Floyd ducked his way to 45-0? BS

[Beanflicker]

Just had the misfortune of reading another idiotic, revisionist history article in regards to Floyd on the main page.

Lets get this out of the way: I have no problem with people saying Floyd ducked Pac. It was a fucked up situation and the biggest fight of the century didn't happen. Whether you believe it was Floyds fault, Pacs fault, or (like me) a combination of the two egos, whatever. That's your right.

But to suggest that Floyd's spent his whole career ducking and dodging everyone with a pulse? That's just idiocy. Complete idiocy.

People forget that before Floyd became Money May and a PPV star who could call his own shots, he was one of boxing's most avoided fighters himself. Why? Because he was a mega-talented fighter who couldn't draw flies to shit. Floyd represented the worst ratio of risk/reward in the boxing for quite some time. So to write an article where you suggest that all the guys Floyd never fought in the last 15 years was because he was ducking them? Yeeeesh.

Here's a nice compilation of Floyd calling out guys since 2000.



He calls out...

-Prince Naseem (Larry Merchant laughs and alludes to the fact that Naseem is and will duck Floyd)
-Casamayor
-Frietas
-Paul Spadafora
-JLC (who he did fight twice)
-Kostya Tyszu (before he lost to Hatton)
-Shane Mosley
-De La Hoya

I'm sure someone will respond "yeah talk is cheap he never had any intention of fighting those guys." Ok, draw upon your knowledge of boxing history: has anyone ever publicly called out a guy that they wanted nothing to do with? NEVER. They either don't mention the person at all as to not draw attention to them, make excuses as to why they can't fight them, or make very non-commital statements like "we'll see how it goes" or "it's up to my promoter". Nobody ever calls out a guy by name that they want to avoid, that's just lunacy.

People talk about Mosley/Mayweather like Mayweather ducked and dodged Mosley for years and waited until he was old and senile to take the fight... what nonsense! Shane was the one ducking and dodging and making excuses about his tooth hurting and having vacations planned.



And here's Mayweather again talking about a potential Mosley fight in 2006, right after Mosley's win over Vargas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/17/sp...6&gwt=pay&_r=0

Even with the rumblings about Mayweather/Mosley when Mosley was at LW back in 99, Mosley chose to ignore Mayweather and leap to 147 for the big payday against Oscar instead.

People say the same thing about Mayweather and De la Hoya, that Floyd was picking on an old, decrepit De La Hoya... again, more revisionist nonsense.

Check this article out.

BOXING - Father and Son Trade Jabs in Buildup for Fight - NYTimes.com

Mayweather and Bob Arum were trying to set up a fight with DLH back in APRIL 2003. Floyd was willing to jump up from 135 to 154 to fight Oscar. Does that sound like a coward or a duck to you? He was willing to leap frog 140 and 147 and go directly to 154 to fight Oscar. And this wasn't old Oscar who got eaten alive by Pac. This was top 5 p4p Oscar. This was world champion Oscar, the guy who had only lost two close, controversial decisions to Trinidad and Mosley.

So why didn't this happen? Did Mayweather come to his senses and duck out? No, Oscar turned it down because he decided he had nothing to gain by fighting Mayweather.


SPORTS BRIEFING - BOXING - Mayweather's Opponent Is Rejected - NYTimes.com

^This one shows Mayweather tried to set up a match with Spadafora, but Spadafora was rejected by the commision due to him shooting his wife. Figure I'd throw that in there because there are people who actually think Floyd ducked Spadafora.

So knock it off with the revisionist history. If you want to run around saying Mayweather ducked Pac, be my guest. But don't say shit like PBF ducked his way to where he is now, because you have no clue what you're talking about.

[bradlee180]

The fights against those guys didn't happen, chum, though they all fought each other, Floyd's the odd guy out in all their primes...

None were scared of Floyd, he's doesn't destroy, he doesn't instill fear like Tyson or Liston.

