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How good was Rick Hatton?
Britains most popular boxer ever but how good was he really in the ring?
Did we all get caught up in the hype and think he was better than he was?
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He was very good. Tenacious is the first word that comes to mind to describe Hatton. He would have had a tear up with Bradley, but beaten him. And I think he could have gotten to Khan as well. Hatton was a ferocious body puncher and dogmatic pressure fighter with a champion's heart. Those qualities led him to fight above what his talent otherwise would have afforded him to. His only losses are to the very best of the best in Mayweather and Pacquaio, although I think he lost to Collazo as well.
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Lets get this straight. Ricky would have been a 25% better fighter if he didnt ballon up in weight and get fat between fights but he still deserves much respect for having the heart of a lion, a great personality and the balls to fight maywether in his prime, at his weight.
No one can say ricky didnt fight the best but he was never the same after the mayweather fight but that didnt stop him racking up a few wins afterward and now is great promoter!
Being undefeated means nothing if you dont have the balls to step out of your comfort zone and fight the best.
Calzaghe could learn alot from ricky in fighting overseas early and taking more risks!
Either way, they are both great fighters and ricky did the right thing in hanging up the gloves.
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His 2 loses were agains the number 1 boxer in the world at the time.
He could have gone on for many more years if he had wanted but made the right choise to get out when he did.
Also he gave a good 5 or 6 years of great action for British fight fans.
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He beat Tszyu and Mayweather didnt;D
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Hatton was a proven great fighter for his day.
He was good enough to become the lineal lightwelter champion, P4P ranked by America's Ring Magazine, be paid millions by America's HBO TV company and be voted the "fighter of the year" by the boxing writers association of America.
How many foreigners achieve those accolades in America? Exactly. Fact.
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Fenster
Hatton was a proven great fighter for his day.
He was good enough to become the lineal lightwelter champion, P4P ranked by America's Ring Magazine, be paid millions by America's HBO TV company and be voted the "fighter of the year" by the boxing writers association of America.
How many foreigners achieve those accolades in America? Exactly. Fact.
I think Hatton s 4 or 5 years at the top were a miny golden era for British boxing.
Never again will 30000 brits from all parts of the UK go to watch a british boxer in such numbers again.
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porkypara
Britains most popular boxer ever but how good was he really in the ring?
Did we all get caught up in the hype and think he was better than he was?
I don't think you can compare him to any of the world's very best but he was a damn good fighter. Like a lot of pugs, when he stepped up to the elite level he lost, there's no shame in that, I respect Hatton for fighting the best. My guess is Ricky is headed for the IBHOF, not too shabby of a career if you ask me.
P.S. Hatton can laugh all the way to the bank, he made a shitload of coin from boxing.
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Lets get this straight. Ricky would have been a 25% better fighter if he didnt ballon up in weight and get fat between fights but he still deserves much respect for having the heart of a lion, a great personality and the balls to fight maywether in his prime, at his weight.
No one can say ricky didnt fight the best but he was never the same after the mayweather fight but that didnt stop him racking up a few wins afterward and now is great promoter!
Being undefeated means nothing if you dont have the balls to step out of your comfort zone and fight the best.
Calzaghe could learn alot from ricky in fighting overseas early and taking more risks!
Either way, they are both great fighters and ricky did the right thing in hanging up the gloves.
Agreed. He didn't get the nickname 'Fatton' for nothing. He was a very good fighter, he just didn't help himself as much as he could've.
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I really liked Hatton as a fighter. For a 3 to 4 year period, when he was at his peak of talent and hungry, he was a fuckin bulldog. If Mayweather and Pac are great then Hatton is a top of the level below Great in the last 20 years at 140lbs. That was his best weight. Not so much 147. A bulldog at 140.
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He wasnt very good. Ricky was just a contender level fighter.
Only reason he was so popular was because of his charisma and frank warrens promoting ability.
ricky hatton was a boring fighter and he wasnt that good.
