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    Default Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    The U.S boxing fans were less than excited about tuning in to watch Joshua’s bout against replacement opponent Takam. For the live showing, the Joshua-Takam fight pulled in an average of just 334,000 viewers on Showtime with a peak of 361,000 viewers, according to Dan Rafael. Later in the evening, on the Showtime replay, Joshua-Takam averaged 309,000 viewers with a peak of 376,000.


    The unbeaten Joshua (20-0, 20 KOs) stopped the 36-year-old Takam (35-4-1, 27 KOs) in the 10th round at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales. 78,000 boxing fans turned out to see Joshua, weighing a career high of 254 pounds, plod around the ring, gasping for breath at times, and looking very sluggish. The end of the fight came with a whimper, as the referee Phil Edwards stepped in and prematurely stopped the contest at the first sign of trouble in round 10.

    Takam looked only slightly hurt, but it didn’t matter. Edwards halted the fight anyway, and he was rewarded with his early premature stoppage by a chorus of boos from the angry boxing fans. The fans wanted to see the fight play out to the conclusion, and the referee prevented that from happening by hastily jumping in between the two fighters and stopping the fight.

    The results of Joshua’s ratings for last Saturday’s Showtime broadcast reveal an alarming trend. Instead of Joshua getting more popular with each fight that is shown in the States, he seems to be getting less popular.

    Joshua’s first fight televised on Showtime against Eric Molina last December averaged 368,000 viewers with a peak of 390,000. That fight did better numbers than last Saturday’s contest against Takam. Joshua’s second fight on Showtime against former heavyweight world champion Wladimir Klitschko on April 29th of this year averaged 659,000, with a peak of 763,000. The fight was also shown on HBO Championship Boxing on the same night on tape delay and it averaged 738,000 viewers with a peak of 890,000.
    READ Joshua willing to fight Fury even if he’s 40 stone

    It’s understandable that Joshua’s fight against replacement opponent Takam would do far fewer numbers than the Joshua-Klitschko fight, considering that it wasn’t hyped nearly as much, and it was a replacement opponent. Never the less, it’s disturbing that the Joshua-Takam fight did worse numbers than Joshua’s first fight of his Showtime contract against Eric Molina last December. The downward trend of Joshua’s ratings for Showtime suggests that he’s not becoming more popular in the U.S. Showtime will have to decide whether it’s in their best interest to keep pouring money into having Joshua’s fights from overseas piped into the States.


    Thus far, the U.S boxing fans are showing that they’re not all that excited at tuning in to watch Joshua’s fights on Showtime. Whether Joshua’s popularity will increase of not is debatable. The important question Showtime must ask themselves is whether it’s worth it to keep televising Joshua’s fights to the American audience if the fans aren’t thrilled at watching him.

    It might be better for Showtime to sign someone that the U.S boxing public is more interested in watching. There are a lot of good fighters in the U.S that bring in a lot of entertainment like Mikey Garcia and Jermell Charlo, and it could be in Showtime’s best interest to focus on those fighters.




    On the flip side I wonder how many UK folk will tune in to see Wilder v Stiverne on 5th November
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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    This could be the reason why AJ wants to stay in the UK as it is more lucrative.

    I am sure if AJ goes to USA he will get more of an audience. It is a market he will want to tap into when the time is right.

    Wilder fight could be a stinker, sky will still make all AJ fights ppv.
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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    And that was the replay number right? Have to say local network promotion was horrible. Had no idea it was being aired here live. Then again AJ doesn't help either playing down Vegas and saying nahhh we'll stay UK and talking about fighting the Mardi Gras float that is Fury. They put ya live for a reason AJ, best start playing the part.

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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    The U.S boxing fans were less than excited about tuning in to watch Joshua’s bout against replacement opponent Takam. For the live showing, the Joshua-Takam fight pulled in an average of just 334,000 viewers on Showtime with a peak of 361,000 viewers, according to Dan Rafael. Later in the evening, on the Showtime replay, Joshua-Takam averaged 309,000 viewers with a peak of 376,000.


    The unbeaten Joshua (20-0, 20 KOs) stopped the 36-year-old Takam (35-4-1, 27 KOs) in the 10th round at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales. 78,000 boxing fans turned out to see Joshua, weighing a career high of 254 pounds, plod around the ring, gasping for breath at times, and looking very sluggish. The end of the fight came with a whimper, as the referee Phil Edwards stepped in and prematurely stopped the contest at the first sign of trouble in round 10.

