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  • Juan Diaz by KO

    2 7.41%
  • Michael Katsidis by KO

    13 48.15%
  • Juan Diaz by Decision

    10 37.04%
  • Michael Katsidis by Decision

    2 7.41%
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    Default Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    Looks like it's already confirmed according to boxrec.. Juan Diaz

    Who's gonna win and how?
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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    Juan Diaz by UD
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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    JD by decision for me simply because Kats' defense is not that great imo. He gets hit a lot. And he gets careless when he feels like he's winning the fight.

    I was gonna vote for "JD by KO" but most of us know he doesn't have power.
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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    Katsidis by KO. Diaz also has leaky defense and gets hit a lot, as does Katsidis, but I feel that Katsidis has a power advantage and that he'll be able to match or exceed Diaz' work rate. Nate Campbell almost stopped Diaz, so it's not like he's some unstoppable. Katsidis will stop him.

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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    I talked about this in another thread, hopefully I can get the same essence.

    Diaz and Katsidis are both coming off loses, but Katsidis comes off his loss the better of the two.

    When Campbell took the fight to Diaz, Diaz took quite a beating. He was used to controlling the fight, but when someone was able to do it to him, he folded and couldn't find an answer.

    Katsidis began his fight with Casamayor by being knocked down twice, then went on to lose the next couple of rounds. All of a sudden Kats showed his heart and fought his way back and even led at one point in the scorecards. And if you forgot, knocked Casa out of the ring.

    When Diaz needed to show heart, he couldn't find it, when Katsidis had to dig deep, he shined (even though he got blasted in the end).

    I see Diaz outworking and controlling the first couple of rounds against Kats. Eventually Kats doesn't bow down and Diaz gets discouraged. Kats then fights his way back to the scorecards and stops Diaz late in the fight.

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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12 View Post
    I talked about this in another thread, hopefully I can get the same essence.

    Diaz and Katsidis are both coming off loses, but Katsidis comes off his loss the better of the two.

    When Campbell took the fight to Diaz, Diaz took quite a beating. He was used to controlling the fight, but when someone was able to do it to him, he folded and couldn't find an answer.

    Katsidis began his fight with Casamayor by being knocked down twice, then went on to lose the next couple of rounds. All of a sudden Kats showed his heart and fought his way back and even led at one point in the scorecards. And if you forgot, knocked Casa out of the ring.

    When Diaz needed to show heart, he couldn't find it, when Katsidis had to dig deep, he shined (even though he got blasted in the end).

    I see Diaz outworking and controlling the first couple of rounds against Kats. Eventually Kats doesn't bow down and Diaz gets discouraged. Kats then fights his way back to the scorecards and stops Diaz late in the fight.
    The only thing I disagree about is Diaz' heart. I thought by finishing the fight on his feet he showed a lot of heart, he looked like he wanted to quit, but he stayed there and fought as best he could. He just didn't have the skills/gameplan/ring smarts to match Campbell's game.

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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12 View Post
    I talked about this in another thread, hopefully I can get the same essence.

    Diaz and Katsidis are both coming off loses, but Katsidis comes off his loss the better of the two.

    When Campbell took the fight to Diaz, Diaz took quite a beating. He was used to controlling the fight, but when someone was able to do it to him, he folded and couldn't find an answer.

    Katsidis began his fight with Casamayor by being knocked down twice, then went on to lose the next couple of rounds. All of a sudden Kats showed his heart and fought his way back and even led at one point in the scorecards. And if you forgot, knocked Casa out of the ring.

    When Diaz needed to show heart, he couldn't find it, when Katsidis had to dig deep, he shined (even though he got blasted in the end).

    I see Diaz outworking and controlling the first couple of rounds against Kats. Eventually Kats doesn't bow down and Diaz gets discouraged. Kats then fights his way back to the scorecards and stops Diaz late in the fight.
    The only thing I disagree about is Diaz' heart. I thought by finishing the fight on his feet he showed a lot of heart, he looked like he wanted to quit, but he stayed there and fought as best he could. He just didn't have the skills/gameplan/ring smarts to match Campbell's game.
    i'm envisioning the same scenario as caleoh but i think diaz would have it in him to survive to lose by a close decision.

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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    katsidis via late round rally with jd trying to survive.

