Tomasz Adamek, is he really a big deal as a heavyweight, really??

[Kev]

It seems like Tomasz Adamek is getting almost as much attention as David Haye these days and is considered the fourth best fighter in the division by most pundits and experts now.

I am completely unconvinced and fail to see what is impressive about him at all as a heavyweight.

I think it's relative. What I mean by that is people are impressed because he has come up from the lower weight classes and so people are impressed he's able to hang with bigger guys. But in absolute terms I don't see what he has done to make us think he's better than the likes of Solis, Eddie Chambers, Povetkin, or even Chagaev, Thompson, Gomez etc?

He beat a Chris Arreola who only had one arm for much of the fight, and Arreola hasn't looked good for ages. And then he went life and death with Michael Grant. This was seen as a great win over a big man, but come on be honest, most of you, just like me, had assumed Michael Grant had retired 10 years ago hadn't you? I'd never even heard of him being on the boxing scene and a win over him is no more impressive than if Paul Williams had moved up to middleweight and won a close 12 rounder against William Joppy or Keith Holmes.

It's such a weird hype train, all I see is a little man who will get wrecked if he ever gets in the ring with either Klitschko, or Solis, Thompson, Gomez, and maybe Haye for that matter.

Don't see the interest in him at all. His amazing 'skill' is relative as well. Compared to some of the joke heavies sure, but against a real skilful fighter like Chad Dawson he was crap and apart from a flash knockdown lost virtually every single round.

He didn't beat anyone at cruiserweight, just an O'Neil Bell on self destruct who quit and then won a SD against the 'not bad but certainly nothing exceptional' Steve Cunningham.

He's had an easy ride to the top and already has looked vulnerable.

Just don't see the appeal whatsoever. I know Solis has not stepped up yet, but its clear for anyone who has seen him fight that he is above Adamek and Haye imo.

These two will be done and dusted by this time next time year.

So, does anyone else agree with me that Adamek is the most overrated heavyweight right now? Or am I mad?

[armin]

I don't see how someone can't be behind adamek, never in a dull fight really. Heart and desire all the way. As for ripping his resume at heavy, I wouldn't say haye's is much more impressive, if at all. I don't think he can beat either klitscko and that is due to their skill and size differential, anyone else he has a decent chance against I think. Grant as old as he is, is still a 6'7 dude and eventually that alone will make it difficult for a small dude like adamek. He's just a no nonsense guy and comes to fight, fights often and doesn't do more talking than fighting. Wish him all the best and should be fine at heavy that is till he gets in there with a klitschko.

[Kev]

I don't see how someone can't be behind adamek, never in a dull fight really. Heart and desire all the way. As for ripping his resume at heavy, I wouldn't say haye's is much more impressive, if at all. I don't think he can beat either klitscko and that is due to their skill and size differential, anyone else he has a decent chance against I think. Grant as old as he is, is still a 6'7 dude and eventually that alone will make it difficult for a small dude like adamek. He's just a no nonsense guy and comes to fight, fights often and doesn't do more talking than fighting. Wish him all the best and should be fine at heavy that is till he gets in there with a klitschko.

Yeah I agree with those points I just think Eddie Chambers for example is better, and is anyone excited about him? Hell no!

If he hadn't come up from the lower weight classes nobody would be interested in him based on his performances so far.

[armin]

I don't see how someone can't be behind adamek, never in a dull fight really. Heart and desire all the way. As for ripping his resume at heavy, I wouldn't say haye's is much more impressive, if at all. I don't think he can beat either klitscko and that is due to their skill and size differential, anyone else he has a decent chance against I think. Grant as old as he is, is still a 6'7 dude and eventually that alone will make it difficult for a small dude like adamek. He's just a no nonsense guy and comes to fight, fights often and doesn't do more talking than fighting. Wish him all the best and should be fine at heavy that is till he gets in there with a klitschko.

Yeah I agree with those points I just think Eddie Chambers for example is better, and is anyone excited about him? Hell no!

If he hadn't come up from the lower weight classes nobody would be interested in him based on his performances so far.

While I think him coming from the lower weight classes has some to do with it, I think the bigger reason is his style. His fight with arreola I thought was one of the more exciting heavyweight match ups in a while, the kind of fight that gets the casual viewer interested. Eddie Chambers on the other hand being more defensively oriented, just doesn't create that sort of buzz.

[SweetPea]

I think Adamek is the 4th best heavyweight in the world. Do I think he can beat the Klitschko's? No. But he's a legit professional who has skills, trains hard, and makes good fights, and makes him unlike most of the other guys out there. It's not his fault the division sucks

[Kev]

I think Adamek is the 4th best heavyweight in the world. Do I think he can beat the Klitschko's? No. But he's a legit professional who has skills, trains hard, and makes good fights, and makes him unlike most of the other guys out there. It's not his fault the division sucks

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

[El Kabong]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

[rjj tszyu]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

Haye would stop Adamek quicker than either Klit and that I can guarantee.

