Has Winky Wright only lost 1 fight legitimately
I haven't seen the Simon fight, but on Jim Boogie's thread it appears that Wright got the wrong end of a hometown decision in that one.
He was definitely raped by the judges against Vargas, so by that rational he has only lost to Julio Cesar Vasquez
Pretty impressive record :-\
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Who the fwock is this JimBoogie?
Sounds like a bit of a monster! :o
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Who the fwock is this JimBoogie?
Sounds like a bit of a monster! :o
Freinds with TheBoogieMan, The Grinch an a couple of others ;)
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I haven't seen the Simon fight, but on Jim Boogie's thread it appears that Wright got the wrong end of a hometown decision in that one.
He was definitely raped by the judges against Vargas, so by that rational he has only lost to Julio Cesar Vasquez
Pretty impressive record :-\
yea only guy to beat him is that guy that floored him 5 times so really if wright would of had things his way he would of only lost 1 fight but even with 5 knockdowns look at the scores
110-115 | Judge: Ove Ovesen 110-114 | Judge: Marcial Vargas 110-113
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The Harry Simon fight was a tight one , you really couldnt argue with. The vargas fight was a bad verdict, Wright won it by 4 rds
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Simon could have gone either way. I haven't actually scored the fight but it was a tight fight. It was Simon's first fight back in Africa but I don't think the decision was to shady. Really was a close fight. Winky really was a different fighter back then though. The Vargas fight was a ripoff. He won that fight going away. 2 rounds at the very least. Most of the rounds were onesided and most of the time it was in favor of Wright. How they gave some of those rounds to Vargas should have been investigated.
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That Vasquez fight IMO was also wrong... Sure he was knocked down a few times, but he won virtually every other round.
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Some of the 10-8 rounds in the Vasquez fight could have been made 9-8
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Some of the 10-8 rounds in the Vasquez fight could have been made 9-8
It would actually make it 10-9, but I am just re-downloading the fight, but it usually has to be a very decisive round for the person who was knocked down to get a 10-9 round out of the judges.
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He was knocked down 5 times in the Vazquez fight. And contrary to internet myth from people who didn't see the fight they weren't all "slips." He was badly hurt by some of them and stunned by others.
I don't mind making a round 10-9 even with a knockdown, I do it a lot more than judges do, but most of those were hard to call 10-9, Winky might have won the rounds except for the knockdown but he didn't totally dominate them. If you gave Vasquez credit for all the knockdowns there's no mathematical possibility that Winky could have won. You really would have had to been very liberal with your scoring to give Winky the fight. It was clearly a legitimate loss. But that was really a different Winky, he settled down as he got older, a prime Winky would have had no problems, even though Vazquez was a solid fighter.
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He was knocked down 5 times in the Vazquez fight. And contrary to internet myth from people who didn't see the fight they weren't all "slips." He was badly hurt by some of them and stunned by others.
I don't mind making a round 10-9 even with a knockdown, I do it a lot more than judges do, but most of those were hard to call 10-9, Winky might have won the rounds except for the knockdown but he didn't totally dominate them. If you gave Vasquez credit for all the knockdowns there's no mathematical possibility that Winky could have won. You really would have had to been very liberal with your scoring to give Winky the fight. It was clearly a legitimate loss. But that was really a different Winky, he settled down as he got older, a prime Winky would have had no problems, even though Vazquez was a solid fighter.
Didn't he get knocked down 3 times in one round? at least I thought so anyways if that was the case then the most points he lost would be 5 if the other two times he was knocked down counted as 10-8 rounds. Thats five points, but if he wins 9 rounds its still 113-111
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2 of those where slips, 2-3 were legit.
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He was knocked down 5 times in the Vazquez fight. And contrary to internet myth from people who didn't see the fight they weren't all "slips." He was badly hurt by some of them and stunned by others.
I don't mind making a round 10-9 even with a knockdown, I do it a lot more than judges do, but most of those were hard to call 10-9, Winky might have won the rounds except for the knockdown but he didn't totally dominate them. If you gave Vasquez credit for all the knockdowns there's no mathematical possibility that Winky could have won. You really would have had to been very liberal with your scoring to give Winky the fight. It was clearly a legitimate loss. But that was really a different Winky, he settled down as he got older, a prime Winky would have had no problems, even though Vazquez was a solid fighter.
Didn't he get knocked down 3 times in one round? at least I thought so anyways if that was the case then the most points he lost would be 5 if the other two times he was knocked down counted as 10-8 rounds. Thats five points, but if he wins 9 rounds its still 113-111
I thought it was twice in one round and then once in three others? I could be wrong, its been a couple years, I don't have it downloaded onto my new computer.
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maybe I can't remember either... Anyways I always scored it a draw so it may have been the way you say.. 112-112 ish because I thought one of the knockdown rounds for sure was 10-9. Also though other rounds were close I don't believe Vasquez won any of them.
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I agree although the losses were close,Wright could have decisions in them all EXCEPT the Vasquez fight,I don't think Wright won that but he has a different style back then. A great fighter though and has worked soo hard to get where he is so deserves respect.
You guys think anyone can beat Winky? JT in a rematch? Miranda? Abraham mught be a tough fight because of the styles maybe? Calzaghe?