Temptation.

[Fenster]

1. Childhood sweetheart
2. Baby
3. Don't wank/watch porn
4. Moved from London to Portsmouth (with mum?)
5. Bang in love with bird from gym

Very interesting.

Hey Ice, are you still cleaning up in the second-hand playstation game business?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Honestly bud...if its a question at this very early stage ,you know the answer.You can relocate yeh but the wandering eyes and seeking fondness are what needs to change.Your just into the world of marriage so its time to rip open the chest and ask why your tempted...are you looking to something or away from something.Find out now and dont drag the child and one you stated love for into the abyss...btw,do you happen to know HER status?Ahhh... shutting up now.

Am I the only one who doesn't really think this is that unusual or that big of a deal?

There doesn't have to be anything wrong with his current relationship. I don't think it's a case of looking for a way out necessarily but rather a case of just being two things, 1) young, and 2) a man.

We are all attracted to girls no matter what age or how great your current relationship is. He's 20 years old, to stay faithful to a girl forever now would be VERY VERY unusual in this day and age, in fact I've never met a guy who has managed it, even amongst those who go to church.

I wouldn't feel too bad about yourself Ice, you're young and you are going to be attracted to many, many girls over the course of your lifetime.

I don't see why you can't stay with your current girlfriend or that you should feel too guilty.

She may not yet, but in time she too will meet some guy and be tempted, it's called human nature and everyone does it when they are young.

You only live once mate, go where your heart takes you and have the experiences that you want in life. Try and be honest with people but if you were to accept right now that for the rest of your life you were never going to be with anyone else apart from your current girl, well, what would be the point of carrying on?

You'll end up like Miles, bitter and angry, with all the joy sucked out of your being, and maybe even being groped by other men who clearly have also gone nuts through the miseries of married life.

Human nature mate, but we have to pretend it's wrong and we have to pretend there's this thing called love which dictates we'll only ever fall for one person.

ICB said nothing about love.

And there are very specific hormones/chemical responses that produce that 'love' feeling so it is real, just depends how you want to describe or debate what triggers it.

Yes, and most of us men get those specific hormones and chemical responses to many women.

So you're saying this real love is wrong now?

lust and love are not the same thing.

[Kev]

Honestly bud...if its a question at this very early stage ,you know the answer.You can relocate yeh but the wandering eyes and seeking fondness are what needs to change.Your just into the world of marriage so its time to rip open the chest and ask why your tempted...are you looking to something or away from something.Find out now and dont drag the child and one you stated love for into the abyss...btw,do you happen to know HER status?Ahhh... shutting up now.

Am I the only one who doesn't really think this is that unusual or that big of a deal?

There doesn't have to be anything wrong with his current relationship. I don't think it's a case of looking for a way out necessarily but rather a case of just being two things, 1) young, and 2) a man.

We are all attracted to girls no matter what age or how great your current relationship is. He's 20 years old, to stay faithful to a girl forever now would be VERY VERY unusual in this day and age, in fact I've never met a guy who has managed it, even amongst those who go to church.

I wouldn't feel too bad about yourself Ice, you're young and you are going to be attracted to many, many girls over the course of your lifetime.

I don't see why you can't stay with your current girlfriend or that you should feel too guilty.

She may not yet, but in time she too will meet some guy and be tempted, it's called human nature and everyone does it when they are young.

You only live once mate, go where your heart takes you and have the experiences that you want in life. Try and be honest with people but if you were to accept right now that for the rest of your life you were never going to be with anyone else apart from your current girl, well, what would be the point of carrying on?

You'll end up like Miles, bitter and angry, with all the joy sucked out of your being, and maybe even being groped by other men who clearly have also gone nuts through the miseries of married life.

Human nature mate, but we have to pretend it's wrong and we have to pretend there's this thing called love which dictates we'll only ever fall for one person.

ICB said nothing about love.

And there are very specific hormones/chemical responses that produce that 'love' feeling so it is real, just depends how you want to describe or debate what triggers it.

Yes, and most of us men get those specific hormones and chemical responses to many women.

