Donaire vs. Rigondeaux - Saturday night fight/chat thread

[Scott22]

I consider Rigo to be like baseballs Ichiro Suzuki. A superstar player in Japan who came to US and had instant success. Technically he was a rookie since it was his first year in the league. But everybody knew he was no rookie. What he was, was a superstar, future hall of famer. Rigo is not a young fighter who's raw and still has things to learn. What he is, is a really good fighter who is a legit threat to Donaire. He doesn't have many fights as a pro. But that doesn't matter. He's already the fighter he's gonna be. He's not still learning. His amateur career was a long one because he's Cuban. If not he would of turned pro a long time ago.

[Andre]

Think I may even buy this one.
Donaire by ko mid way 5th.

For this weight he summons power from every portion of a move, also can take a shot to give back an unseen counter, theres no skill or training to prepare for that kind of stuff.

[Spicoli]

Me, I call this a flip um fight. Rigo has hands just as fast as Donaire. Difference is delivery and temperment of both frankly. They both are guilty of 'waiting around'. Donaire as of late tries to look like a set up ko artist and can indeed be outhustled with a guy who can get off in between his stride and then slide off. Donaire has had his head in the clouds and counting division trinkets and while his "unofficial" size should suit him well vs Rigo he is certainly no defensive wizard in there. Rigo needs to pick his pockets with flurries...left hook! and Donaire needs to get small, tight and time him coming in. You can throw the amatuer huff and puff out the window, neither needs it here.

[Violent Demise]

I consider Rigo to be like baseballs Ichiro Suzuki. A superstar player in Japan who came to US and had instant success. Technically he was a rookie since it was his first year in the league. But everybody knew he was no rookie. What he was, was a superstar, future hall of famer. Rigo is not a young fighter who's raw and still has things to learn. What he is, is a really good fighter who is a legit threat to Donaire. He doesn't have many fights as a pro. But that doesn't matter. He's already the fighter he's gonna be. He's not still learning. His amateur career was a long one because he's Cuban. If not he would of turned pro a long time ago.

That's actually a pretty good fucking comparison. It's true. Rigondeaux is not the same as other 11-0 fighters. He's pretty much a vet in the sport of boxing

[ykdadamaja]

I really think this is going to come down to who gets off first and continually gets off first. So far Rigon has now shown me that he knows how to get off first- maybe he may surprise us this time around. He has a ways to go during training camp, so there is some time to work on his aggression.

But as it stands now, even if it comes down to who does more damage from their counter-punching, one would have to say that Donaire has proven he can not only counter-punch but also BE HIT and HIT BACK!!

Donaire by at least 8, maybe in 7, depending on if he starts off fast and times Rigon.

[ykdadamaja]

I consider Rigo to be like baseballs Ichiro Suzuki. A superstar player in Japan who came to US and had instant success. Technically he was a rookie since it was his first year in the league. But everybody knew he was no rookie. What he was, was a superstar, future hall of famer. Rigo is not a young fighter who's raw and still has things to learn. What he is, is a really good fighter who is a legit threat to Donaire. He doesn't have many fights as a pro. But that doesn't matter. He's already the fighter he's gonna be. He's not still learning. His amateur career was a long one because he's Cuban. If not he would of turned pro a long time ago.

Four rounds at the am's, even though it's a gold medal fight, still is no comparison to being in a real prize fight and the events leading up to it- the money that's on the line; the big lights come fight night; the crooked officials in and out of your camp who have the fight fixed as much as they can; fighting a top tier athelete who has been trained to go the distance with the same intensity and has proven that he can do such things; and knowing that a loss may send you back and you may never get a title shot OR a big-money fight in quite some time afterwards, or perhaps never again.

I don't see it the same as your Japanese analogy... jmo...

[0james0]

I don't know much on either, not really, watched the odd video and that's about it.

A mate of mine has said this is the biggest fight in boxing at the minute other than Manny vs Floyd.

True?

[Rantcatrat]

I'm surprised that so many are picking Donaire over Rigo. I'm not so sure. I favor Donaire based on experience and flash, but I have to wonder, would Rigo have lost to any of the guys Donaire beat?

[ykdadamaja]

I'm surprised that so many are picking Donaire over Rigo. I'm not so sure. I favor Donaire based on experience and flash, but I have to wonder, would Rigo have lost to any of the guys Donaire beat?

Probably to Arce and/or Darchiniyan, even Darch' today at his current age!

