Joe Cortez was overrated as a REf!
He sucked in reality. He seemed to slow and had some dodgy stoppages.
Randy Neuman was a dumbass too. Norman "Stoney" Stone was right to rail off on him during the Ruiz and Golota fight.
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When Nigel Benn fought Mauro Galvano in Italy he was going to get ripped off by the Italians and lose his challenge for the title. Benn cut Galvano with a punch during the contest but the Italians were claiming it was a head-butt.
Cortez stood his ground to the intimidation and said that Benn had caused the cut by a punch and it was a legitimate stoppage and should have the title.
Cortez was excellent in that fight.
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Do people rate him highly? He has never been very good
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In general, the quality of referees began to go down hill as referees developed their own catch phrases and such. They started to think that they were part of the show, that people came to see them.
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In general, the quality of referees began to go down hill as referees developed their own catch phrases and such. They started to think that they were part of the show, that people came to see them.
Except firm but fair Mills Lane who was on the whole very good.
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Agree, anytime you have a referee standing between the two fighters saying " I'M firm but I'M fair" you know he'll be looking for the cameras to get his cameos. It's not about you ref and we prefer you invisible. Mercante Jr the same way. Major league unofficial 3rd participant who no one paid to see.
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When Nigel Benn fought Mauro Galvano in Italy he was going to get ripped off by the Italians and lose his challenge for the title. Benn cut Galvano with a punch during the contest but the Italians were claiming it was a head-butt.
Cortez stood his ground to the intimidation and said that Benn had caused the cut by a punch and it was a legitimate stoppage and should have the title.
Cortez was excellent in that fight.
Oh yeah, cos the baddie boy Italian and his gang of thugs were gonna rip Benn off. Angelo Dundee cuts Ali’s glove and he’s the cleverest cunt in Boxing!
Never had any Brits cheat have we? Fucking Racist! ;)
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Mills Lane was a legend.
Let’s get it on
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The best referees are the ones you don't notice are there...i don't like the glory hounds, sticking their nose in where it isn't warranted. Let them fight i say!
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I've said this before but Mills Lane had a terrible terrible habit of putting his hands on fighters without calling break. Constantly trying to rip one fighters arm from a clinch, essentially making them defenceless on one side. I hated him doing that, dangerous and stupid.
The referee should be as invisible as possible, but they're not. As mentioned they have their own catchphrases, there's footage of them prefight talking to fighters, we have graphics on screen telling us their notable assignments (not sure if that still happens to be honest). They have a very important job but lets not promote it to equal billing with the fighters.
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I've said this before but Mills Lane had a terrible terrible habit of putting his hands on fighters without calling break. Constantly trying to rip one fighters arm from a clinch, essentially making them defenceless on one side. I hated him doing that, dangerous and stupid.
The referee should be as invisible as possible, but they're not. As mentioned they have their own catchphrases, there's footage of them prefight talking to fighters, we have graphics on screen telling us their notable assignments (not sure if that still happens to be honest). They have a very important job but lets not promote it to equal billing with the fighters.
Mills used to smack you so hard on your bicep. Hard to not take notice.In hindsight, Bayless was a bit of a Hollywood Ref too. Overrated in many respects.
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When Nigel Benn fought Mauro Galvano in Italy he was going to get ripped off by the Italians and lose his challenge for the title. Benn cut Galvano with a punch during the contest but the Italians were claiming it was a head-butt.
Cortez stood his ground to the intimidation and said that Benn had caused the cut by a punch and it was a legitimate stoppage and should have the title.
Cortez was excellent in that fight.
Oh yeah, cos the baddie boy Italian and his gang of thugs were gonna rip Benn off. Angelo Dundee cuts Ali’s glove and he’s the cleverest cunt in Boxing!
Never had any Brits cheat have we? Fucking Racist! ;)
Herol Graham knocked down Kalambay twice clearly outpointing him and being robbed. I never forget.
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Master
When Nigel Benn fought Mauro Galvano in Italy he was going to get ripped off by the Italians and lose his challenge for the title. Benn cut Galvano with a punch during the contest but the Italians were claiming it was a head-butt.
Cortez stood his ground to the intimidation and said that Benn had caused the cut by a punch and it was a legitimate stoppage and should have the title.
Cortez was excellent in that fight.
Oh yeah, cos the baddie boy Italian and his gang of thugs were gonna rip Benn off. Angelo Dundee cuts Ali’s glove and he’s the cleverest cunt in Boxing!
Never had any Brits cheat have we? Fucking Racist! ;)
Herol Graham knocked down Kalambay twice clearly outpointing him and being robbed. I never forget.
Don’t make me talk negatively about Graham because he’s one of my all time faves, but Kalambay beat Graham fair and square in the U.K. Without an Italian Judge in site.
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Primo Carnera
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Master
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Primo Carnera
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Master
When Nigel Benn fought Mauro Galvano in Italy he was going to get ripped off by the Italians and lose his challenge for the title. Benn cut Galvano with a punch during the contest but the Italians were claiming it was a head-butt.
Cortez stood his ground to the intimidation and said that Benn had caused the cut by a punch and it was a legitimate stoppage and should have the title.
Cortez was excellent in that fight.
Oh yeah, cos the baddie boy Italian and his gang of thugs were gonna rip Benn off. Angelo Dundee cuts Ali’s glove and he’s the cleverest cunt in Boxing!
Never had any Brits cheat have we? Fucking Racist! ;)
Herol Graham knocked down Kalambay twice clearly outpointing him and being robbed. I never forget.
Don’t make me talk negatively about Graham because he’s one of my all time faves, but Kalambay beat Graham fair and square in the U.K. Without an Italian Judge in site.
The rematch was in italy.
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Primo Carnera
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Master
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Primo Carnera
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Master
When Nigel Benn fought Mauro Galvano in Italy he was going to get ripped off by the Italians and lose his challenge for the title. Benn cut Galvano with a punch during the contest but the Italians were claiming it was a head-butt.
Cortez stood his ground to the intimidation and said that Benn had caused the cut by a punch and it was a legitimate stoppage and should have the title.
Cortez was excellent in that fight.
Oh yeah, cos the baddie boy Italian and his gang of thugs were gonna rip Benn off. Angelo Dundee cuts Ali’s glove and he’s the cleverest cunt in Boxing!
Never had any Brits cheat have we? Fucking Racist! ;)
Herol Graham knocked down Kalambay twice clearly outpointing him and being robbed. I never forget.
Don’t make me talk negatively about Graham because he’s one of my all time faves, but Kalambay beat Graham fair and square in the U.K. Without an Italian Judge in site.
I was on about the rematch which was in italy.