So you're saying this real love is wrong now?

lust and love are not the same thing.

so some chemicals and hormones release lust, some release love. How do you know which is which?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

yawn. you bore me

[Spicoli]

Very insightful.Must say,I'm choosing my words carefully but is it also valid that the same intense "love" can see one led to stray from a marriage,an oath?I believe the physical is secondary with the right one,and you know it when you have it...shit,not to go Dr.Phil but any idiot can tussle in the sheets but love wins out,without it you have nothing worth owning.Wish we needed 1k posts to view this thread

[Diane]

Is it okay to be attracted to someone while in a serious relationship with another? Of course it is, it's human nature, but acting on that attraction while with someone, let alone someone that has your child, hell no it's not okay (hush Violent Demise ).

Have I ever been really attracted to a guy while in a serious relationship? Hell yes! But I never acted on it.

As the saying goes "It's okay to look at the menu, as long as you go home to eat".

How would you feel if you found out your girl kissed a guy that she was attracted to?

[Nameless]

Is it okay to be attracted to someone while in a serious relationship with another? Of course it is, it's human nature, but acting on that attraction while with someone, let alone someone that has your child, hell no it's not okay (hush Violent Demise ).

Have I ever been really attracted to a guy while in a serious relationship? Hell yes! But I never acted on it.

As the saying goes "It's okay to look at the menu, as long as you go home to eat".

How would you feel if you found out your girl kissed a guy that she was attracted to?

Well... there is not much else to say. Diane did sum it up very well.

[ono]

Honestly bud...if its a question at this very early stage ,you know the answer.You can relocate yeh but the wandering eyes and seeking fondness are what needs to change.Your just into the world of marriage so its time to rip open the chest and ask why your tempted...are you looking to something or away from something.Find out now and dont drag the child and one you stated love for into the abyss...btw,do you happen to know HER status?Ahhh... shutting up now.

Am I the only one who doesn't really think this is that unusual or that big of a deal?

There doesn't have to be anything wrong with his current relationship. I don't think it's a case of looking for a way out necessarily but rather a case of just being two things, 1) young, and 2) a man.

We are all attracted to girls no matter what age or how great your current relationship is. He's 20 years old, to stay faithful to a girl forever now would be VERY VERY unusual in this day and age, in fact I've never met a guy who has managed it, even amongst those who go to church.

I wouldn't feel too bad about yourself Ice, you're young and you are going to be attracted to many, many girls over the course of your lifetime.

I don't see why you can't stay with your current girlfriend or that you should feel too guilty.

She may not yet, but in time she too will meet some guy and be tempted, it's called human nature and everyone does it when they are young.

You only live once mate, go where your heart takes you and have the experiences that you want in life. Try and be honest with people but if you were to accept right now that for the rest of your life you were never going to be with anyone else apart from your current girl, well, what would be the point of carrying on?

You'll end up like Miles, bitter and angry, with all the joy sucked out of your being, and maybe even being groped by other men who clearly have also gone nuts through the miseries of married life.

Human nature mate, but we have to pretend it's wrong and we have to pretend there's this thing called love which dictates we'll only ever fall for one person.

ICB said nothing about love.

And there are very specific hormones/chemical responses that produce that 'love' feeling so it is real, just depends how you want to describe or debate what triggers it.

Yes, and most of us men get those specific hormones and chemical responses to many women.

So you're saying this real love is wrong now?

lust and love are not the same thing.

Well actually lust and attraction form a big part of the 'love ' process. That and 'attachment'. The lust and attraction staqe is temporary, it's the attachment that allows couples to stay in long relationship. It's even fair to say that the attachment is related to a routine or specific activities which you can share with your partner, rather than actually just being attached to your partner. Not my words, but the words of anthropology professor Helen Fisher.

ICE seems to be hanging on in the attachment stage, where as this new girl is giving him chance to go back to the exciting lust and attraction stage. Too bad he doesn't watch porn. It would probably save his relationship right now

[Spicoli]

Shite I hate I phones in this situation .But is the to automatically equate lust with sex or simply a lust for ones company...sort of all goes hand in hand?The attachment 'stage' can be sharing an activity from sex to a cup of coffee....familiarity.I think it's possible to form an attachment right off without being physical.But I digress,I dropped out of highschool twice in one week afterall.

