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    Default 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    By Graham Houston
    Special to ESPN.com
    (Archive)

    Updated: January 8, 2008

    It took a monstrous hook from Sugar Ray Robinson to take Gene Fullmer off of his feet.

    Throughout boxing history there have been some incredibly tough individuals. The "Durable Dane" nickname of old-time lightweight champ Battling Nelson was well-earned, for instance. In a look at the all-time best chins, then, the problem is not which boxers to include but which to leave out. Here, focusing on fighters of the past, is a list of the toughest of the tough.

    10. Tommy Farr

    Tough Tommy from Tonpandy, Wales, will forever be remembered for not only lasting the full 15 rounds with Joe Louis but actually giving the Brown Bomber a very good, competitive fight. Farr was stopped five times but three of those losses were earlier in his 126-fight career and two when he was well past his best. The Louis fight was one of the ring's great exhibitions; it showed how to endure under fire and give some back against an all-time great puncher. As James P. Dawson reported in The New York Times: "Farr, though he was beaten last night, battered and bruised and pounded with staggering force at times, won glory in that he attained the unique distinction of surviving 15 rounds against the master puncher of the day."

    9. Gene Fullmer

    The "Mauling Mormon" was stopped only twice, the first time famously when Sugar Ray Robinson hit him with one of the greatest left hooks ever thrown in their middleweight championship rematch. In three other 15-round fights with Robinson, Fullmer took the best punches that the greatest fighter in history could deliver. He was stopped for the second time in his career when, cut and battered, his corner retired him after the seventh round against old rival Dick Tiger in Nigeria, but by that time Fullmer, 32, was at the end of his career.

    In the third of his four-fight series with Robinson -- a 15-round draw -- The Associated Press reported that Sugar Ray "rattled numerous rights off the granite-like jaw and chin of Fullmer" and that it "seemed impossible for the 29-year-old champion from West Jordan, Utah, to survive the attack." Fullmer did survive, though, and defiantly told the press afterwards: "He never hurt me."

    8. Carmen Basilio

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    Carmen Basilio, right, had the ability to walk through extremely hard shots.
    The onion farmer from Syracuse, N.Y., was a tireless aggressor and wicked left-hooker noted for his ruggedness and big heart. His two stoppage defeats came at the end of his career against the bigger, stronger Fullmer, and the rematch was halted mainly because Basilio was badly cut, with the brave warrior furious at the referee for stopping the fight. Basilio withstood some tremendous blows from Tony DeMarco in their two welterweight championship wars. When he narrowly defeated Robinson in the first of their two epic fights The Associated Press reported that Basilio "shook off punches that would have knocked down a horse."

    7. Jake LaMotta

    Not many fighters, surely, could have withstood the punishment that Jake LaMotta absorbed from Sugar Ray Robinson in their 1951 title fight without going down. Although the Bronx Bull took a terrible beating he was on his feet, bloodied but defiant, at the finish. (In the movie "Raging Bull," Robert DeNiro, as LaMotta, says with hoarse-voiced satisfaction at the end of the fight: "Ray, you couldn't knock me down." It was the sort of comment the real-life LaMotta might have made.) In more than 100 bouts against the best of his era, nobody barred, LaMotta was stopped just four times -- by Robinson, the notorious fixed fight against Billy Fox, and twice as a light heavyweight when he was largely a spent force -- but he was never counted out.

    6. Kid Gavilan

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    In 143 fights, Kid Gavilan, left, was never stopped.
    The Cuban Hawk was never stopped in 143 fights -- although he suffered a couple of knockdowns, one coming in his welterweight title fight with Basilio when he was nailed by a left hook that might have knocked out most 147-pounders. Gavilan is the fourth boxer on the list to have fought Robinson. When Gavilan gave Sugar Ray an excellent fight for the welterweight title, James P. Dawson reported in The New York Times that "the Cuban has more endurance, determination and fearlessness than any other in Robinson's limited field of challengers."

    5. Carlos Monzon

    Argentina's Carlos Monzon lost three fights out of 100, all on points, and although knocked down by the fine Colombian middleweight Rodrigo Valdes, he got up to win and retired afterwards as unbeaten and the undisputed 160-pound champion. I was lucky enough to have been able to cover several of Monzon's European fights from ringside, including his 1975 title defense against Gratien Tonna in Paris when the rather crude but muscular French boxer landed a tremendous left hook early in the fight -- and Monzon never went anywhere. After this, the will to fight seemed to drain from Tonna, who essentially surrendered in the fifth.