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I think Hatton was a good fighter, but probably not as good as his loyal legions of fans thought him out to be. I think he had his moment in the sun at 140, and I think he got the benefit of a lot of factors coming together that night in England against Kostya. I also seriously think it was his popularity, as much as anything, that got him the fights against Mayweather and Pacquiao, and the disparity in talent was completely evident.
He's a very likable, down-to-Earth guy, which helped his popularity in his home country. But as soon as he started claiming to be fighting for the world's p4p against Pacquaio, he needed a "bring-him-back-down-to-Earth" moment. Pacquiao provided that moment.
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Well. Let's just put it this way. Great in UK. Not so great in US.
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Psl made a good point.. Americans dont think twice about hatton.
To americans..... Ricky hatton, Carlos Baldomir...... Same shit. Of lets not forget about juan urango and ponce deleon... They are all on the same league..
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A very very, very good fighter - brave, courageous and went for it. Knocked on the door of the elite but didn't have enough to get in.
I remember when the Mayweather fight was announced I reckoned he had a 30 % chance of winning. I was lucky enough to get a ticket however and by the time I had spent three days in Vegas surrounded by crazy fellow Brits (and that crazy weigh in !) I was 100% certain he was going to win by the time the bell rang. In fact I couldn't see Mayweather surviving the first round ! ;D Seriously thats how I felt !
I can't see any other Brit in the future having that kind of support overseas. He is probably second to Big Frank in terms of most popular British fighter ever (then 'Enry).
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He had an unusual very up close constant pressure style. Not very pretty but very effective. He had great power from the clinch and just coming out of the clinch. You could hit him well and he would still be on top of you. He was close the majority of the time so hard to hit and he had a hell of an engine on him. He was a good fighter because of this.
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FinitoElDinamita
Psl made a good point.. Americans dont think twice about hatton.
To americans..... Ricky hatton, Carlos Baldomir...... Same shit. Of lets not forget about juan urango and ponce deleon... They are all on the same league..
Did Baldomir win the American writers "fighter of the year" award? Was Baldomir P4P rated by the American publication The Ring? Did the American TV company HBO sign Baldomir to multi-million pound contracts?
American's don't think twice about Hatton... they just gave him all their awards and money. Fact.
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He was a good fighter that was too much of a nice guy and it started to show when he fought Mayweather.
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FinitoElDinamita
Psl made a good point.. Americans dont think twice about hatton.
To americans..... Ricky hatton, Carlos Baldomir...... Same shit. Of lets not forget about juan urango and ponce deleon... They are all on the same league..
Did Baldomir win the
American writers "fighter of the year" award? Was Baldomir P4P rated by the
American publication The Ring? Did the
American TV company HBO sign Baldomir to multi-million pound contracts?
American's don't think twice about Hatton... they just gave him all their
awards and money. Fact.
Great points made by Fenster. Unfortunately you will always get haters regardless.
Im really suprised VD has not chipped in yet with his :twocents:
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He was a lion with great footwork and a huge workrate. His body punching and ability to fight on the inside meant a lot of his fights became wars and people mistake this for brawling and having no boxing ability. He threw his shots correctly and had a great instinct for knowing when a guy was hurt and how to finish him.Most importantly he was a great servant to boxing on both sides of the pond. The much derided casual fans are vital for the survival of the sport and fighters like Ricky drew them in great numbers. Boxing is also about entertainment and he was both in and out of the ring great value in this capacity. I loved him, in the UK he was the public face of the sport we all follow and his fights enhanced the reputation of British boxing around the world.
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I was in a bar in tenerife with a mate watching the Hatton Tszyu fight surrounded by loads of Manchester lads wearing sombreros, it was a quality night. With hind sight that fight did maybe flatter Hatton a bit as Tszyu hadn't been the most active fighter but he was still very very dangerous. Hatton did perhaps get everything his own way that night.
I'd say Hatton was very very good. A level below the likes of PBF/Pac/DLH/Mosley/Hopkins etc but that's still impressive.