    Takam looked only slightly hurt, but it didn’t matter. Edwards halted the fight anyway, and he was rewarded with his early premature stoppage by a chorus of boos from the angry boxing fans. The fans wanted to see the fight play out to the conclusion, and the referee prevented that from happening by hastily jumping in between the two fighters and stopping the fight.

    The results of Joshua’s ratings for last Saturday’s Showtime broadcast reveal an alarming trend. Instead of Joshua getting more popular with each fight that is shown in the States, he seems to be getting less popular.

    Joshua’s first fight televised on Showtime against Eric Molina last December averaged 368,000 viewers with a peak of 390,000. That fight did better numbers than last Saturday’s contest against Takam. Joshua’s second fight on Showtime against former heavyweight world champion Wladimir Klitschko on April 29th of this year averaged 659,000, with a peak of 763,000. The fight was also shown on HBO Championship Boxing on the same night on tape delay and it averaged 738,000 viewers with a peak of 890,000.
    READ Joshua willing to fight Fury even if he’s 40 stone

    It’s understandable that Joshua’s fight against replacement opponent Takam would do far fewer numbers than the Joshua-Klitschko fight, considering that it wasn’t hyped nearly as much, and it was a replacement opponent. Never the less, it’s disturbing that the Joshua-Takam fight did worse numbers than Joshua’s first fight of his Showtime contract against Eric Molina last December. The downward trend of Joshua’s ratings for Showtime suggests that he’s not becoming more popular in the U.S. Showtime will have to decide whether it’s in their best interest to keep pouring money into having Joshua’s fights from overseas piped into the States.


    Thus far, the U.S boxing fans are showing that they’re not all that excited at tuning in to watch Joshua’s fights on Showtime. Whether Joshua’s popularity will increase of not is debatable. The important question Showtime must ask themselves is whether it’s worth it to keep televising Joshua’s fights to the American audience if the fans aren’t thrilled at watching him.

    It might be better for Showtime to sign someone that the U.S boxing public is more interested in watching. There are a lot of good fighters in the U.S that bring in a lot of entertainment like Mikey Garcia and Jermell Charlo, and it could be in Showtime’s best interest to focus on those fighters.

    On the flip side I wonder how many UK folk will tune in to see Wilder v Stiverne on 5th November
    Not a fair comparison so though is it? AJ would have been on in middle of the day in states while in Wilder be the moddle of the nights over here.

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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    The U.S boxing fans were less than excited about tuning in to watch Joshua’s bout against replacement opponent Takam. For the live showing, the Joshua-Takam fight pulled in an average of just 334,000 viewers on Showtime with a peak of 361,000 viewers, according to Dan Rafael. Later in the evening, on the Showtime replay, Joshua-Takam averaged 309,000 viewers with a peak of 376,000.


    The unbeaten Joshua (20-0, 20 KOs) stopped the 36-year-old Takam (35-4-1, 27 KOs) in the 10th round at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales. 78,000 boxing fans turned out to see Joshua, weighing a career high of 254 pounds, plod around the ring, gasping for breath at times, and looking very sluggish. The end of the fight came with a whimper, as the referee Phil Edwards stepped in and prematurely stopped the contest at the first sign of trouble in round 10.

    Takam looked only slightly hurt, but it didn’t matter. Edwards halted the fight anyway, and he was rewarded with his early premature stoppage by a chorus of boos from the angry boxing fans. The fans wanted to see the fight play out to the conclusion, and the referee prevented that from happening by hastily jumping in between the two fighters and stopping the fight.

    The results of Joshua’s ratings for last Saturday’s Showtime broadcast reveal an alarming trend. Instead of Joshua getting more popular with each fight that is shown in the States, he seems to be getting less popular.

    Joshua’s first fight televised on Showtime against Eric Molina last December averaged 368,000 viewers with a peak of 390,000. That fight did better numbers than last Saturday’s contest against Takam. Joshua’s second fight on Showtime against former heavyweight world champion Wladimir Klitschko on April 29th of this year averaged 659,000, with a peak of 763,000. The fight was also shown on HBO Championship Boxing on the same night on tape delay and it averaged 738,000 viewers with a peak of 890,000.
    READ Joshua willing to fight Fury even if he’s 40 stone

    It’s understandable that Joshua’s fight against replacement opponent Takam would do far fewer numbers than the Joshua-Klitschko fight, considering that it wasn’t hyped nearly as much, and it was a replacement opponent. Never the less, it’s disturbing that the Joshua-Takam fight did worse numbers than Joshua’s first fight of his Showtime contract against Eric Molina last December. The downward trend of Joshua’s ratings for Showtime suggests that he’s not becoming more popular in the U.S. Showtime will have to decide whether it’s in their best interest to keep pouring money into having Joshua’s fights from overseas piped into the States.


