Throwback james toney vs denis lebedev november 5 !!!

[FinitoElDinamita]

Both parties want it. toney is calling out all russians and lebedevs camp has accepted. Who wins? Btw, the fight with ufc guy sham has been thrown in the trash for now. Sham would have got beatdown anyways.

[captainanddew]

how is Toney going to get down to cruiser Unless Lebedev is going to agree of a catch-weight like 210 or so I don't see how Toney could make weight. Even making 210 would be absolutely amazing for Buffet James Toney.

[Mars_ax]

how is Toney going to get down to cruiser Unless Lebedev is going to agree of a catch-weight like 210 or so I don't see how Toney could make weight. Even making 210 would be absolutely amazing for Buffet James Toney.

That's what i'm thinking, maybe Toney expects Lebedev to fight him at HW, at this point I believe Toney is just fucking crazy.

[FinitoElDinamita]

I guess you didnt know but toney has been down to 213 for over a month now. If hes not drained like hoya was against pac, I can see him winning. Lebedev isnt very good. Roy fought him well up until the ko so imagine what toney would do.

[Mars_ax]

I guess you didnt know but toney has been down to 213 for over a month now. If hes not drained like hoya was against pac, I can see him winning. Lebedev isnt very good. Roy fought him well up until the ko so imagine what toney would do.

Toney is 43 now, I don't care what his weight is, I don't see him defeating Lebedev, nor do I have any interest in seeing that fight.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Both parties want it. toney is calling out all russians and lebedevs camp has accepted. Who wins? Btw, the fight with ufc guy sham has been thrown in the trash for now. Sham would have got beatdown anyways.

you're delusional dude, Shamrock would have gotten another submission win, he's shot in MMA but lets not forget Toney is no MMA fighter, he would get taken down just like he did against Couture and then choked out

[Gandalf]

Good fight and one I can see Toney winning. His weight is already down, now stick him in a camp with a focus on skills and what he needs to do to win and he has a very fair shot of busting up someone as crude as Lebedev. Bring it on I say.

[FinitoElDinamita]

I had roy up on the cards against lebedev as well as one of the judges but it was his poor punch resistance that failed him ultimately. Well toney dont have that problem . He can always take a good punch but he wont have to once his shoulders get goin.lebedev is a bigger david diaz, only slower.old mongoose james toney isnt losing to no david diaz.lol

[ross]

Lebedev isnt even 6 foot so Toney wont be dwarfed and is now used to holding his own with much stronger men and yeah iv been reading about his weight for about 3 weeks. He will make 200 easy.

His balance will be better and his speed plus I dont think Lebedev is anything special either. Certainly not as good as Jirov was. The only thing against Toney is his age.

[rjj tszyu]

IF Toney gets down to 200, he will win this fight easily. I think he can get down there easily enough too. It's not as though it is muscle he is trying to shift. Look how much FAT Hatton had to shift for his fights and he was a much smaller man too. I personally think that 200lbs is perfect for Toney right now, and providing he trains right I can see him beating everyone down there and that includes Huck.

He may be old but I think he has far too much in ring smarts and chin for anyone down in the very shallow CW division, and I fully expect a 200lbs Toney to beat Lebedev up.

[rjj tszyu]

Both parties want it. toney is calling out all russians and lebedevs camp has accepted. Who wins? Btw, the fight with ufc guy sham has been thrown in the trash for now. Sham would have got beatdown anyways.

you're delusional dude, Shamrock would have gotten another submission win, he's shot in MMA but lets not forget Toney is no MMA fighter, he would get taken down just like he did against Couture and then choked out

Don't forget Shamrock would only have 30 seconds to get Toney out otherwise it would be brought back to a standup fight. It took Couture a lot longer than that to get Toney out and he had a lot more left in the locker than Shamrock has. Add to that the fact that Shamrock isn't as clever as Couture and probably would have tried exchanging one or two strikes with Toney and to me that spells the end. From 2005 to 2008 Shamrock was knocked out with punches 5 times in a row by much less skilled punchers than Toney.

I'm not for one minute saying he'd have taken Shamrock in his prime, but in the MMA fight they were setting up with the changes to the "normal" rules and taking Shamrock's recent fights and the fact he is totally shot into account, I think Toney had a decent chance.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Go JFAT!

I say kick Jean Paul Guiltiers gay butt then entice Hopkins up to Cruiserweight for a near 20 year late final showdown

[Rantcatrat]

I guess you didnt know but toney has been down to 213 for over a month now. If hes not drained like hoya was against pac, I can see him winning. Lebedev isnt very good. Roy fought him well up until the ko so imagine what toney would do.

I'll be honest I felt that could have been just a bad night by Lebedev. He's looked better in the past. In a way, however, I want him to catch a beat down because he ko'd RJJ when RJJ was way past it.

[Rantcatrat]

IF Toney gets down to 200, he will win this fight easily. I think he can get down there easily enough too. It's not as though it is muscle he is trying to shift. Look how much FAT Hatton had to shift for his fights and he was a much smaller man too. I personally think that 200lbs is perfect for Toney right now, and providing he trains right I can see him beating everyone down there and that includes Huck.

He may be old but I think he has far too much in ring smarts and chin for anyone down in the very shallow CW division, and I fully expect a 200lbs Toney to beat Lebedev up.

You're too high on Toney! Let's see if Toney can go 12 championship rounds.

[erics44]

i cant see toney winning

i dont really have anything else to say mind so perhaps it was pointless me posting on this thread

soz