Sam Langford had 57 fights against 12 Hall of Famers!

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This was from another thread, after I did some boxrecing a couple weeks ago.

On cyberboxing zone, they list some of his fights with Jeannette as no decisions, but they're listed as draws in boxrec.

57 fights against 12 Hall of Famers for a record of 22-19, with 13 draws and 3 No-Decisions.

1-0 against Joe Gans
0-0-1 against Barbados Joe Walcott
0-1 against Jack Johnson
1-0 against Tiger Flowers
2-0 against Dixie Kid
1-0-1 against George Godfrey
1-0 against Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
1-0 against Kid Norfolk
1-0 against Stanley Ketchel
7-3-4 against Joe Jeannette
5-2-5 (2 ND) against Sam McVea
2-13-2 (1 ND) against Harry Wills




1903:

W PTS 15 Joe Gans

1904:

D PTS 15 Barbados Joe Walcott

1905:

L TKO 8 Joe Jeannette

1906:

W PTS 15 Joe Jeannette
L PTS 15 Jack Johnson

1907:

D PTS 12 Joe Jeannette

1908:

D PTS 12 Joe Jeannette
D NWS 6 Joe Jeannette

1909:

W RTD 6 Dixie Kid

1910:

W KO 3 Dixie Kid
W NWS 6 Stanley Ketchel
W PTS 15 Joe Jeannette

1911:

W PTS 12 Joe Jeannette
D PTS 20 Sam McVea
W TKO 5 Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
W NWS 10 Joe Jeannette
L PTS 20 Sam McVea

1912:

W PTS 20 Sam McVea
W PTS 20 Sam McVea
W TKO 11 Sam McVea
W TKO 13 Sam McVea

1913:

D PTS 20 Sam McVea
D NWS 10 Joe Jeannette
W PTS 20 Joe Jeannette

1914:

L PTS 10 Harry Wills
L NWS 10 Joe Jeannette
W KO 14 Harry Wills

1915:

L PTS 12 Joe Jeannette
L PTS 12 Sam McVea
D PTS 20 Sam McVea
ND 10 Sam McVea
L NWS 10 Harry Wills

1916:

L PTS 20 Harry Wills
W KO 19 Harry Wills
D NWS 10 Sam McVea
L NWS 10 Harry Wills
W NWS 10 Sam McVea
L NWS 8 Harry Wills
ND 12 Sam McVea
W KO 7 Joe Jeannette
D PTS 20 Sam McVea

1917:

D NWS 6 Harry Wills
W NWS 12 Joe Jeannette
L NWS 10 Harry Wills
L NWS 12 Harry Wills
W KO 2 Kid Norfolk

1918:

L KO 6 Harry Wills
L TKO 7 Harry Wills

1919:

L NWS 8 Harry Wills
ND 10 Harry Wills
L PTS 15 Harry Wills

1920:

L PTS 15 Harry Wills
D PTS 10 George Godfrey
W NWS 10 Sam McVea
W KO 2 George Godfrey

1922:

L PTS 10 Harry Wills
W KO 2 Tiger Flowers


I left out Jack Blackburn as he is the HOF, but more because of his training of Louis. He is in there as a "Non-Participant".

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Ezzard Charles: 24 fights against 9 Hall of Famers for a record of 18-6 with 2 KOs.

• 1-0 (0) against Teddy Yarosz
• 2-0 (0) against Charley Burley
• 5-0 (0) against Joey Maxim
• 1-0 (0) against Joe Louis
• 0-1 (0) against Harold Johnson
• 2-2 (0) against Jersey Joe Walcott
• 4-1 (1) against Jimmy Bivins
• 0-2 (0) against Rocky Marciano
• 3-0 (1) against Archie Moore

1941:

• 1-0 against Teddy Yarosz

1942:

• 2-0 against Charley Burley
• 2-0 against Joey Maxim

1943:

• 0-1 against Jimmy Bivins

1946:

• 1-0 against Jimmy Bivins
• 1-0 against Archie Moore

1947:

• 1-0 (1) against Jimmy Bivins
• 1-0 against Archie Moore

1948:

• 1-0 (1) against Archie Moore
• 1-0 against Jimmy Bivins

1949:

• 1-0 against Joey Maxim
• 1-0 against Jersey Joe Walcott

1950:

• 1-0 against Joe Louis

1951:

• 2-0 against Joey Maxim
• 1-1 against Jersey Joe Walcott

1952:

• 0-1 against Jersey Joe Walcott
• 1-0 against Jimmy Bivins

1953:

• 0-1 against Harold Johnson

1954:

• 0-2 against Rocky Marciano

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Ray Robinson had 29 fights against 12 Hall of Famers for a record of 21-7-1 (7 KOs)

3-0 (0) against Sammy Angott
2-0 (1) against Fritzie Zivic
5-1 (1) against Jake LaMotta
1-0 (0) against Henry Armstrong
2-0 (0) against Kid Gavilan
4-0 (3) against Bobo Olson
1-1 (1) against Randy Turpin
1-1 (0) against Carmen Basilio
1-2-1 (0) against Gene Fullmer
0-1 (0) against Joey Giardello
0-1 (0) against Joey Maxim
1-0 (1) against Rocky Graziano


1941:

1-0 against Sammy Angott
1-0 against Fritzie Zivic

1942:

1-0 (1) against Fritzie Zivic
1-0 against Sammy Angott
1-0 against Jake LaMotta

1943:

1-1 against Jake LaMotta
1-0 against Henry Armstrong

1945:

2-0 against Jake LaMotta

1946:

1-0 against Sammy Angott

1948:

1-0 against Kid Gavilan

1949:

1-0 against Kid Gavilan

1950:

1-0 (1) against Bobo Olson

1951:

1-0 (1) against Jake LaMotta
1-1 (1) against Randy Turpin

1952:

1-0 against Bobo Olson
1-0 (1) against Rocky Graziano
0-1 against Joey Maxim

1955:

1-0 (1) against Bobo Olson

1956:

1-0 (1) against Bobo Olson

1957:

1-1 (1) against Gene Fullmer
0-1 against Carmen Basilio

1958:

1-0 against Carmen Basilio

1960:

0-0-1 against Gene Fullmer

1961:

0-1 against Gene Fullmer

1963:

0-1 against Joey Giardello

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Maxie Rosenbloom had 24 fights against 9 Hall of Famers, for a combined record of 10-11-2 with 1 no-contest

0-1 against Harry Greb
3-4 against Jimmy Slattery
0-1 against Jack Delaney
1-0-2 against Tiger Flowers
0-2 against Young Stribling
1-0 against Ted Kid Lewis
1-0 (1 no contest) against James Braddock
1-1 against Mickey Walker
3-2 against John Henry Lewis


1925:

• 0-1 against Harry Greb
• 0-1 against Jimmy Slattery

1926:

• 0-1 against Jimmy Slattery
• 0-1 against Jack Delaney
• 1-0 against Tiger Flowers

1927:

• 0-1 against Young Stribling
• 0-0-2 against Tiger Flowers
• 0-1 against Jimmy Slattery

1928:

• 1-0 against Ted Lewis

1929:

• 1-1 against Jimmy Slattery
• 1-0 against James Braddock

1930:

• 1-0 against Jimmy Slattery

1931:

• 1-0 against Jimmy Slattery
• 0-0 (1 no-contest) against James Braddock

1932:

• 1-0 against John Henry Lewis

1933:

• 0-2 against John Henry Lewis
• 0-1 against Young Stribling
• 1-0 against Mickey Walker

1934:

• 0-1 against Mickey Walker

1935:

• 2-0 against John Henry Lewis

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Not to mention Langford is the widely regarded as the most avoided heavyweight of all time yet he campaigned all the way down from lightweight. Simply amazing, wish I could see him fight I've read a lot about him.

[p4pking]

Not to mention Langford is the widely regarded as the most avoided heavyweight of all time yet he campaigned all the way down from lightweight. Simply amazing, wish I could see him fight I've read a lot about him.

Yea same, really wish I could just see any footage of him... To think he beat Joe Gans as a lightweight and fought all those monster HW's like Willis so many times is ridiculous, and yet he kept on fighting and fighting wel into his later years even after he was almost completely blind, and people still didn't want to fight him.

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The issue is whilst the record does speak you need to see them fight.

You and I have read sooo much about boxers and then when we see them we're like huh.....

I remember when Orzubek had a little streak going then he beat Gamache and people were prasing Orzubek like something special then I saw him fight and I was like... OK what's the bigg fuzz?

Samething applies for Greb and the rest of those fighters whom I can't see footage on. They are great "so I've read" but how far a long does that do for me if my eyes can't see it?

That's why I've said it time and time again unless I've seen a fighter fight several times I really wont commment and I refuse to rank or rate them. Even fighters like Pep and Loi I've only ever seen about 5, 6 fight and yes they look good but I can't fully comment on them as to see 5 fights on fighter who had over 100 fights is IMO a bit dumb.