Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

[ICB]

This topic has been done a few times but i've changed it slightly.

Power = Edwin Valero
Speed = Joe Calzaghe
Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Body Punching = Miguel Cotto
Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
Jab = Mikkel Kessler
Left Hand = Manny Pacquiao
Workrate = Paul Williams
Luck With The Judges = Jermain Taylor
Counter Punching = Juan Manuel Marquez
Chin = Antonio Margarito
Heart = Juan Diaz

[LEGION]

This topic has been done a few times but i've changed it slightly.

Power = Edwin Valero
Speed = Joe Calzaghe
Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Body Punching = Miguel Cotto
Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
Jab = Mikkel Kessler
Left Hand = Manny Pacquiao
Workrate = Paul Williams
Luck With The Judges = Jermain Taylor
Counter Punching = Juan Manuel Marquez
Chin = Antonio Margarito
Heart = Juan Diaz

Pretty much how you had it, but I would put Katsidis in where Juan Diaz is for heart, and put Juan in a "highest workrate" type category. Not saying Diaz doesn't have heart though.

Also I still think J. Taylor has one of the best jabs in the game, though not as prevalent lately. Chin I would put Andrade.

[Julius Rain]

Boxing skills=Floyd
Offense=Pac
Defense=Winky
Tactics=Bhop
Chin=Andrade


That is ultimate boxer.

[DaxxKahn]

Power- David Haye
Chin- Librado Andrade
Slickness- Paul Malignaggi
Work rate- Kassim Ouma/Joe Calzaghe
Defense- Winky Wright
Heart- Arturo Gatti
Over all ability- Floyd Mayweather JR

[CutMeMick]

Heres my boxer:

Boxing Ability - PBF..............(A+)
Power - Edwin Valero...........(A+)
Defense - Winky Wright........(A+)
Ring Generalship - JMM.........(A+)
Experience - Hopkins............(A+)
Chin - Librado Andrade......... (A+)
Stamina - Hopkins................(A+)
Work Rate - Juan Diaz...........(A+)
Heart - Michael Katsidis.........(A+)

[Wright]

Good list, but I would add footwork and intelligence, although I suppose intelligence could be covered by tactics in Julius' post. I think footwork would have to be Mayweather, and intelligence would be Audley Harrison, because he obviously knows something we don't know.

[ono]

This topic has been done a few times but i've changed it slightly.

Power = Edwin Valero
Speed = Joe Calzaghe
Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Body Punching = Miguel Cotto
Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
Jab = Mikkel Kessler
Left Hand = Manny Pacquiao
Workrate = Paul Williams
Luck With The Judges = Jermain Taylor
Counter Punching = Juan Manuel Marquez
Chin = Antonio Margarito
Heart = Juan Diaz

Power = Edwin Valero
Speed = Amir Kahn
Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jr
Body Punching = Ricky Hatton
Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
Jab = Jermain Taylor (when he uses it)
Left Hand = Pacman
Workrate = Joe Calzaghe
Chin = Antonio Margarito
Heart = Michael Katsidis

[toogood4u]

LOL...luck with the judges...

joel casamayor?..hehe

[leftylee]

Power- Wlad Klitchsko
Speed - Amir Khan
Defense = Floyd Mayweather
Body Punching - Ricky Hatton
Right Hand - David Haye
Jab - Mikkel Kessler
Let Hand - Enzo Maccarinelli
Workrate - Joe Calzaghe
Luck With The Judges - Jermain Taylor
Chin - Ronald Wright
Heart - Ricky Hatton

[Boxerharvey]

Power = Roy Jones Jnr
Speed = Amir Kahn
Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jnr
Body Punching = Shane Mosley
Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
Jab = Miguel Cotto (in the Mosley fight)
Left Hand = Manny Pacquiao
Workrate = Ricky Hatton
Counter Punching = Juan Manuel Marquez
Chin = Shane Mosley
Heart = Arturo Gatti

[Dark Lord Al]

Heres my boxer:

Boxing Ability - PBF..............(A+)
Power - Edwin Valero...........(A+)
Defense - Winky Wright........(A+)
Ring Generalship - JMM.........(A+)
Experience - Hopkins............(A+)
Chin - Librado Andrade......... (A+)
Stamina - Hopkins................(A+)
Work Rate - Juan Diaz...........(A+)
Heart - Michael Katsidis.........(A+)

good list Mick but id change the following :
power Vlad
stamina - pacman

[CutMeMick]

Heres my boxer:

Boxing Ability - PBF..............(A+)
Power - Edwin Valero...........(A+)
Defense - Winky Wright........(A+)
Ring Generalship - JMM.........(A+)
Experience - Hopkins............(A+)
Chin - Librado Andrade......... (A+)
Stamina - Hopkins................(A+)
Work Rate - Juan Diaz...........(A+)
Heart - Michael Katsidis.........(A+)

good list Mick but id change the following :
power Vlad
stamina - pacman

Believe or not I had it that way but if you notice theres an edit on my post and I changed it.
For 'power' I said Wladdy because his powers tested against World Class opponents 45 ko's out of 49 wins. On the other hand Edwins perfect KO streak but it's only been tested against 1 World Class opponent. So I went with perfection.
The 'stamina' I said well Hopkins still trains like in his younger days he doesn't smoke, drink or anything like that. I've never seen him tire out and or run out of gas. Pac on the other hand does have good stamina but IMO the fact that Hopkins been fighting at that level for that long made me put him there.

[The Fightfan]

I would have to say workrate Juan Diaz.He throws alot of hard,quick punches and they come in bundles. I like the rest of the guys you have picked Calzaghe,Ouma,Williams are all very good but they don't have that power mixed in if you catch me.

[Kev]

Well if I'm allowed to get a little analytical here having the best possible attributes in each category would NOT make the best fighter in the world.

It's just like those photo's that mix and match the sexiest women by bodypart and form the 'perfect' woman that always ends up looking ghastly.

For a fighter to be truly great he has to be not necessarily great in every area but rather all of his areas need to be harmonious with each other.

For example how could a fighter possibly be successful if he tried to mix Juan Diaz's workrate with Winky's defense? How could Juan throw 1000 punches a fight if he was hiding behind his jab all the time?

How can a fighter have an offensive arsenal like Pacqiuo or Valero but the tactics of B Hop?

Likewise if you have Wladimir's jab but Floyd's boxing style what use is your jab?

If you truly could create a fighter that blended all these elements together he'd probably be really inconsistent and beatable as a result. How could he possibly develop a style when each area contradict's the others?

[ICB]

Well if I'm allowed to get a little analytical here having the best possible attributes in each category would NOT make the best fighter in the world.

It's just like those photo's that mix and match the sexiest women by bodypart and form the 'perfect' woman that always ends up looking ghastly.

For a fighter to be truly great he has to be not necessarily great in every area but rather all of his areas need to be harmonious with each other.

For example how could a fighter possibly be successful if he tried to mix Juan Diaz's workrate with Winky's defense? How could Juan throw 1000 punches a fight if he was hiding behind his jab all the time?

How can a fighter have an offensive arsenal like Pacqiuo or Valero but the tactics of B Hop?

Likewise if you have Wladimir's jab but Floyd's boxing style what use is your jab?

If you truly could create a fighter that blended all these elements together he'd probably be really inconsistent and beatable as a result. How could he possibly develop a style when each area contradict's the others?

Good point Bilbo how about Mayweather with Valero's power thats pretty much a perfect fighter