    4. George Chuvalo

    George Chuvalo, left, took shots from some of the hardest hitting heavyweights in boxing history -- including George Foreman, right -- and never went down.
    No list of best chins could be complete, in my view, without mention of Canadian heavyweight ironman George Chuvalo, who twice went the distance with Muhammad Ali and was never dropped in 93 fights. (When Chuvalo was stopped by Joe Frazier he suffered a fractured cheekbone, and he remained on his feet while being overwhelmed by George Foreman.) Chuvalo outlasted the very hard-hitting Jerry Quarry in a seven-round war.

    In an interview for Boxing Monthly in 1998, Chuvalo told me that although known mostly for being able to absorb punches, he felt he could box a bit, too. "If I got hit with one-tenth of the punches that I was reputed to have been hit with, I wouldn't be able to talk to you," he said. "I'd always say: 'On the right night, I'd beat anybody.' Maybe if they had 100-round fights I would have."

    3. Rocky Marciano

    Rocky Marciano's ability to take punishment and keep coming is the stuff of legend. He was dropped twice in his 49 fights (all of which were victories), coming back to knock out wonderful sharpshooters Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore. Although the great Ezzard Charles bloodied Marciano in each of their two fights he could not stop the Rock's relentless advances. Marciano simply seemed unstoppable in these fights. As observed by writer Ed Fitzgerald in the January 1953 edition of Sport magazine: "You can, as with an enraged grizzly bear, slow him down and make him shake his head if you hit him hard enough to wound him, but you can't make him back up."

    2. Harry Greb

    The old "Human Windmill" was as tough as they come. In 240 bouts he was stopped only twice, once when he was outweighed, then when he suffered a broken arm. Those losses came in the first two years of his 13-year career. A great middleweight champion, he fought the best of his era including top-caliber light heavyweights, notably Gene Tunney (later to become heavyweight champion) and Tommy Loughran.

    Astonishingly, Greb fought the last several years of his career while blind in the right eye, the general consensus being that he had been thumbed in the eye in a 1921 contest.

    1. Marvelous Marvin Hagler

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    In a list of really, really tough guys, Hagler has to be right up there. He was only dropped once, and that was an off-balance flooring against Argentina's rough and rugged Juan Domingo Roldan, whom he otherwise outclassed. Hagler stood up to the best punches of John Mugabi, one of the biggest hitters of the 1980s.

    What puts Hagler at the top of the list, in my view, is the way he took some tremendous punches from Thomas Hearns in their epic three-round war. I doubt very many middleweights could have weathered the Hearns firestorm that night, but Hagler did, and he came back with an even more withering barrage of his own. What a chin -- what a fighter.
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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    This list is bias to old fighters

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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    This list is bias to old fighters
    Yes it is where is James Toney, Juan La Porte, Julio Cesar Chavez, etc ??

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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    No Zab Judah?

    The guy don't know his boxing.
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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    Seems absurd that in a eulogy to the old greats that Marvin Hagler is at number 1 seemingly out of nowhere.

    No doubt Hagler had a great chin but Thomas Hearns doesn't hit harder than Sam Peter and Hagler never ventured beyond his own weight class.

    Guys like Toney, McCallum, Ali etc had as good chins as Hagler imo.

    Hagler got his 'iron chin' reputation off of one fight really.

    He'd be in my top 10 but guys like Lamotta, Ali, Robinson, Toney etc would all be higher.

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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    I've never seen him fight, but Marion Wilson must be in the top 10. He could even have had THE best chin ever, considering that's about all he had and it never failed him against a who's who of HW punchers.

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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    Robinson, Ali, and Toney should all be on this list.

    Robinson fought 200 times and was never knocked out! His only stoppage loss was from heat stroke. How is that not good enough to make a Top 10 list?

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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    Oliver McCall has to be up there , i mean he let Lewis hit him flush when he had that breakdwon and he didnt even hit the deck.
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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    David tua and rocky juarez have some pretty solid chins as well.
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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    all boxing lists are bias to old fighters. Just the way it is, fighters get better the longer they've been retired.

    It is a questionable list. Even misses some older fighters who have a claim to be on there like Robinson.

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    Default Re: 10 best chins in history by Graham Houston

    I agree with Mar to me David Tua stands on top of the heep.Most people forget to mention GEORGE FOREMAN.Sure the old days we seen him knocked down but with his second time around.How many times. Zero.You guys can't laugh but I think Lennox had a great chin as well I mean look at the punches that knocked him out by McCall and Rahman if those right hands landed on anyone.They'd be put to sleep as well.Jerry Quarry has to come to mind also.We've just watched him take hellaticous shots on youtube recently.He's pretty much done that throughout his career.

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