[Violent Demise]

I consider Rigo to be like baseballs Ichiro Suzuki. A superstar player in Japan who came to US and had instant success. Technically he was a rookie since it was his first year in the league. But everybody knew he was no rookie. What he was, was a superstar, future hall of famer. Rigo is not a young fighter who's raw and still has things to learn. What he is, is a really good fighter who is a legit threat to Donaire. He doesn't have many fights as a pro. But that doesn't matter. He's already the fighter he's gonna be. He's not still learning. His amateur career was a long one because he's Cuban. If not he would of turned pro a long time ago.

Four rounds at the am's, even though it's a gold medal fight, still is no comparison to being in a real prize fight and the events leading up to it- the money that's on the line; the big lights come fight night; the crooked officials in and out of your camp who have the fight fixed as much as they can; fighting a top tier athelete who has been trained to go the distance with the same intensity and has proven that he can do such things; and knowing that a loss may send you back and you may never get a title shot OR a big-money fight in quite some time afterwards, or perhaps never again.

I don't see it the same as your Japanese analogy... jmo...

With all them years he spent in the am's, he knows all about crooked officals

[Mars_ax]

I don't know much on either, not really, watched the odd video and that's about it.

A mate of mine has said this is the biggest fight in boxing at the minute other than Manny vs Floyd.

True?

It's not THAT big of a fight, but it's a big fight for us hardcore fans, casual fans wouldn't be as interested as they would be in Pac vs. Floyd.

Donaire vs. Rigon is definitely worth a look, it could end up being a fight of the year type fight. I started looking forward to this fight as soon as it was announced.

[IamInuit]

I don't know much on either, not really, watched the odd video and that's about it.

A mate of mine has said this is the biggest fight in boxing at the minute other than Manny vs Floyd.

True?

It's not THAT big of a fight, but it's a big fight for us hardcore fans, casual fans wouldn't be as interested as they would be in Pac vs. Floyd.

Donaire vs. Rigon is definitely worth a look, it could end up being a fight of the year type fight. I started looking forward to this fight as soon as it was announced.

Well fk the casual fans. The fact that they still hold on to a Manny/Floyd fight says more then I ever could. Its totally meaningless. They probably get just as excited for the new menu at taco bell. This fight is huge.

[Spicoli]

I don't know much on either, not really, watched the odd video and that's about it.

A mate of mine has said this is the biggest fight in boxing at the minute other than Manny vs Floyd.

True?

It's not THAT big of a fight, but it's a big fight for us hardcore fans, casual fans wouldn't be as interested as they would be in Pac vs. Floyd.

Donaire vs. Rigon is definitely worth a look, it could end up being a fight of the year type fight. I started looking forward to this fight as soon as it was announced.

Well fk the casual fans. The fact that they still hold on to a Manny/Floyd fight says more then I ever could. Its totally meaningless. They probably get just as excited for the new menu at taco bell. This fight is huge.

Have you even tried the new Cool Ranch taco I confess to be giddy like a school girl

[Mars_ax]

I don't know much on either, not really, watched the odd video and that's about it.

A mate of mine has said this is the biggest fight in boxing at the minute other than Manny vs Floyd.

True?

It's not THAT big of a fight, but it's a big fight for us hardcore fans, casual fans wouldn't be as interested as they would be in Pac vs. Floyd.

Donaire vs. Rigon is definitely worth a look, it could end up being a fight of the year type fight. I started looking forward to this fight as soon as it was announced.

Well fk the casual fans. The fact that they still hold on to a Manny/Floyd fight says more then I ever could. Its totally meaningless. They probably get just as excited for the new menu at taco bell. This fight is huge.

Pac vs. Floyd is dead in the water, anyone who really knows boxing knows this, but what do you wanna bet casual fans would come out of the woodwork in droves to buy the PPV if it was ever announced.
Just saying, most fans know who Donaire is, but outside boxing circles, Rigondeaux isn't that well known.

BTW, did you know that Taco Bell is the real name of the owner?

[TitoFan]

I'm surprised that so many are picking Donaire over Rigo. I'm not so sure. I favor Donaire based on experience and flash, but I have to wonder, would Rigo have lost to any of the guys Donaire beat?

I'm gonna turn this around and ask another question. Has Rigo fought even 1/10th the quality and "who's who" of opponents Donaire has faced and beaten.... as a pro? IMO, the answer is "no". I'm all up for seeing a good fight, which I'm sure we will. But having an 11-fight pro billed as an overnight sensation and a threat to someone arguably in the top 3 current p4p rankings, is slightly odd.