Even Mayweather has said he respects Ricky Hatton for actually coming to fight and not just survive. Ricky could have fought differently against both Pac and Floyd and lasted the distance which might have got him more respect in America (possibly) but the I reckon us Brits respect him for taking the fight to them.
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Wat a joke?!? hatton only fell short against the two best (then and now) p4p on the planet, hatton always chased the best and gav it 110% he also produced a number of great fights and ko's so i dunno how he can be cosidered boaring?? Ok he was a piss can out the ring and probley fell short of elite because of it, but even so i think hatton had a great career and should recieve respect. For it!!
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He wasnt very good. Ricky was just a contender level fighter.
Only reason he was so popular was because of his charisma and frank warrens promoting ability.
ricky hatton was a boring fighter and he wasnt that good.
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Fenster
Hatton was a proven great fighter for his day.
He was good enough to become the lineal lightwelter champion, P4P ranked by America's Ring Magazine, be paid millions by America's HBO TV company and be voted the "fighter of the year" by the boxing writers association of America.
How many foreigners achieve those accolades in America? Exactly. Fact.
Ricky Hatton was a very good fighter. If he makes it to the Hall of Fame it will be because of his international popularity as Fenster pointed out above, not his in-ring accomplishments. Boiled to its core, his career proved that he was a solid single division fighter, as evidenced by the lineal super lightweight belt he gained for beating Kosta Tszyu. He missed a couple of good junior welterweights in Miguel Cotto and Junior Witter. He also defended his title against a few good boxers in Juan Urango, Carlos Maussa and Paulie Malignaggi. He lost when he stepped up to the elite, ATG great level against Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather. Measured against other recent British greats, I would put him below Lennox Lewis, Joe Calzaghe and probably Amir Khan, depending on how his career develops.
I admire Ricky Hatton for going out on his shield, for daring to be great, even if he fell a tad bit short.
Here's a good summary of Ricky Hatton's career as measured against all time: Measured Against All Time - Ricky Hatton - Boxing News
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Ricky could be rated higher than Joe Galzaghe, because he did not wait too long with Warren, who would have been happy for Ricky to defend his IBO title against journeyman fighters and make shed loads of money. There is no Sven Ottke in Ricky’s closet, Witter does not count and Cotto moved up in weight to allow the fight from coming off. Ricky took risks going up to welterweight and Joe did not until very late in his career. If Ricky manoeuvred his career more cautiously he could have retired undefeated too
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Hattons skill level was no were near Calzaghes to be honest the best fighter to come out of the Uk beside Lennox Lewis. Hatton resume i think is worse then Calzaghes i mean Kt is no Bernard Hopkins.
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Ricky could be rated higher than Joe Galzaghe, because he did not wait too long with Warren, who would have been happy for Ricky to defend his IBO title against journeyman fighters and make shed loads of money. There is no Sven Ottke in Ricky’s closet, Witter does not count and Cotto moved up in weight to allow the fight from coming off. Ricky took risks going up to welterweight and Joe did not until very late in his career. If Ricky manoeuvred his career more cautiously he could have retired undefeated too
I don't agree with a single thing you said there aside from the fact that Hatton jumped ship with Warren, which is indeed to his credit. Hatton was very good, but nowhere near as good as Calzaghe, nor did he achieve as much even despite much better management. You could easily assume that if Calzaghe had Hatton's marketability(why he didn't is beyond me), he would have also retired with a much higher profile in America. For Hatton to have retired undefeated he would've clearly had to avoid Mayweather and Pacquiao. Had he not fought those two men, even despite losing so badly, his legacy would pale even moreso in comparison with Calzaghes. It would have been no different than had Calzaghe not fought Kessler and Hopkins. Instead, the difference is that Joe won those fights;)
And to say that there is no Sven Ottke in Ricky's closet, and that Witter doesn't count is purely ludicrous. Witter was MUCH more of a threat to Hatton and a much more lucrative fight than Ottke to Calzaghe, obviously. That would have been easy as hell to make in the UK and Hatton could have taken almost the whole purse.
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FinitoElDinamita
Psl made a good point.. Americans dont think twice about hatton.
