Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Go ahead and hype up the Audley Slayer, but just be warned when you start talking Klitschko's it's a different world. Wlad or Vitali will actually throw punches....and from the looks of their KO percentages once those punches start landing I don't think they are going to tickle. But that's just my view, you guys build up this guy all you want, I'm just saying I won't be surprised with the outcome.....should he decide to actually fight a Klitschko brother.
...Audley Harrison, I mean who knew he could be KO'd like that? Round 3 and everything :vd:
And now people say he's got a "good" to "great" chance of beating a Klitschko based on that performance.....you must'a lost your damn minds.
Who? Who said that? Please post this Lyle because its becoming like a Dan Brown book trying to crack your code.
Just about EVERYONE says they favour Wlad and Vitali. A few give Haye a shot but thats something your just going to have to live with Im affraid.
Please find one person who has changed their mind based on the Harrison fight.
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
rjj tszyu
To be honest Lyle, I think Haye vs either Klit would be equally as big. But whichever he beats first would make the second fight into a HUGE spectacle.
I do honestly believe he beats the Klits now too. Vitali is a long way removed from the man who gave Lennox hell and his showing against Johnson and Sosnowski lead me to believe that Haye can take him. As for Wlad we all know what happened the last time he fought someone with good handspeed and power! That is all I have to say on the matter now until the fights get signed!
Sorry if I offend anyone by being so certain that this is a mismatch, but you'll see soon enough.
You handily forgot to bold the reasoning behind it Lyle ;D
Im going to give you that one anyway. You've got one. Find 2 more and You'll have something resembling a point.
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Oh yeah the reasoning matters a lot, he PERCEIVES a slower easier to hit Vitali and chinny Wladimir compared to an incredibly fast and powerful Audley Slayer.....I see something along the lines of 2 true champions scouring the division looking for a challenge and a loud mouth that's just out to line his pockets.
The disparity in class is overwhelming and I guess everyone will just have to wait and see....I already know the outcome
It does if your saying people have changed their mind based on the Harrison fight.........they havent Lyle ;D
Again, just about everyone will pick Wlad or Vitali to beat him, only you will be claiming some kind of prophetic gift when/if it happens.
I know......I know, when it happens.
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
I would actually like to see Vitali fight Haye first as I prefer Vitali out of the two. Vitali is much more fun to watch and would go to war much earlier. That's more my kind of entertainment. Wlad's jab, jab, jab for half a dozen rounds gets a bit boring. Technically it's very good, but Manny Steward needs to slap and shout before we ever get any real excitement.
Bring on Vitali/Haye!
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
I was saying haye would beat Klit before Audley.
Let's face it, The klit fight didn't come off so Haye made alot of easy money fighting someone he knew he'd beat and it keeps the ring rust off. That's what that fight was.
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
If Vitali or Wlad beats Haye, I have a feeling his supporters will come out with many excuses.
Here's a list of them I thought up.
1. Haye was weight drain because the Klits put in a clause that he can only weigh a certain amount.
2. he was distracted because of some event happen prior to the fight.
3. he didn't have his favorite meal before the fight.
4. One of the brothers had loaded gloves.
5. One of them was on PEDs.
6. The ref was on the klits side
7. the klits demanded a small ring so he couldn't maneuver around as much
8. He was under pressure to try to live up to the British crowds expectations.
9. The Klits had a size advantage, so the fight wasn't fair.
10. Haye had some sort of injury that he didn't disclose to the public.
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Oh yeah the reasoning matters a lot, he PERCEIVES a slower easier to hit Vitali and chinny Wladimir compared to an incredibly fast and powerful Audley Slayer.....I see something along the lines of 2 true champions scouring the division looking for a challenge and a loud mouth that's just out to line his pockets.
The disparity in class is overwhelming and I guess everyone will just have to wait and see....I already know the outcome
Me and you have been having this conversation for over 2 years now Lyle. Nothing on saturday changed anything so why are you making it sound like I've changed my opinion after the Audley fight? I think Haye causes both brothers trouble due to his far superior speed in both hand and foot.
