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Do you believe World War 3 is imminent?
Syria is definitely the linchpin. One quarter of my family is from Aleppo Syria from The Armenian City there. Some of my aunt's and third cousins are here in New York explaining the politics to me. I have been to the Syrian border in 2015 and spoken to some refugees in Gaziantep, in Hatay, and in Adana.
I think this might help a little bit but I am still completely confused about al-nusra front and about Hezbollah and about Iranian AL-QUDS Black Ops and about the ypg and it's Kurdish support of other Kurdish groups which compounds the situation with the United States and Russia and Israel and the free Syrian Army and Assad's military in conjunction with ISIS as well as the Turkish military threatening both Russia and the United States whenever it suits their agenda. The situation is so utterly convoluted and confusing and now today this suspect last Sunday suspect last Sunday supposed to chemical attack which everyone is denying carrying out and whichever one is threatening to retaliate for and now today Donald Trump is threatening and has now sent to Destroyers from Cyprus to the coast of Latakia in Northern Syria to Launch dozens of smart shiny new missiles at whoever and Russia has threatened not only to shoot down these missiles this afternoon April 11th 2018 but also to sink and destroy all of the battleships and worships of the United States who launched any missiles into Syria
This is way more complicated than what led to World War 1 and I believe that world war will break out at any moment
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No, we are a long way off.
If world war 3 happens it will because of computers and facebook.
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No I do not believe WW3 is imminent and for a couple reasons.
1. Donald Trump has shown that he'll give Mad Dog Mattis as long of a leash as necessary to end an enemy and nobody wants Mad Dog putting the crosshairs on them.
2. Syria is Russia vs ISIS/Al Qaeda...Asad isn't a great person now, but it's a conflict between 2 bad parties that America shouldn't be involved in. It's like a Heel vs Heel wrestling match...Hulk Hogan ain't running to jump in and save one of the Heels it would make no sense.
3. Each time America tries to pull out there's a gas attack or alleged gas attack....think Asad is really doing that? Think he's in his war room with his generals thinking "Well fellas, America think they are pulling out....we just can't let that happen" it makes no sense he and the Russians would WELCOME America getting out of that conflict.
4. Americans and especially Americans in the service don't want to help ISIS or Al-Qaeda and that's the side we have been on in Syria.
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WWIII ~breaking out~ +++++SOON++++
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Alright so there is a deep state and it has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans. The funny thing is you know Alex Jones was talking about this 15 years ago that it's not about the left or the right it's not about Democrats or Republicans even George Carlin was talking about this 20 years ago saying that it's just all one big Club and that the Democratic and Republican charade or as Alex Jones put it the left-right Paradigm is just there to separate and divide the public so they can squabble over nonsense and pettiness whereas the movers and the Shakers if you want to call them the Illuminati if you want to call them the new world order if you want to call them the Deep State whatever they are the ones who are pulling the strings and calling the shots and I do not think that Donald Trump was supposed to get elected. I truly believe that Hillary Clinton was supposed to win the election because you have every single publication every single online blog every single news organization except for maybe Fox News and Infowars totally lambasting and demonizing and character assassinate Donald Trump since even before he won the election. It looks like every time he wants to get out of Syria is a chemical attack probably pulled off by the new Warhawk and John McCain and the Deep state just to keep the United States in there. The sad thing is that these idiots of the deep state have brainwashed the American public that Donald Trump is the enemy so that the U.S..s. military industrial complex hegemony can remain in place. Trump would be the only one to get us out of that mess and what they have done through complete control of the media is convinced the American public that Trump is some kind of goat to be piled on and humiliated and carted out in shame
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We have already been fighting World War III for 15 years, in my view.
Instead of a war of territory, of Empires and of massed ground troops - it has been a war of polarised ideology.
Neo-liberal Western capitalism versus Wahabbi inspired Islam.
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Neo-liberal Western capitalism versus Wahabbi inspired Islam.
So then the mass migration would indeed be an INVASION rather than a "refugee crisis" by your rational no?
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It’s possibly both, Lyle?
I can easily accept that hundreds of thousands of innocent people have been displaced, horribly treated and want to escape from where they are.
Its also very likely that people like ISIS and Al Quaeda and others have inserted their own fifth columnists into refugee groups as an easy way to enter countries and fight their war on enemy territory.