    Thus far, the U.S boxing fans are showing that they’re not all that excited at tuning in to watch Joshua’s fights on Showtime. Whether Joshua’s popularity will increase of not is debatable. The important question Showtime must ask themselves is whether it’s worth it to keep televising Joshua’s fights to the American audience if the fans aren’t thrilled at watching him.

    It might be better for Showtime to sign someone that the U.S boxing public is more interested in watching. There are a lot of good fighters in the U.S that bring in a lot of entertainment like Mikey Garcia and Jermell Charlo, and it could be in Showtime’s best interest to focus on those fighters.

    On the flip side I wonder how many UK folk will tune in to see Wilder v Stiverne on 5th November
    Not a fair comparison so though is it? AJ would have been on in middle of the day in states while in Wilder be the moddle of the nights over here.
    Even if it was at 5pm on a Saturday evening I doubt it would pull in huge numbers

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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Suppose not but would clash with the PL. Sunday is the big day for US SPORTS. But i get your point and to be honest I cant imagine that many will tune in in the states either. Wilder just isnt a draw in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Wilder actually does great numbers.

    I think AJs awful numbers are great news. It means they will make AJ/Wilder. AJ needs the numbers to get a better deal from HBO.

    The US will accept AJ if he starts making the fights we want. Look at Lennox, he was adopted and made bank. Truth is the money in UK is a fraction of what can be made in US if you get the audience on your side. Mayweather just made 341 million dollars for boxing a guy who can’t box. Not saying AJ will make that but more expensive PPVs to a larger audience is more money.

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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    American TV is absolute peanuts compared to UK PPV, lets not be silly now. Now if you were comparing American PPV with UK PPV it would be a different matter entirely.

    Unless for some unknown reason £10 million from the US is more special than £10 million from the UK then arguing that AJ "needs" America is beyond arrogant/stupid.

    All these low numbers showed is Showtime subscribers weren't interested in a supposed mismatch with a French man that was screened on a Saturday afternoon from a foreign country. It's not a coincidence that all American based opponents have scored a higher rating.

    Wlad's best ever HBO rating was against Jennings. How come a million and half Americans tuned in specifically for that fight when previous Wlad fights did an awful rating? Well it just so happens Jennings was an American, the fight took place in New York and was screened primetime. Coincidence? ()
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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Not a good comparison ...... the Wilder fight is not PPV in the UK. It's on Sky Sports
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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Wilder's fight on Sky won't even break 30,000 viewers, the numbers for primetime are tiny for non-ppv Sky shows let alone early hours stuff (PPV events annihilate "free" saturday nights for viewership)
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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    American TV is absolute peanuts compared to UK PPV, lets not be silly now. Now if you were comparing American PPV with UK PPV it would be a different matter entirely.

    Unless for some unknown reason £10 million from the US is more special than £10 million from the UK then arguing that AJ "needs" America is beyond arrogant/stupid.

    All these low numbers showed is Showtime subscribers weren't interested in a supposed mismatch with a French man that was screened on a Saturday afternoon from a foreign country. It's not a coincidence that all American based opponents have scored a higher rating.

    Wlad's best ever HBO rating was against Jennings. How come a million and half Americans tuned in specifically for that fight when previous Wlad fights did an awful rating? Well it just so happens Jennings was an American, the fight took place in New York and was screened primetime. Coincidence? ()
    Perhaps you should read what you reply to

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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    American TV is absolute peanuts compared to UK PPV, lets not be silly now. Now if you were comparing American PPV with UK PPV it would be a different matter entirely.

    Unless for some unknown reason £10 million from the US is more special than £10 million from the UK then arguing that AJ "needs" America is beyond arrogant/stupid.

    All these low numbers showed is Showtime subscribers weren't interested in a supposed mismatch with a French man that was screened on a Saturday afternoon from a foreign country. It's not a coincidence that all American based opponents have scored a higher rating.

    Wlad's best ever HBO rating was against Jennings. How come a million and half Americans tuned in specifically for that fight when previous Wlad fights did an awful rating? Well it just so happens Jennings was an American, the fight took place in New York and was screened primetime. Coincidence? ()
    Perhaps you should read what you reply to
    I addressed several points from several posts to offer some perspective/understanding.
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    Default Re: Joshua-Takam averages 334K viewers on Showtime

    Shit viewing figures for a World Heavyweight title fight, I thought AJ had more pull than that in the US?
    I personally think he should travel at some point and really crack the US market.
    I think they'd love him over there after a few tv shows.

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