To americans..... Ricky hatton, Carlos Baldomir...... Same shit. Of lets not forget about juan urango and ponce deleon... They are all on the same league..
Did Baldomir win the
American writers "fighter of the year" award? Was Baldomir P4P rated by the
American publication The Ring? Did the
American TV company HBO sign Baldomir to multi-million pound contracts?
American's don't think twice about Hatton... they just gave him all their
awards and money. Fact.
Great points made by Fenster. Unfortunately you will always get haters regardless.
Im really suprised VD has not chipped in yet with his :twocents:
He already has. ;)
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Ricky could be rated higher than Joe Galzaghe, because he did not wait too long with Warren, who would have been happy for Ricky to defend his IBO title against journeyman fighters and make shed loads of money. There is no Sven Ottke in Ricky’s closet, Witter does not count and Cotto moved up in weight to allow the fight from coming off. Ricky took risks going up to welterweight and Joe did not until very late in his career. If Ricky manoeuvred his career more cautiously he could have retired undefeated too
I don't agree with a single thing you said there aside from the fact that Hatton jumped ship with Warren, which is indeed to his credit. Hatton was very good, but nowhere near as good as Calzaghe, nor did he achieve as much even despite much better management. You could easily assume that if Calzaghe had Hatton's marketability(why he didn't is beyond me), he would have also retired with a much higher profile in America. For Hatton to have retired undefeated he would've clearly had to avoid Mayweather and Pacquiao. Had he not fought those two men, even despite losing so badly, his legacy would pale even moreso in comparison with Calzaghes. It would have been no different than had Calzaghe not fought Kessler and Hopkins. Instead, the difference is that Joe won those fights;)
And to say that there is no Sven Ottke in Ricky's closet, and that Witter doesn't count is purely ludicrous. Witter was MUCH more of a threat to Hatton and a much more lucrative fight than Ottke to Calzaghe, obviously. That would have been easy as hell to make in the UK and Hatton could have taken almost the whole purse.
Apparently Warren had quite a lot of profile raising offers which he presented to Calzaghe, but Calzaghe didn't want them. I think in his book, Joe said that it either never interested him or he didn't have the confidence to go through with stuff like that.
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Ricky could be rated higher than Joe Galzaghe, because he did not wait too long with Warren, who would have been happy for Ricky to defend his IBO title against journeyman fighters and make shed loads of money. There is no Sven Ottke in Ricky’s closet, Witter does not count and Cotto moved up in weight to allow the fight from coming off. Ricky took risks going up to welterweight and Joe did not until very late in his career. If Ricky manoeuvred his career more cautiously he could have retired undefeated too
I don't agree with a single thing you said there aside from the fact that Hatton jumped ship with Warren, which is indeed to his credit. Hatton was very good, but nowhere near as good as Calzaghe, nor did he achieve as much even despite much better management. You could easily assume that if Calzaghe had Hatton's marketability(why he didn't is beyond me), he would have also retired with a much higher profile in America. For Hatton to have retired undefeated he would've clearly had to avoid Mayweather and Pacquiao. Had he not fought those two men, even despite losing so badly, his legacy would pale even moreso in comparison with Calzaghes. It would have been no different than had Calzaghe not fought Kessler and Hopkins. Instead, the difference is that Joe won those fights;)
And to say that there is no Sven Ottke in Ricky's closet, and that Witter doesn't count is purely ludicrous. Witter was MUCH more of a threat to Hatton and a much more lucrative fight than Ottke to Calzaghe, obviously. That would have been easy as hell to make in the UK and Hatton could have taken almost the whole purse.
Apparently Warren had quite a lot of profile raising offers which he presented to Calzaghe, but Calzaghe didn't want them. I think in his book, Joe said that it either never interested him or he didn't have the confidence to go through with stuff like that.
Ricky Hatton beat a great champion in Kostya on a great night for British boxing. Joe beat Eubanks at short notice and then fought poor fighters for 10 years. Ricky unified some of the titles where possible including a weight up, Joe fought his mandatory’s and Ottke’s left overs never really taking a chance until the end of his career.