[ono]

Shite I hate I phones in this situation .But is the to automatically equate lust with sex or simply a lust for ones company...sort of all goes hand in hand?The attachment 'stage' can be sharing an activity from sex to a cup of coffee....familiarity.I think it's possible to form an attachment right off without being physical.But I digress,I dropped out of highschool twice in one week afterall.

Sort of, but i think the lust Helen Fisher is referring to is the sexual lust. The one ICE is experiencing with gym girl.

[OumaFan]

Miles is the moral compass of saddoboxing.com. BTW Miles I was just thinking Amir Khan tweets a lot and for the enjoyment of the forum as a whole I thought we could set you up with a twitter account, that way you can harass him through twitter and you two can get in long vicious tweet offs. I say we do it. Do it.

And Ice don't have sex with her. Or do have sex with her. Good luck.

[Saddo]

Is it okay to be attracted to someone while in a serious relationship with another? Of course it is, it's human nature, but acting on that attraction while with someone, let alone someone that has your child, hell no it's not okay (hush Violent Demise ).

Have I ever been really attracted to a guy while in a serious relationship? Hell yes! But I never acted on it.

As the saying goes "It's okay to look at the menu, as long as you go home to eat".

How would you feel if you found out your girl kissed a guy that she was attracted to?

well put

lust and love are not the same thing.

what is his LUST is so strong that he would LOVE to ram his dick in her

is that a form of love

[Snakey]

I have actually been the other person in this situation (the person out of the relationship who hooks up with the chick in a relationship). Mate I will tell you right now its a bad situation you need to end quite quickly. Mine happened around a yr ago and I am still dealing with the effects of it.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Is it okay to be attracted to someone while in a serious relationship with another? Of course it is, it's human nature, but acting on that attraction while with someone, let alone someone that has your child, hell no it's not okay (hush Violent Demise ).

Have I ever been really attracted to a guy while in a serious relationship? Hell yes! But I never acted on it.

As the saying goes "It's okay to look at the menu, as long as you go home to eat".

How would you feel if you found out your girl kissed a guy that she was attracted to?

well put

lust and love are not the same thing.

what is his LUST is so strong that he would LOVE to ram his dick in her

is that a form of love

not quite saddo but thanks for posting

[Violent Demise]

What do they teach the youngsters in the UK? Seems like females wear the pants over there. I mean you got 17 year olds driving them insane. And you got 20 year olds who already been tied down for years. I mean come on. These fools should be in there fucking prime. Changing girls like they change shirts. Not worrying if the girl really like him cuz she ain't text back. And not wondering if he's doing something wrong by thinking about cheating. Act already. Jesus Christ this is sad. What kind of fucked up morals are being thought over there? Not only has he not acted on his desires. But he's feeling guilty at just the thought of doing it. WTF? That's just wrong.

Check it Ice. I'm a give you some advice. Don't worry what anybody else says. Just what i tell you. You'll thank me down the line. Have sex with the girl. Find out if she has a sister and try and have sex with her too if possible. Think about it. Your 20 years old. You go to the gym a lot. So you stay in shape. You foolishly deny yourself the finer things in life by not drinking or doing drugs. So unless you get hit by a bus or something chances are you gonna a live for a pretty fucking long time. Lets say you see 85. That's 65 years. Do you really want to only experience the same female for 65 years? 65. That's like 65 fucking years. That's a long time. That's almost hell like. People like apples. But ain't nobody trying to eat just apples for the next 65 years. They want oranges, grapes and all them muthafukkin fruits as well. You do too. Go out there and get yourself a fucking fruit basket.

Tied down at 20? That's just wrong. When I was 20 I had 3 sisters bust all the windows in my car with baseball bats. Than they torched it. I think them finding out i had fucked all 3 of them might of bothered them a little.