[Hulk]

He fucked his way to 45-0.

[imp]

The fights against those guys didn't happen, chum, though they all fought each other, Floyd's the odd guy out in all their primes...

None were scared of Floyd, he's doesn't destroy, he doesn't instill fear like Tyson or Liston.

I agree with the bottom sentance.

Floyd doesnt instill any fear in fighters. Floyd is like prime roy jones and completely outboxes his opponents and shows he is on another level.

We can all pick holes in any fighters career but the face of boxing is floyd and the £4£ is floyd and the highest paid athlete on earth is floyd.

[powerpuncher]

i agree. i have always said that people forget that floyd wasnt always money mayweather. he used to be pretty boy floyd. he fought a lot of good fighters earlier in his career. after only being a professional for only 2 years, he was fighting very solid competition. that is almost unheard of now. once he made his jump above 135, he started selecting his competition more carefully but so does every big name in boxing once you become a superstar. i still say that other than pac, i think that cotto was the only fight that i had really wished that would have happened earlier in his career that did not.

[greynotsoold]

It isn't his fault that only 4-5 guys in his era know how to fight.

[Lineal]

Many fighters would have lost to a lot of those 45

[Beanflicker]

None were scared of Floyd, he's doesn't destroy, he doesn't instill fear like Tyson or Liston.

I'm not suggesting that any one of those guys feared anyone.

These guys did not fight Floyd because all he brought to the table at that time was an extremely tough fight. He was a master boxer and insane physical specimen who, even if you beat him, you were probably going to look like shit against. And you weren't going to make a lot of money fighting him, because he wasn't a big draw.

So after all this evidence presented about how Floyd was ACTIVELY calling out these guys and ACTIVELY trying to make these fights happen, you think Floyd was the one ducking everyone? LOL, there is no cure for stupid.

[Master]

Floyd went MIA when he had the dispute with Arum and missed on fights with Frietas/Casamajor he also could have fought Cotto/Tszyu instead of Gatti.

Floyd could have fought Hatton at light welter like Manny did.

[imp]

Floyd went MIA when he had the dispute with Arum and missed on fights with Frietas/Casamajor he also could have fought Cotto/Tszyu instead of Gatti.

Floyd could have fought Hatton at light welter like Manny did.

The no longer undefeated, hungry hatton.

Pac catches fighters on the down.
Theres so many blueprints to beat manny..none to beat floyd.

Where a good fighter like bradley is good in all areas but great in none (only heart) floyd is great in all areas when he needs to be.

[Hulk]

Floyd went MIA when he had the dispute with Arum and missed on fights with Frietas/Casamajor he also could have fought Cotto/Tszyu instead of Gatti.

Floyd could have fought Hatton at light welter like Manny did.

The no longer undefeated, hungry hatton.

Pac catches fighters on the down.
Theres so many blueprints to beat manny..none to beat floyd.

Where a good fighter like bradley is good in all areas but great in none (only heart) floyd is great in all areas when he needs to be.

Castillo left a pretty good blueprint on how to beat Floyd tho no one has had the speed, skills and nerve to replicate his success.

[imp]

Just had the misfortune of reading another idiotic, revisionist history article in regards to Floyd on the main page.

Lets get this out of the way: I have no problem with people saying Floyd ducked Pac. It was a fucked up situation and the biggest fight of the century didn't happen. Whether you believe it was Floyds fault, Pacs fault, or (like me) a combination of the two egos, whatever. That's your right.

But to suggest that Floyd's spent his whole career ducking and dodging everyone with a pulse? That's just idiocy. Complete idiocy.

People forget that before Floyd became Money May and a PPV star who could call his own shots, he was one of boxing's most avoided fighters himself. Why? Because he was a mega-talented fighter who couldn't draw flies to shit. Floyd represented the worst ratio of risk/reward in the boxing for quite some time. So to write an article where you suggest that all the guys Floyd never fought in the last 15 years was because he was ducking them? Yeeeesh.