Ricky did not have to fight Floyd at welterweight, especially after struggling at the weight but he took the chance. Joe was very good but Ricky should not be punished for taking on the best and coming short. Would you want to see Ricky v Floyd or Pac Man than Witter? No chance.
Joe would have beaten Ottke but did not take the chance, Joe may have lost to Roy Jones at light heavy but never took the opportunity.
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Ricky with all his fights still does not have the same amount of good wins that Calzaghe has. I mean Bernard beats out anything Hatton has. Then you have Kessler which is better then anything Ricky besides his win over kt. I mean say what you want about Calzaghe but he was far more skilled. Also has better wins under his belt Jones was Lhw and no one was travling either way dont blame him much. Anyhow there is no real thing that Hatton has over Calzaghe when it comes to the record books.
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Ricky could be rated higher than Joe Galzaghe, because he did not wait too long with Warren, who would have been happy for Ricky to defend his IBO title against journeyman fighters and make shed loads of money. There is no Sven Ottke in Ricky’s closet, Witter does not count and Cotto moved up in weight to allow the fight from coming off. Ricky took risks going up to welterweight and Joe did not until very late in his career. If Ricky manoeuvred his career more cautiously he could have retired undefeated too
I don't agree with a single thing you said there aside from the fact that Hatton jumped ship with Warren, which is indeed to his credit. Hatton was very good, but nowhere near as good as Calzaghe, nor did he achieve as much even despite much better management. You could easily assume that if Calzaghe had Hatton's marketability(why he didn't is beyond me), he would have also retired with a much higher profile in America. For Hatton to have retired undefeated he would've clearly had to avoid Mayweather and Pacquiao. Had he not fought those two men, even despite losing so badly, his legacy would pale even moreso in comparison with Calzaghes. It would have been no different than had Calzaghe not fought Kessler and Hopkins. Instead, the difference is that Joe won those fights;)
And to say that there is no Sven Ottke in Ricky's closet, and that Witter doesn't count is purely ludicrous. Witter was MUCH more of a threat to Hatton and a much more lucrative fight than Ottke to Calzaghe, obviously. That would have been easy as hell to make in the UK and Hatton could have taken almost the whole purse.
Apparently Warren had quite a lot of profile raising offers which he presented to Calzaghe, but Calzaghe didn't want them. I think in his book, Joe said that it either never interested him or he didn't have the confidence to go through with stuff like that.
Ricky Hatton beat a great champion in Kostya on a great night for British boxing. Joe beat Eubanks at short notice and then fought poor fighters for 10 years. Ricky unified some of the titles where possible including a weight up, Joe fought his mandatory’s and Ottke’s left overs never really taking a chance until the end of his career.
Ricky did not have to fight Floyd at welterweight, especially after struggling at the weight but he took the chance. Joe was very good but Ricky should not be punished for taking on the best and coming short. Would you want to see Ricky v Floyd or Pac Man than Witter? No chance.
Joe would have beaten Ottke but did not take the chance, Joe may have lost to Roy Jones at light heavy but never took the opportunity.
Calzaghe was more protected and dodged the big fights, instead waiting for those guys to get past their primes (especially jones - that fight was 100% meaningless). I also thought Hopkins won their fight.
But I don't know how you can possibly deny that Calzaghe was just the more talented fighter, both technically and in terms of raw athleticism. Difference in class.
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Ricky was very good.,.,..he lost much of what he had in between fights....Dont cxare who you are you cannot go gaining 40lbs between fights eat horribly and hang in the pub always on occassion OK but Hattom admittedly made a habit of it.....His style of attack attack attack early on did not help.....But was he overrated?....No he lost to the top 2 fighters of this era at their best...nothing to be frowned upon
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porkypara
His 2 loses were agains the number 1 boxer in the world at the time.
He could have gone on for many more years if he had wanted but made the right choise to get out when he did.