Im not sure they are all ‘invaders’, but I reckon some are.
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This is serious.
We're in a dangerous time, with warmongers like Bolton itching to press the button.
Russia's UN Ambassador has urged the United States and its allies to refrain from military action against Syria, saying the "immediate priority is to avert the danger of war."
Asked if he was referring to a war between the United States and Russia, Vassily Nebenzia told reporters: "We cannot exclude any possibilities unfortunately because we saw messages that are coming from Washington. They were very bellicose."
Only a fool could be duped into believing that Assad and/or Russia were behind the chemical attack in Syria. The Zionists are trying to provoke a nuclear war. Trump needs to wake up and think of the consequences.
Of course, the old Zionist puppet would never consider going to war over a REAL massacre like this:
Massacre in Gaza as Israeli troops fire on peaceful protesters
At least 18 Palestinians are dead and more than 1700 injured after Israeli forces opened fire on peaceful protesters gathered at the Gaza border fence with southern Israel. The event was timed to mark the anniversary of Land Day, commemorating the 1976 killing of six Palestinians taking part in mass protests against Israel’s confiscation of Palestinian land.
https://socialistactionusa.files.wor...gaza.jpg?w=700
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I'm not going to add much to this thread but if world war 3 was to break out then I am perfectly fine with some fucker pressing the big red button and wiping humanity off the face of the planet.
disgusting species we are, the planet would thrive without us.
If world war 3 wipes us out completely then I'm all for it.
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Russia’s military options to counter US strike in Syria (PHOTOS)
https://www.rt.com/news/423925-russi...defense-syria/
With the US and Russia engaged in a public row over the consequences of a possible American attack against Syria, the capabilities that Moscow has to respond to it are a major question.
Washington threatened military action against the Syrian government in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack in Douma, which incidentally happened exactly a year after the first such America raid against Syria. In April 2017, President Donald Trump was apparently satisfied with a largely symbolic pounding of a Syrian airbase with dozens of Tomahawk missiles.
The current situation appears much tenser, with Russia openly threatening to directly oppose an American attack on Syrian soil. Russia’s determination may be questioned, considering its record of not opposing Israeli raids in Syria, but its capabilities to resist the attack are not in dispute.
https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.04/or...88758b4597.jpg
https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.04/or...d5628b45b0.jpg
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I'm not going to add much to this thread but if world war 3 was to break out then I am perfectly fine with some fucker pressing the big red button and wiping humanity off the face of the planet.
disgusting species we are, the planet would thrive without us.
If world war 3 wipes us out completely then I'm all for it.
The problem with that is, a nuclear war would also wipe out nearly all of the other life on earth. Maybe some deep ocean life would survive, but not much else.
It would take at least 50 million years for the biosphere (already severely damaged by human overpopulation) to recover, for new life forms to evolve to replace the current ones.
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I'm not going to add much to this thread but if world war 3 was to break out then I am perfectly fine with some fucker pressing the big red button and wiping humanity off the face of the planet.
disgusting species we are, the planet would thrive without us.
If world war 3 wipes us out completely then I'm all for it.
The problem with that is, a nuclear war would also wipe out nearly all of the other life on earth. Maybe some deep ocean life would survive, but not much else.
It would take at least 50 million years for the biosphere (already severely damaged by human overpopulation) to recover, for new life forms to evolve to replace the current ones.
It has happened before and can happen again.
Anyway Russia are no match for NATO.
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I've read where Mattis doesn't believe there was a chemical attack and also I've read where Theresa May doesn't believe a chemical attack happened and say what you will about President Trump he's been very cagey, very clever in how he has handled foreign policy he's rattled the saber a couple of times, he's even struck fast and hard before so other leaders know he's not fucking around. It's my belief that President Trump wants us out of Syria and the white hats in Syria want us to stay and help them....there is no "good side" of this war to be on so being on the side of "let's not even bother" is seeming like the best choice for OUR nation.
Assad sucks but he's Russia's boy, the guys he's fighting against are Al Qaeda and ISIS....they ain't our friends and if we arm them they'll still want to kill us so fuck them.
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I'm not going to add much to this thread but if world war 3 was to break out then I am perfectly fine with some fucker pressing the big red button and wiping humanity off the face of the planet.
disgusting species we are, the planet would thrive without us.