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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    I went Juan Diaz KO, just because TKO or stoppage wasn't an option. I think Diaz has the far better skills and at least an equal workrate. Campbell was able to get to Diaz and hurt him a little but he has far more craft than Kats could dream of and is just as tough imo. It's not as though Campbell was the first guy Diaz fought who could punch ither.. Freitas and Julio Diaz could both bang as well. I don't see Katsidis being able to take as many punches as he should against Diaz, assuming Juan has his head in the fight. He'll give it his all and I don't expect Diaz to take it easily, but Katsidis will have to be willing to take several shots to land one as long as Juan keeps throwing them. Should be a very exciting matchup.

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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    Kats by KO.

    Campbell and Katsidis have similarities on their fighting style. But imo, Kats is quicker and hits harder.

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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Katsidis by KO. Diaz also has leaky defense and gets hit a lot, as does Katsidis, but I feel that Katsidis has a power advantage and that he'll be able to match or exceed Diaz' work rate. Nate Campbell almost stopped Diaz, so it's not like he's some unstoppable. Katsidis will stop him.
    Nate Campbell almost stopped Diaz with what? Diaz's problem is he's a natural brawler without power. Campbell beat Diaz simply because he outslicked him. Any fighter who doesn't have that kind of finesse doesn't stand a chance against Diaz. Half of Diaz's defense is his insane workrate that made his last 2 defeated opponents quit on their respective stools. When Diaz is trained out of his brawler mentality he is a monster. His defense against Cotto was genius- any time you can weather an opponent throwing an onslaught of 100+ punches in the first 3 rounds and make it look easy means you know how to defend. The loss will do Diaz a lot of good and he will return to doing the things his team has wanted him to do to not only be more well-rounded but extend his career if he wants.
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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    Quote Originally Posted by liquid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Katsidis by KO. Diaz also has leaky defense and gets hit a lot, as does Katsidis, but I feel that Katsidis has a power advantage and that he'll be able to match or exceed Diaz' work rate. Nate Campbell almost stopped Diaz, so it's not like he's some unstoppable. Katsidis will stop him.
    Nate Campbell almost stopped Diaz with what? Diaz's problem is he's a natural brawler without power. Campbell beat Diaz simply because he outslicked him. Any fighter who doesn't have that kind of finesse doesn't stand a chance against Diaz. Half of Diaz's defense is his insane workrate that made his last 2 defeated opponents quit on their respective stools. When Diaz is trained out of his brawler mentality he is a monster. His defense against Cotto was genius- any time you can weather an opponent throwing an onslaught of 100+ punches in the first 3 rounds and make it look easy means you know how to defend. The loss will do Diaz a lot of good and he will return to doing the things his team has wanted him to do to not only be more well-rounded but extend his career if he wants.
    I didn't mean he almost stopped him in that he dropped him or anything, but Diaz' eye was a mess and there were times where it looked like he wasn't going to come out for the next round. I probably should've said something like it looked like he was in danger of being stopped or that it looked like he could've been stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    Katsidis by KO. Diaz also has leaky defense and gets hit a lot, as does Katsidis, but I feel that Katsidis has a power advantage and that he'll be able to match or exceed Diaz' work rate. Nate Campbell almost stopped Diaz, so it's not like he's some unstoppable. Katsidis will stop him.
    Nate Campbell almost stopped Diaz with what? Diaz's problem is he's a natural brawler without power. Campbell beat Diaz simply because he outslicked him. Any fighter who doesn't have that kind of finesse doesn't stand a chance against Diaz. Half of Diaz's defense is his insane workrate that made his last 2 defeated opponents quit on their respective stools. When Diaz is trained out of his brawler mentality he is a monster. His defense against Cotto was genius- any time you can weather an opponent throwing an onslaught of 100+ punches in the first 3 rounds and make it look easy means you know how to defend. The loss will do Diaz a lot of good and he will return to doing the things his team has wanted him to do to not only be more well-rounded but extend his career if he wants.
    I didn't mean he almost stopped him in that he dropped him or anything, but Diaz' eye was a mess and there were times where it looked like he wasn't going to come out for the next round. I probably should've said something like it looked like he was in danger of being stopped or that it looked like he could've been stopped.
    Didn't the ring doctor approach his corner at one point and checked him out? That should indicate that the fight was close of being stopped.
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    Default Re: Juan Diaz vs Michael Katsidis

    You guys are out of your damn gourds. Diaz is going to smoke Katsidis.

    After Juan is through with him Katsidis will never be on a major card in America again.

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