Here's a nice compilation of Floyd calling out guys since 2000.



He calls out...

-Prince Naseem (Larry Merchant laughs and alludes to the fact that Naseem is and will duck Floyd)
-Casamayor
-Frietas
-Paul Spadafora
-JLC (who he did fight twice)
-Kostya Tyszu (before he lost to Hatton)
-Shane Mosley
-De La Hoya

I'm sure someone will respond "yeah talk is cheap he never had any intention of fighting those guys." Ok, draw upon your knowledge of boxing history: has anyone ever publicly called out a guy that they wanted nothing to do with? NEVER. They either don't mention the person at all as to not draw attention to them, make excuses as to why they can't fight them, or make very non-commital statements like "we'll see how it goes" or "it's up to my promoter". Nobody ever calls out a guy by name that they want to avoid, that's just lunacy.

People talk about Mosley/Mayweather like Mayweather ducked and dodged Mosley for years and waited until he was old and senile to take the fight... what nonsense! Shane was the one ducking and dodging and making excuses about his tooth hurting and having vacations planned.



And here's Mayweather again talking about a potential Mosley fight in 2006, right after Mosley's win over Vargas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/17/sp...6&gwt=pay&_r=0

Even with the rumblings about Mayweather/Mosley when Mosley was at LW back in 99, Mosley chose to ignore Mayweather and leap to 147 for the big payday against Oscar instead.

People say the same thing about Mayweather and De la Hoya, that Floyd was picking on an old, decrepit De La Hoya... again, more revisionist nonsense.

Check this article out.

BOXING - Father and Son Trade Jabs in Buildup for Fight - NYTimes.com

Mayweather and Bob Arum were trying to set up a fight with DLH back in APRIL 2003. Floyd was willing to jump up from 135 to 154 to fight Oscar. Does that sound like a coward or a duck to you? He was willing to leap frog 140 and 147 and go directly to 154 to fight Oscar. And this wasn't old Oscar who got eaten alive by Pac. This was top 5 p4p Oscar. This was world champion Oscar, the guy who had only lost two close, controversial decisions to Trinidad and Mosley.

So why didn't this happen? Did Mayweather come to his senses and duck out? No, Oscar turned it down because he decided he had nothing to gain by fighting Mayweather.


SPORTS BRIEFING - BOXING - Mayweather's Opponent Is Rejected - NYTimes.com

^This one shows Mayweather tried to set up a match with Spadafora, but Spadafora was rejected by the commision due to him shooting his wife. Figure I'd throw that in there because there are people who actually think Floyd ducked Spadafora.

So knock it off with the revisionist history. If you want to run around saying Mayweather ducked Pac, be my guest. But don't say shit like PBF ducked his way to where he is now, because you have no clue what you're talking about.

What a superb post.
Hat goes off to you mr.flicker.

[FinitoElDinamita]

U make some good points beans but floyd did duck Margarito in 06.. margarito even confronted him straight to his face and dude started stuttering and trembling and shit like a shook ass nigga.

[imp]

U make some good points beans but floyd did duck Margarito in 06.. margarito even confronted him straight to his face and dude started stuttering and trembling and shit like a shook ass nigga.

Wasnt floyd already signed to fight someone?

How can you make a case for a cheater like margarito my nigga?

[FinitoElDinamita]

U make some good points beans but floyd did duck Margarito in 06.. margarito even confronted him straight to his face and dude started stuttering and trembling and shit like a shook ass nigga.

Wasnt floyd already signed to fight someone?

How can you make a case for a cheater like margarito my nigga?

Nope, he wasnt signed to fight anyone at the time.. he was given a choice between margarito and baldomir and he took the easy way out... and I dont want you guys boosting up baldomir as a if he was some real undisputed champ cuz u know that's lame.. joe blow baldo is a bum.

Im just speaking facts, im not defending margo..