If world war 3 wipes us out completely then I'm all for it.
@Batman has said exactly what I also believe. Wipe Humanity off the face of the Earth. It is definitely a disgusting species and the planet would be much better without it. People think human beings are so special as if we are higher in some way than animals are. People think their children are so great. People think their parents are so great. What a sickening self centered view of reality. no one cares about you and no one cares about your parents and no one believe me no one cares about your children. Nor should they. That's why I hate religion so much at least one of the reasons I hate it. It teaches people that we are somehow higher and more holy then animals. F*** religions is a crock of s***. We are no different than animals because we are animals. When did humans think that suddenly they were not animals anymore? Just because they can write Symphonies? Just because they can build satellites? It didn't change anything because we are still animals and we are governed by hunger and thirst and desire and we made a piss poor attempt over the past 2000 years or let's say 4000 years and even eliminate our instinctual animalistic desires. Wipe this whole place out now. @Gandalf. Wipe the place clean.
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Have to think we've been there for quite some time now. Non conventional sides and alliances rotating constantly. To state the obvious, it's a shitty situation with no real answers and as I see it no clear definitive leadership. I truly hope Trump has positioned his administration to give clear experienced and free to speak truth to power. More importantly I hope he seeks and receives it as a leader not of a base or a talking point but the leader of this Republic. As of now he appears quite contradictory and needs to cease making this, or any military action, an act of popular opinion polls and winging it with feints and tough guy bs talk via grade school tweet fest. FFS turn off the cable networks and listen to men and women who have been to war and actual individuals brought in for that exact purpose. Everything I've seen on May indicates she fully believes Assad was behind it to the point of possibly acting without parliamentary consent. And that's the closest I'll go to pretending to know her Governments inner dealings. We need clarity and one firm voice in times of conflict and we are very much at that point. "Lets wait and see" does not instill confidence. Too many games being played by the ones in power on all fronts.
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Anyway Russia are no match for NATO.
True as far as conventional weapons are concerned, but they do have a lot of very powerful nukes, more than enough to kill us all.
And a Russia-China alliance with conventional weapons is a match for NATO, in fact is probably stronger in the long run. We shouldn't underestimate the power of China, let's not forget the USA and Western Europe have lost their manufacturing capability.
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Anyway Russia are no match for NATO.
True as far as conventional weapons are concerned, but they do have a lot of very powerful nukes, more than enough to kill us all.
And a Russia-China alliance with conventional weapons is a match for NATO, in fact is probably stronger in the long run. We shouldn't underestimate the power of China, let's not forget the USA and Western Europe have lost their manufacturing capability.
Russia and China alliance? Crazier things have happened.
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Anyway Russia are no match for NATO.
True as far as conventional weapons are concerned, but they do have a lot of very powerful nukes, more than enough to kill us all.
And a Russia-China alliance with conventional weapons is a match for NATO, in fact is probably stronger in the long run. We shouldn't underestimate the power of China, let's not forget the USA and Western Europe have lost their manufacturing capability.
Russia and China alliance? Crazier things have happened.
Russia and China have been forming a military alliance. It's said, in the economist anyway, China doesn't have full trust in Russia but it's a convenient hedge against the US. China trying to shake off the petrol dollar is another anti western move
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Anyway Russia are no match for NATO.
True as far as conventional weapons are concerned, but they do have a lot of very powerful nukes, more than enough to kill us all.
And a Russia-China alliance with conventional weapons is a match for NATO, in fact is probably stronger in the long run. We shouldn't underestimate the power of China, let's not forget the USA and Western Europe have lost their manufacturing capability.
Russia and China alliance? Crazier things have happened.
Russia and China have been forming a military alliance. It's said, in the economist anyway, China doesn't have full trust in Russia but it's a convenient hedge against the US. China trying to shake off the petrol dollar is another anti western move
We should be moving to electric cars anyway. :)
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*****bombs away*****
Well it looks like the War Hawks in the Neocons and the Deep State have gotten to Trump and have forced him to launch this attack or they will release damning information about him or maybe even assassinate him if he doesn't go along with this
Let's see if Russia lives up to its word
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Wow! What a crock of shit. He couldn't wait. Nobody forced him he is not your friend. He thinks he has God on his side like most despots.
