Does Cotto or Bradley have a better chance at pulling off the upset?
In my estimation, Bradley does. However, for those that believe Cotto does, I am curious to hear your reasoning.
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In my estimation, Bradley does. However, for those that believe Cotto does, I am curious to hear your reasoning.
Like most people, I agree with you that Bradley has the better chance (though I still favor Pacquiao). I just think Cotto has virtually no chance.
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i voted bradley
thing is, since the fights both lb4lb'ers had with JMM (obviously pacs more recent one) mayweather has been put on even more of a platform
i think if cotto has anything left he is the best fighter mayweather has faced for a long while
and cotto is being written off mainly coz of the way pac took care of him
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I voted Bradley. Pacquaio is aging, and Bradley is still a young pup.
But people are writing Cotto off too quickly. The guy is most certainly not shot. He's got almost as much of a chance as Bradley does.
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In my estimation, Bradley does. However, for those that believe Cotto does, I am curious to hear your reasoning.
With only 41.3% ko rate, I don't think Bradley has a chance of pulling off an upset. He aint' gonna outbox Pac if that's what you're thinking. That's nowhere his gameplan. Hes gonna get timed and probably will get hurt badly.
Anyways. Cotto can execute a hail mary punch, and Bradley can't.
Yeah. Just like that. As simple as that. :)
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Rantcatrat
In my estimation, Bradley does. However, for those that believe Cotto does, I am curious to hear your reasoning.
With only 41.3% ko rate, I don't think Bradley has a chance of pulling off an upset. He aint' gonna outbox Pac if that's what you're thinking. That's nowhere his gameplan. Hes gonna get timed and probably will get hurt badly.
Anyways. Cotto can execute a hail mary punch, and Bradley can't.
Yeah. Just like that. As simple as that. :)
Bradley can't punch. It's one of his weaknesses. However, he can box and is quick. He also can be rough. He's got a shot of stealing rounds and winning on the cards. The fight could end in the 7th after a head butt opens up a cut on Pacquiao and when it goes to the cards, Bradley is up. I see a scenario like that as more likely than Cotto winning.
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Rantcatrat
In my estimation, Bradley does. However, for those that believe Cotto does, I am curious to hear your reasoning.
With only 41.3% ko rate, I don't think Bradley has a chance of pulling off an upset. He aint' gonna outbox Pac if that's what you're thinking. That's nowhere his gameplan. Hes gonna get timed and probably will get hurt badly.
Anyways. Cotto can execute a hail mary punch, and Bradley can't.
Yeah. Just like that. As simple as that. :)
Bradley doesn't have the power to KO Pacquiao, but he has the stamina and physical strength to maul and pressure Manny to a decision win, Marquez hasn't come close to stopping Manny but he's whooped that ass 3 times already
Cotto has the weight advantage, has big fight experience, is using his technical ability a lot more in recent fights, has shown better stamina in recent fights, so IMO he has just as good a chance as anyone, that said Mayweather still wins
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I don't see either guy winning but I picked Bradley just because his head butts may open up a early cut on Pacquiao's eye, which will affect Pac's vision and allow Bradley to steal rounds leading to a close decision win.
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Rantcatrat
In my estimation, Bradley does. However, for those that believe Cotto does, I am curious to hear your reasoning.
With only 41.3% ko rate, I don't think Bradley has a chance of pulling off an upset. He aint' gonna outbox Pac if that's what you're thinking. That's nowhere his gameplan. Hes gonna get timed and probably will get hurt badly.
Anyways. Cotto can execute a hail mary punch, and Bradley can't.
Yeah. Just like that. As simple as that. :)
Bradley doesn't have the power to KO Pacquiao, but he has the stamina and physical strength to maul and pressure Manny to a decision win, Marquez hasn't come close to stopping Manny but he's whooped that ass 3 times already
Cotto has the weight advantage, has big fight experience, is using his technical ability a lot more in recent fights, has shown better stamina in recent fights, so IMO he has just as good a chance as anyone, that said Mayweather still wins
I voted Cotto. Bradley is going to try and walk in and rough Pacquiao up and the last time saw someone try to come forward and be very agressive vs Pac was Hatton. So I see Bradley being the victim of a brutal KO
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I think the claims that Bradley cannot punch are ridiculous. Just because he hasn't KO'd many people doesn't mean he doesn't hurt opponents.
