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    Default Re: Hardest Welterweight puncher ever... who was actually good

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Robinson....hell of a puncher, still KO'd big middleweights when he moved up

    Thomas Hearns #2...he was an explosive puncher

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    Wow!!!! True Robinson had KO power in both hands..But, Hearns was friggin devastating!!!! of course it could be because of the whole recency thing....
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    He was a MONSTOR for his weight LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puya
    He was a MONSTOR for his weight LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
    IMO, and in the following order:

    1. Hearns
    2. Trinidad
    3. Cuevas
    4. Duran
    5. Mayorga (should be considered at this weight)
    6. Robinson
    Cant believe i didnt think of Mayorga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Robinson....hell of a puncher, still KO'd big middleweights when he moved up

    Thomas Hearns #2...he was an explosive puncher

    Trinidad 3rd
    Robinson how was he a hell of a puncher? He sometimes punched guys into submission, but he never really one punched a really middleweight contender like Trinidad or Hearns have done. Remember Fulmer was also a welterweight, and that left hook was good, but I've seen both Trinidad adn Hearns throw harder. And for Hearns to buckle Hagler's legs is something Robinson IMO could never do with one punch.
    For about 3-4 fights....he never was a true welterweight, he was too big.

    Ray also KO'd Carl Olsen twice

    Ray also moved up from lightweight so please take that in consideration

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    Yeah Mayor was an animal at that weight. Now that I think of it how KT, Cotto, PBF, Zab, among other WW would do against Mayorga ( well the won that show up against Vernon Forrest.
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    In my mind Hearns was the hardest puncher at welterweight and maybe even with Robinson. But Hearns had the best right hand that is for sure. And to another point, someone mentioned Mayorga in the list. Mayorga is not on the list. The only good guy he ever beat was Forrest. He really has not been very good. He is a wild swinging guy with no real defense. Talk about overrated. He and Buddy McGirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
    In my mind Hearns was the hardest puncher at welterweight and maybe even with Robinson. But Hearns had the best right hand that is for sure. And to another point, someone mentioned Mayorga in the list. Mayorga is not on the list. The only good guy he ever beat was Forrest. He really has not been very good. He is a wild swinging guy with no real defense. Talk about overrated. He and Buddy McGirt.














    And truth of the matter is the only real reason he beat Forrest the first time is Forrest came in the ring cockey and did not take Mayorga serious....If you look at that fight again Forrest had a look of shock on his face when he was knocked down the first time....Vernon thought he was going to walk through Mayorga due to the fact he just beat a P4P Mosley twice....In the re-match Forrest was scared and fought scared....

    Hearns Vs Mayorga would have been good while it lasted....

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    Gotta go with Hearns no question.

    Duran was a terror at LW, and while he did punch hard at WW, he was not on the level of a Thomas Hearns. Tommy's right hand was just a cannonball.
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    It's gotta be the Hitman.... No not Ricky
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    Default Re: Hardest Welterweight puncher ever... who was actually good

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Robinson....hell of a puncher, still KO'd big middleweights when he moved up

    Thomas Hearns #2...he was an explosive puncher

    Trinidad 3rd
    Robinson how was he a hell of a puncher? He sometimes punched guys into submission, but he never really one punched a really middleweight contender like Trinidad or Hearns have done. Remember Fulmer was also a welterweight, and that left hook was good, but I've seen both Trinidad adn Hearns throw harder. And for Hearns to buckle Hagler's legs is something Robinson IMO could never do with one punch.
    For about 3-4 fights....he never was a true welterweight, he was too big.

    Ray also KO'd Carl Olsen twice

    Ray also moved up from lightweight so please take that in consideration

    First of all Robinson was 18-19 when he started his recorded career, and did you see KEssler when he was 19 he wasn't even close to his full size. Gene was 20, that 19-20 is the biggest year of when the body puts on muscle in your life. Also Gene was welterweight champion before moving up so I don't see how he could become that with 4 fights at welterweight. Regardless Gene came into middleweight fights at about 154 for a long time, and Robinson stopped Olsen late from what I remember. I can't see Robinson doing what Hearns did to Duran period. Or what Duran did to Moore.

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    Default Re: Hardest Welterweight puncher ever... who was actually good

    Hearns without a doubt IMO. Followed by Tito. Obviously Ray Robinson has to be up there.....he was brilliant at EVERYTHING. Mayorga could crack at welter aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
    First of all Robinson was 18-19 when he started his recorded career, and did you see KEssler when he was 19 he wasn't even close to his full size. Gene was 20, that 19-20 is the biggest year of when the body puts on muscle in your life. Also Gene was welterweight champion before moving up so I don't see how he could become that with 4 fights at welterweight. Regardless Gene came into middleweight fights at about 154 for a long time, and Robinson stopped Olsen late from what I remember. I can't see Robinson doing what Hearns did to Duran period. Or what Duran did to Moore.
    I declare shennanigans on Gene Fullmer being a welterweight champion....also Gene Fullmer was 27 years old when he lost to Ray Robinson in 1957.

    Robinson hit harder than Duran at least....I mean at welterweight he was a damn beast.

    Let's also not forget that Robinson had 108 KO's...more than anyone else on the list

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoitsdan
    It's gotta be the Hitman.... No not Ricky
    i agree with you my good man. it has got to be hearns.

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    Default Re: Hardest Welterweight puncher ever... who was actually good

    hearns
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    duran
    robinson
    dlh

    mayb in te future paul williams

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