Also he gave a good 5 or 6 years of great action for British fight fans.
please don't only point to those losses. I'm a Yank and I enjoyed every his career. But he lost to Collazo. If you don' think he only won that fight because he is the MUCH BIGGER NAME, then you are very naive.
He was very good. I don't agree that he would have beaten Bradley, hands down.
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He was a very good Lt Welter
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FinitoElDinamita
Psl made a good point.. Americans dont think twice about hatton.
To americans..... Ricky hatton, Carlos Baldomir...... Same shit. Of lets not forget about juan urango and ponce deleon... They are all on the same league..
I've been to Vegas alot of times now fights and holidays and you speak to Americans and they always mention Ricky Hatton, most of them say he was a hell of a fighter!
When Hatton fought Mayweather if you could find an American in vegas that weekend lol, they all knew who Hatton was and almost every1 wanted him to win.
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Ricky could be rated higher than Joe Galzaghe, because he did not wait too long with Warren, who would have been happy for Ricky to defend his IBO title against journeyman fighters and make shed loads of money. There is no Sven Ottke in Ricky’s closet, Witter does not count and Cotto moved up in weight to allow the fight from coming off. Ricky took risks going up to welterweight and Joe did not until very late in his career. If Ricky manoeuvred his career more cautiously he could have retired undefeated too
I don't agree with a single thing you said there aside from the fact that Hatton jumped ship with Warren, which is indeed to his credit. Hatton was very good, but nowhere near as good as Calzaghe, nor did he achieve as much even despite much better management. You could easily assume that if Calzaghe had Hatton's marketability(why he didn't is beyond me), he would have also retired with a much higher profile in America. For Hatton to have retired undefeated he would've clearly had to avoid Mayweather and Pacquiao. Had he not fought those two men, even despite losing so badly, his legacy would pale even moreso in comparison with Calzaghes. It would have been no different than had Calzaghe not fought Kessler and Hopkins. Instead, the difference is that Joe won those fights;)
And to say that there is no Sven Ottke in Ricky's closet, and that Witter doesn't count is purely ludicrous. Witter was MUCH more of a threat to Hatton and a much more lucrative fight than Ottke to Calzaghe, obviously. That would have been easy as hell to make in the UK and Hatton could have taken almost the whole purse.
Apparently Warren had quite a lot of profile raising offers which he presented to Calzaghe, but Calzaghe didn't want them. I think in his book, Joe said that it either never interested him or he didn't have the confidence to go through with stuff like that.
Ricky Hatton beat a great champion in Kostya on a great night for British boxing. Joe beat Eubanks at short notice and then fought poor fighters for 10 years. Ricky unified some of the titles where possible including a weight up, Joe fought his mandatory’s and Ottke’s left overs never really taking a chance until the end of his career.
Ricky did not have to fight Floyd at welterweight, especially after struggling at the weight but he took the chance. Joe was very good but Ricky should not be punished for taking on the best and coming short. Would you want to see Ricky v Floyd or Pac Man than Witter? No chance.
Joe would have beaten Ottke but did not take the chance, Joe may have lost to Roy Jones at light heavy but never took the opportunity.
Calzaghe was more protected and dodged the big fights, instead waiting for those guys to get past their primes (especially jones - that fight was 100% meaningless). I also thought Hopkins won their fight.
But I don't know how you can possibly deny that Calzaghe was just the more talented fighter, both technically and in terms of raw athleticism. Difference in class.
No you are right Joe was more skilled and had a better pedigree. However good his talent he did leave his legacy with many unanswered questions, whereas with Hatton there is little speculation.
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Hatton was very good, just not good enough.
Like @Master just said, at least with Hatton there are no unanswered questions, he pushed and found his limits.
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Hatton was very good, just not good enough.
Like @
Master just said, at least with Hatton there are no unanswered questions, he pushed and found his limits.
Whereas Joe left us with a lot of unanswered questions.
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I hate when people say he only lost to the best he never fought everyone he should have Witter, Bradley, Holt he avoided fast fighters until he fought Maywaether and Pac