You only have to watch his fights to see what a beating he has put on top level opposition. Peterson, Casamayor, Witter, Campbell, Alexander, all world champions in the last couple years were all floored or punched into submission by him.
He's like Calzaghe or Hopkins. Don't let the KO ratio fool you, he's very capable of hurting guys and no top fighter has been able to cope with him yet.
He's a legit threat to Manny who I feel is on the slide. He's been complaining about his legs in all three of his last fights. This could be a long night for him and I'd not be surprised a bit if Bradley manages to outwork him down the stretch.
For me it's close to a 50/50 fight at this point. I really think Manny is going to get bloodied up and battered.
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Rantcatrat
In my estimation, Bradley does. However, for those that believe Cotto does, I am curious to hear your reasoning.
With only 41.3% ko rate, I don't think Bradley has a chance of pulling off an upset. He aint' gonna outbox Pac if that's what you're thinking. That's nowhere his gameplan. Hes gonna get timed and probably will get hurt badly.
Anyways. Cotto can execute a hail mary punch, and Bradley can't.
Yeah. Just like that. As simple as that. :)
I guess we can finally agree on something ^^^this.
Also, Mayweather is going up to Cotto's comfortable's weight (no weight draining or catchweight) so it gives Cotto juuuuuuust a little bit more of a possibility of doing something vs Mayweather.
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Rantcatrat
In my estimation, Bradley does. However, for those that believe Cotto does, I am curious to hear your reasoning.
With only 41.3% ko rate, I don't think Bradley has a chance of pulling off an upset. He aint' gonna outbox Pac if that's what you're thinking. That's nowhere his gameplan. Hes gonna get timed and probably will get hurt badly.
Anyways. Cotto can execute a hail mary punch, and Bradley can't.
Yeah. Just like that. As simple as that. :)
I guess we can finally agree on something ^^^this.
Also, Mayweather is going up to Cotto's comfortable's weight (no weight draining or catchweight) so it gives Cotto juuuuuuust a little bit more of a possibility of doing something vs Mayweather.
PSL and Chino for once agree! It's ironic that the people who view Bradley as having no shot are either (1) Huge Manny Pacquiao Fans or (2) Those that Hate Manny Pacquiao.
However, I disagree with you both. I've been a big Tim Bradley fan for a long time; I've rode with the Desert Storm since before he went across the pond, as an underdog, to beat up Junior Witter, when Junior Witter was still legitimate. He has a lot of skills. The common critique of Timothy Bradley is that he is good at a lot of things, but not great at any one thing. I concede that I understand that point, but I believe it's not actually true. If you watch Timothy Bradley closely, you'll see a high level of defense and footwork that is way above average. He also knows how to move well and moves in arcs. Maintaining his distance and using his footwork could lead him to victory against Manny Pacquiao.
Bradley's power isn't great, but it's sufficient to keep Manny honest. Remember Bradley has fought at 147 before, and he beat an undefeated fighter. Bradley is too good for Manny to just walk through him. The issue for Bradley will be whether he can deal with Manny's southpaw stance and whether he can avoid Manny's patented odd-angled shots for a whole 12 rounds.
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PSL and Chino for once agree! It's ironic that the people who view Bradley as having no shot are either (1) Huge Manny Pacquiao Fans
Actually, Huge Manny Pacquiao fans will inflate this fight saying Bradley is such a big risk, a super awesome fight, etc. Just to make Manny look great if he wins, which seems like the bigger possibility.
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Bradley's power isn't great, but it's sufficient to keep Manny honest. Remember Bradley has fought at 147 before, and he beat an undefeated fighter. Bradley is too good for Manny to just walk through him. The issue for Bradley will be whether he can deal with Manny's southpaw stance and whether he can avoid Manny's patented odd-angled shots for a whole 12 rounds.
I also wonder how his chin will take Pacquiao’s punches and the weight where they are meeting. What do you think Bradley has better than Pacquiao?
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Bradley has much better chance, of course..
Cotto aint got a snowball's chance in hell.. Not only is he facing the greatest active fighter but he's fighting a man with 2 eyes...
Floyd-Cotto is one of the biggest mismatches ever..