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
I'm a big Haye fan and have been for a long time now. I'm starting to get a bit tired of all his talking though. I had no complaints up until the Fraudley fight. Barrett (for a warm-up), Valuev (to get a belt), Ruiz (because he had too) and then Audley (why?). I guess an estimated £5 million for taking 1 punch is why, but in my opinion he really does need to fight a Klitchko next - no excuses. I think he's gone down in a lot of people's estimations and rightly so but if you were in Haye's position would you turn your nose up at £5 million for 8 minutes of (non) fighting? If you answered yes then your probably lying!!
Personally I think he loses to both brothers. I don't have him getting demolished like some people say as I feel he has a chance against both. I don't think they've ever been in a ring with someone like David. He's quick and he really can punch. But likewise, he's never been in a ring with anyone as good as them. What worries me is that both Ruiz and Audley (albeit only once) have landed jabs. David won't be able to stand there and take them and I think that's where he might lose. He'll have to try and get inside and that's when he'll leave himself open to a counter. Nothing would please me more though then seeing Wlad wobbling all over the place ala Corrie Sanders!! But that was back in the day when he wasn't so frightened to fight....
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
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Originally Posted by
Chrislfc17
I'm a big Haye fan and have been for a long time now. I'm starting to get a bit tired of all his talking though. I had no complaints up until the Fraudley fight. Barrett (for a warm-up), Valuev (to get a belt), Ruiz (because he had too) and then Audley (why?). I guess an estimated £5 million for taking 1 punch is why, but in my opinion he really does need to fight a Klitchko next - no excuses. I think he's gone down in a lot of people's estimations and rightly so but if you were in Haye's position would you turn your nose up at £5 million for 8 minutes of (non) fighting? If you answered yes then your probably lying!!
Personally I think he loses to both brothers. I don't have him getting demolished like some people say as I feel he has a chance against both. I don't think they've ever been in a ring with someone like David. He's quick and he really can punch. But likewise, he's never been in a ring with anyone as good as them. What worries me is that both Ruiz and Audley (albeit only once) have landed jabs. David won't be able to stand there and take them and I think that's where he might lose. He'll have to try and get inside and that's when he'll leave himself open to a counter. Nothing would please me more though then seeing Wlad wobbling all over the place ala Corrie Sanders!! But that was back in the day when he wasn't so frightened to fight....
This post is 100% spot on IMO.
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
If Vitali or Wlad beats Haye, I have a feeling his supporters will come out with many excuses.
Here's a list of them I thought up.
1. Haye was weight drain because the Klits put in a clause that he can only weigh a certain amount.
First off why would the klits put that clause in!? of course people would be fucked off if that was a clause. Secondly you can't have a catch weight in heavyweight boxing.
What a moronic post. And that's being polite.
If either klit Ko's haye fair and square I'll give props. Simple as that.
I would hope that nothing dodgey goes on to put the out come in favour of either combatant.
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
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Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
If Vitali or Wlad beats Haye, I have a feeling his supporters will come out with many excuses.
Here's a list of them I thought up.
1. Haye was weight drain because the Klits put in a clause that he can only weigh a certain amount.
First off why would the klits put that clause in!? of course people would be fucked off if that was a clause. Secondly you can't have a catch weight in heavyweight boxing.
What a moronic post. And that's being polite.
If either klit Ko's haye fair and square I'll give props. Simple as that.
I would hope that nothing dodgey goes on to put the out come in favour of either combatant.
It's called being facetious you dumbfuck. Now fuck off lefty.
Re: Vitali offers Haye 50/50 split and will fight him in England. Lets get it on now
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
If Vitali or Wlad beats Haye, I have a feeling his supporters will come out with many excuses.
Here's a list of them I thought up.
1. Haye was weight drain because the Klits put in a clause that he can only weigh a certain amount.
First off why would the klits put that clause in!? of course people would be fucked off if that was a clause. Secondly you can't have a catch weight in heavyweight boxing.
What a moronic post. And that's being polite.
If either klit Ko's haye fair and square I'll give props. Simple as that.
I would hope that nothing dodgey goes on to put the out come in favour of either combatant.
It's called being facetious you dumbfuck. Now fuck off lefty.
lol more name calling, as always just shows I have a valid point..... I'd get involved but unlike anyone else on this forum I'll get banned. Especially when you go crying to a mod.