OK fellas here's what I'm gonna do, I am going to pit 2 trainers against each other in every weight class I can with their best fighters.....maybe this will continue, maybe it won't. Anywho this should settle once and for all who the better trainers are/were.

1st up, all time greats

EDDIE FUTCH VS RAY ARCEL

Heavyweight: 'Smokin' Joe Frazier - Larry Holmes (he was actually trained by both)

Lightheavyweight: Bob Foster - Ezzard Charles

Welterweight: Don 'Geronimo' Jordan - Barney Ross

Lightweight: Alexis 'El Flaco Explosivo' Arguello - Roberto 'Manos de Piedro' Duran