let's do it. But we're not looking at the realities of these fights and the fact that fighters who take it seriously put their bodies thru hell for peak performance. I'll go out on a limb and say there is zero chance Wilder fights Zhang (win/lose/whatever) and then turns around in 2 months for another big fight like that. Fighters will always jump at blinding money but all the cash in the world cannot erase damage and years. Just how smart is that? This instant lotto "saving boxing" has a shelf life in that it's not exactly 6 feet deep. Giving Jarrell Miller an instant million dollar turn around id not "saving boxing". Not only do top fighters run risk of developing this lotto expectation every time out but likewise the promoters who have worked together only under a hefty pre-paid price tag here. Find the middle ground, invest in some lighter divisions...big fights are awesome but they also used to be pretty common.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraThis is the negative side of the Saudi influence in Boxing. I don’t particularly think Türki is learning the shifty side. I just think that:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
1. He’s showing his ignorance and lack of actual knowledge about the sport and its participants. Benavidez hasn’t weighed 160lb since he was 11 years old. When he was a teenager, before he got into boxing, he weighed 250lbs . So how realistic is 160lb ?
2. He believes money can buy anything. And he is not dissuaded from that attitude because it is all the promoters care about, they have proved that already. It’s pathetic. I reckon Eddie would give Frank a BJ if Turki threw £20 mill his way. So if Turki wants Crawford v Benavidez at 160, them cunts ain’t never gonna say “nah, impossible.”
I just worry about what happens when Turki gets bored of this little toy he’s playing with.
Haven't seen anyone affiliated on team-Turki disputing a thing though. I bolieve David on this one. I mean Canelo himself flat said he doesn't see benefit of Crawford and he'd be too small and get zero credit. Yet Turki keeps pitching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICallegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIt’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
Mate, I really don’t think Bud has that much clout. He doesn’t have “Floyd type” influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICallegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIt’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
Don’t get me wrong if Benavidez di agree to the fight (which he won’t) Bud wouldn’t say no.
why would turki even care? just seems strange for david b to say "we never got to that point" then the next second "he did mention one opponent"Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliHaven't seen anyone affiliated on team-Turki disputing a thing though. I bolieve David on this one. I mean Canelo himself flat said he doesn't see benefit of Crawford and he'd be too small and get zero credit. Yet Turki keeps pitching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICallegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIt’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
Not another Conspiracy theory! ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TICwhy would turki even care? just seems strange for david b to say "we never got to that point" then the next second "he did mention one opponent"Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliHaven't seen anyone affiliated on team-Turki disputing a thing though. I bolieve David on this one. I mean Canelo himself flat said he doesn't see benefit of Crawford and he'd be too small and get zero credit. Yet Turki keeps pitching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICallegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIt’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
i don't think bud has that much clout either. i'm just questioning if turki really suggested one sixtyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraMate, I really don’t think Bud has that much clout. He doesn’t have “Floyd type” influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICallegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIt’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
Don’t get me wrong if Benavidez di agree to the fight (which he won’t) Bud wouldn’t say no.
No problem believing Turki suggested 160.
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Fair comment. I suppose we haven’t seen him say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICi don't think bud has that much clout either. i'm just questioning if turki really suggested one sixtyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraMate, I really don’t think Bud has that much clout. He doesn’t have “Floyd type” influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICallegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIt’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
Don’t get me wrong if Benavidez di agree to the fight (which he won’t) Bud wouldn’t say no.
no conspiracy theory. team david b have been caught lying about offers made & agreements beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNot another Conspiracy theory! ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TICwhy would turki even care? just seems strange for david b to say "we never got to that point" then the next second "he did mention one opponent"Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliHaven't seen anyone affiliated on team-Turki disputing a thing though. I bolieve David on this one. I mean Canelo himself flat said he doesn't see benefit of Crawford and he'd be too small and get zero credit. Yet Turki keeps pitching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICallegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIt’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
Well because he decided to go there and deluge it? Conversations are ebb and flow like that. Shockingly not every discussed detail of hashing out business dealings between top figures has its own press conference. Even though fanboys on twatter act like it. Take it with a grain of salt or flat dismiss it. But I put nothing passed the politics of boxing and the introduction of a outside figure throwing around multi millions like it was party confetti.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICwhy would turki even care? just seems strange for david b to say "we never got to that point" then the next second "he did mention one opponent"Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliHaven't seen anyone affiliated on team-Turki disputing a thing though. I bolieve David on this one. I mean Canelo himself flat said he doesn't see benefit of Crawford and he'd be too small and get zero credit. Yet Turki keeps pitching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICallegedlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIt’s not Crawford that wants to drain Benavidez, it’s Turki.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIClet's remember that team david b have been caught lying about offers & signed contracts in the past. if it's true then shouldn't we be calling out bud for trying to drain david b?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliWhat's crazy is they would even consider it realistic for him. Maybe Turki is learning to play the shifty side of the sport just like all the others because 160 is a nonstarter for a guy already stated he's going the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDid I read that right? Try to make Benavidez come in at 160? Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://youtu.be/STOG-JpBfMI
I have only heard the Saudi talk about David Benavidez fighting the winner of Beterbiev & Bivol. Wasn't it the Saudi's suggestion that Benavidez move up to 175? He now wants him to come back down to 160 after? Does this Saudi have any idea about cutting weight?