[armin]

You really think he beats Povetkin, Solis, Gomez, Thompson, Chagaev etc based on what you have seen?

Cos I think he loses all those fights.

I don't think he loses ALL of those fights...but Tomaz at least has the balls to fight anyone that's willing to give him a shot and I think THAT is the reason people are high on him at the moment.

Wlad or Vitali stomp him easy, but to the other heavyweights Adamek is a serious threat

Haye would stop Adamek quicker than either Klit and that I can guarantee.

I very much doubt that. It's not as if haye has been blasting opponents out within a round at heavyweight! Adamek is sturdy took shots from arreola fine for the most part. Given that tho even tho haye MIGHT stop adamek quicker, adamek would also have a decent shot at beating haye, and pretty much almost no chance against either klit.

[chinchekked]

I don't think that it is an unfair sentiment but I think that it is not so much an intentional hype job more so than an indictment of the majority of the heavyweight division.Adamek has good skills and so forth just as sweetpea said but if the division were deeper then people wouldn't get excited over him AS QUICKLY as they have. Time will tell.......I guess

[CFH]

He's too small for the division and I don't think he has a chance against either Klitschko. I think Haye would do a number on him too.

[ICB]

It seems like Tomasz Adamek is getting almost as much attention as David Haye these days and is considered the fourth best fighter in the division by most pundits and experts now.

I am completely unconvinced and fail to see what is impressive about him at all as a heavyweight.

I think it's relative. What I mean by that is people are impressed because he has come up from the lower weight classes and so people are impressed he's able to hang with bigger guys. But in absolute terms I don't see what he has done to make us think he's better than the likes of Solis, Eddie Chambers, Povetkin, or even Chagaev, Thompson, Gomez etc?

He beat a Chris Arreola who only had one arm for much of the fight, and Arreola hasn't looked good for ages. And then he went life and death with Michael Grant. This was seen as a great win over a big man, but come on be honest, most of you, just like me, had assumed Michael Grant had retired 10 years ago hadn't you? I'd never even heard of him being on the boxing scene and a win over him is no more impressive than if Paul Williams had moved up to middleweight and won a close 12 rounder against William Joppy or Keith Holmes.

It's such a weird hype train, all I see is a little man who will get wrecked if he ever gets in the ring with either Klitschko, or Solis, Thompson, Gomez, and maybe Haye for that matter.

Don't see the interest in him at all. His amazing 'skill' is relative as well. Compared to some of the joke heavies sure, but against a real skilful fighter like Chad Dawson he was crap and apart from a flash knockdown lost virtually every single round.

He didn't beat anyone at cruiserweight, just an O'Neil Bell on self destruct who quit and then won a SD against the 'not bad but certainly nothing exceptional' Steve Cunningham.

He's had an easy ride to the top and already has looked vulnerable.

Just don't see the appeal whatsoever. I know Solis has not stepped up yet, but its clear for anyone who has seen him fight that he is above Adamek and Haye imo.

These two will be done and dusted by this time next time year.

So, does anyone else agree with me that Adamek is the most overrated heavyweight right now? Or am I mad?

Bilbo you keep saying flash knockdown everytime you mention Tomasz Adamek, it wasn't a flash knockdown he hurt Chad Dawson with that knockdown. And he won all the remaining rounds after that knockdown, so it was nowhere near a flash knockdown.

Steve Cunningham is probably the best Cruiserweight Tomasz Adamek could have fought, why are you criticizing him for that ? who else could he have fought better than Steve Cunningham ? and a win over O'Neil Bell was impressive aswell. A fighter i seem to remember you thinking could have beaten David Haye.

Many people thought Chris Arreola would beat Tomasz Adamek, i don't know all about this one arm business. But it certainly didn't seem that way when i watched it. If Chris Arreola was good enough to fight Vitali Klitschko, then he should be good enough for Tomasz Adamek, and i can't see how anyone wouldn't be impressed with that win.

Thats ridiculous Bilbo, thats nothing like Paul Williams moving up to fight Keith Holmes or William Joppy. So those fighters have over 11 inch reach advantage, 6 inch height advantage. Aswell as 44 pounds weight advantage ?

Yes Michael Grant has seen better days, but just for the physical disadvantages alone Tomasz Adamek deserves credit.

Lastly i don't think anyone's really sold on him as Heavyweight, i just think as you said. People are impressed he can hang with bigger guys, and he's exciting and in shape. Which is pretty rare for Heavyweight's.