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Merged. Pro Tip..it's not necessary to start a new thread every time a random though pops in your head :thumb:
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The cult of paranoia. Phrases like "the nations of the world can be judged by the friends they keep" and then calling Saudi Arabia etc friends. Phrases like "we and our allies have Marshalled our righteous power '
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The cult of paranoia. Phrases like "the nations of the world can be judged by the friends they keep" and then calling Saudi Arabia etc friends. Phrases like "we and our allies have Marshalled our righteous power '
Trump is really talking shit here, its been the USA who killed millions in Iraq for example, and yet he acts like 70 killed by chlorine barrel bombs is a worse thing. Bolton came in last Friday night The War Hawk, Trump announces US withdrawal, then 24 hrs later a chemical attack which Israel retaliates against, then this.
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Even if Assad did do the attack which would be deplorable, then how does a nation that is responsible for the deaths of millions have the moral right to do anything? They don't give a hoot about people, so why is this any different. You cannot bomb democracy on people. It is always a manufactured pretext and nobody buys it. Nobody. Yet it happens and come the next election cycle it will be again a competition between who will say they like war the least and then go ahead and bomb anyway. And if it is ever about democracy or helping people then why are you hanging around with the Saudi's? Trump is finished.
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A leader is responsible more for the action of those he himself brings in to serve him than the servants themselves. It falls at his feet. "A prolonged effort until they stop using chemical weapons". They'll stop..you'll leave...rinse and repeat.
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deconfliction protocols create blocks of airspace on an hourly basis. The UK specifically with France has bullied Rusiian SAS sysytems in those deconf zones. It isnt just Trump it is UK and France as well.
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We should be moving to electric cars anyway. :)
Takes too much energy to produce and run those.....yes as opposed to a fossil fuel car.
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Electric cars will never work and neither will wind turbines it's just a bunch of happy horseshit invented by hippies taking silicide mushrooms
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Electric cars will never work and neither will wind turbines it's just a bunch of happy horseshit invented by hippies taking silicide mushrooms
Do you mean psilocybin mushrooms?
I wouldn't imagine that those or DMT or LSD or whatever else would have an effect on the laws of thermodynamics but who knows :dontknow:
Maybe it's that adrenochrome that does it ;)
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We should be moving to electric cars anyway. :)
Takes too much energy to produce and run those.....yes as opposed to a fossil fuel car.
Hybrid cars are very economical and the more affordable they become the more people will move towards them.
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We should be moving to electric cars anyway. :)
Takes too much energy to produce and run those.....yes as opposed to a fossil fuel car.
Hybrid cars are very economical and the more affordable they become the more people will move towards them.
Yeah how's about you do a lil price check on a hybrid car battery and get back to me :-X
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We should be moving to electric cars anyway. :)
Takes too much energy to produce and run those.....yes as opposed to a fossil fuel car.
Hybrid cars are very economical and the more affordable they become the more people will move towards them.
Yeah how's about you do a lil price check on a hybrid car battery and get back to me :-X
Yes they are expensive and do not have a long life span but give it another 5 years or so and they will improve.
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Yes they are expensive and do not have a long life span but give it another 5 years or so and they will improve.
Well I'd hope technology eventually improves but until it does I'm sticking with the old school combustion
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Electric cars will never work and neither will wind turbines it's just a bunch of happy horseshit invented by hippies taking silicide mushrooms
Loads of amazing things have been invented by hippies. There are wind turbines all over the world and just because you deny reality it will not stop it happening. Everybody you disagree with is not on drugs.
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Electric cars will never work and neither will wind turbines it's just a bunch of happy horseshit invented by hippies taking silicide mushrooms
Loads of amazing things have been invented by hippies. There are wind turbines all over the world and just because you deny reality it will not stop it happening. Everybody you disagree with is not on drugs.
sure they are, or they get EST across the dorsal basal ganglia twice a month.
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Electric cars will never work and neither will wind turbines it's just a bunch of happy horseshit invented by hippies taking silicide mushrooms
Loads of amazing things have been invented by hippies. There are wind turbines all over the world and just because you deny reality it will not stop it happening. Everybody you disagree with is not on drugs.
sure they are, or they get EST across the dorsal basal ganglia twice a month.
What do you mean by that?
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It means sure they are all on drugs who disagree with me unless they get electroshock therapy.