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    Default Re: Good Fighters With Decieving Records

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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    Thats a good one. Tillis was one of the last hevyweight to utilize his footwork. He moved very well (until he got tired) The heavyweights now have awful footwork. Watching a 44 y/o Evander Holyfield move around the ring better than 99% of the heavies tells you something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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    I sparred with this bloke back in 92 named Lionel Butler I think his record was 9 wins and 10 losses. I never been hit so hard in my life ! LOL. I thought to myself " who the hell beat this SOB " ? LOL .. a few days of sparring and I finally got the best of him, but damn he could deliver he had top power. and good sharp delivery, I learned a great deal from him .
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    Lords Gym it's crazy how somehow I know what the fuck! or who the fuck you talk about.....
    Butler used to fight a lot out here in Los Angeles, I remember that name cause my uncle has a programme of when he wen't to see Rafael Ruelas fight if my memory serves me right (which isn't really working right now cause I' trying to remember that Orzbek guy) Ruelas fought Robert Rivera. Butlers name is on the programme though I think thats him Lionel Butler....
    He was about 5"11 6"0 and 220 ish I would say . I really can't remember all the details on him , only that his record , and what I was getting in offensive production from the man, didn't add up ! hehe a few days into sparring I found his weakness was pressure. , Butler didn’t like being pressed and would give up first on the inside , thus allowing you to back him up.. on his heels he couldn’t get off, however when allowed to march forward he was a machine .
    Spot on man!! Thanks for sharing that with us, always a nice treat to read your talks about the sport....


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    Sadly most fighters with unbeaten records, too many are over protected and too afraid to lose that 0. Far to many to mention.
    I m interested in seeing a few on your list....

    Heres a few off my list...
    Pavlik
    Hatton
    Paul Williams
    Sergiy Dzinziruk
    Joe C.
    Juan Diaz
    Dont agree with 2 of those names ( obviously ) but i promise you Dinziruk is not an overated fight he is quality .

    He completely did a job on Santos he cut the ring down and had Santos on the back foot ( Ok Santos is a backfoot fighter ) with a look of desperation .

    He looked as if he was fighting with a Shotgun to his head .
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    I won't argue with you cause I've only seen 2 full fights of his and highlights so I'll take your word for it.....


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    Hehehe , Maybe i should say i only saw him at European level and the title win over Santos ...so about the same the cut me !!

    But i was seriously impressed with him Santos is a hard man to look good against ask Tony Magarito .

    I especially liked the right hook and his composure considering it was his 1st big test .

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    Heres hoping he starts making some serious noise and has a big fight this year....

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    Roy Jones was a good fighter with a deceiving record.

    He did a rap record, and it was deceiving because it was shit.

    That is all.
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    Default Re: Good Fighters With Decieving Records

    A few I was thinking about it were already mentioned so currently..

    Cruz Carvajal

    Can't remember the guy's first name, last name is Andrade, lower weight guy, records like 28-24 but not a bad fighter.

    Verno Phillips


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    Default Re: Good Fighters With Decieving Records

    Dunno if Emmanuel Augustus has been mentioned but he's record suggests that he's pretty usless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
    Dunno if Emmanuel Augustus has been mentioned but he's record suggests that he's pretty usless.
    Augustus was pretty useless against Kid Diamond. Fuker really disapointed me and let me down in that fight.

    Marteze Logan is another guy, like Augustus, actually he lost to Augustus, but like Augustus he can upset prospects sometimes. He definately knows how to box and handle himself in the ring. Fukin Shamone Alvarez laid him out though!
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    Darnell Boone dropped Andre Ward and just recently beat highly touted prospect James Johnson. And if you see him fight, he's a good fighter with good mechanics, not like his record suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X
    Roy Jones was a good fighter with a deceiving record.

    He did a rap record, and it was deceiving because it was shit.

    That is all.

    I liked his records actually

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    Default Re: Good Fighters With Decieving Records

    Emanuel Augustus and Mickey Ward are a MUST for this list, Carbajal.

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    Default Good Fighters With Deceiving Records

    Juan La Porte 40 wins 22 KO's 17 losses good fighter went distance with some of the greatest fighters like Julio Cesar Chavez, Wilfredo Gomez, Kostya Tszyu, Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson,

    Mike Weaver 41 wins 28 KO's 18 losses.

    Bert Cooper 36 wins 30 KO's 22 losses.

    Tim Witherspoon 55 wins 38 KO's 13 losses.

    Greg Page 58 wins 48 KO's 17 losses.

    Emanuel Augustus 35 wins 18 KO's 29 losses.

    Jimmy Young 34 wins 11 KO's 19 losses.

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    Default Re: Good Fighters With Deceiving Records

    Its the "went" Part That Need s clarity.There have been 50/50 fighters who were at peek of career and went back and forth.Or the Once good skilled fighter that Hangs on too long and ends up with a shoddy record??

    Freddie Pendleton
    Sammy Fuentes
    Livingstone Bramble
    Verno Phillips


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    Default Re: Good Fighters With Deceiving Records

    Jersey Joe Walcott, 51-18, not what you would call a bad record but not a reflection of the incredible skills he had IMO
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