Cotto v Geale Thread

[Spicoli]

That's what got me on rewatch. Not only did Kanye Cotto strip off the limit of division..he didn't even see fit to put on a 1/2 pound to at least come in at "middle" . This is just embarrassing...and here he was being fawned over as lineal, all time great, elite and compared to Joe fookin Frazier with classic hooks . Yes. Catchweight got out of control and became its own monstrosity and mockery and the establishment just sits slack jawed and plays along. Feeds the ruse. This is a slippery slope for a sport that is already laughed at and struggles to be taken seriously.

[TitoFan]

So now Geale is garbage eh. You really cant make this shit up. The guy comes in as half a man to fight for a title he was not allowed to make weight for, looks like death warmed over at the weigh in and appears weakened from the opening bell. Why the need for a catch with this garbage? Why any celebration at all over this win? Its tainted tuna. The Hbo kissing ass after the fight was almost as bad as the script given to Geale. The real middleweight champion was barely mentioned and instead they concentrate on yet another non middleweight fight. So speaking of garbage, what kind of trash is he going to try and pass on to Alvarez? I mean Cotto was under 154. Whats he doing at 160 when he has no inclination of defending 160? Why does the establishment allow this open cheating?

Garbage indeed.

Wow! Geale was asked to lose 3 whole goddamn pounds below his normal fighting weight. That has to be a first in the history of boxing!! No wonder the hatemongers are out in force. I'm surprised there isn't a lynch mob in front of Cotto's house right now. Because no other fighter in history has asked for a catchweight... and no other fighter in history has agreed to a catchweight. Deplorable! Cotto didn't weight 160 for the fight? Unacceptable! He should've been force fed a double helping of lasagna and half a dozen chocolate milkshakes before the fight, to pump him up to 160. THEN we would've had a fair fight. Personally, I would ask for a Congressional inquiry into this whole stinking mess, in which I'm sure all Cotto's fellow professional boxers would turn state's witnesses in order to bring this cheater to justice.... and boxing can proceed with the order and normality that it currently does now.

[fan johnny]

was busy and missed the fight, had to catch up took a quick look at youtube and came up with this; cotto looked damn good very good movement,

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Migue...art_1/10103770

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Migue...art_2/10103771

[Memphis]

Geale is a middleweight, he was apparently fighting for the middleweight title. Dragging him below the middleweight limit where he's bone dry is both reckless, dangerous and a black eye on boxing and any attempts it has made to improve fighter safety over the years.


I've had nothing but respect for Cotto throughout his career but on this occasion I view him as nothing more than a cheat and no better than a guy who comes to the ring jacked up to his eyeballs.


A disgraceful and dangerous act of cowardice. That goes for anyone who thought this was an OK thing to do.

[Fenster]

Ironic thing is, in all likelihood, he didn't need those 3 pounds. He would have outclassed Geale regardless, all he did was tarnish his win

[Kirkland Laing]

So now Geale is garbage eh. You really cant make this shit up. The guy comes in as half a man to fight for a title he was not allowed to make weight for, looks like death warmed over at the weigh in and appears weakened from the opening bell. Why the need for a catch with this garbage? Why any celebration at all over this win? Its tainted tuna. The Hbo kissing ass after the fight was almost as bad as the script given to Geale. The real middleweight champion was barely mentioned and instead they concentrate on yet another non middleweight fight. So speaking of garbage, what kind of trash is he going to try and pass on to Alvarez? I mean Cotto was under 154. Whats he doing at 160 when he has no inclination of defending 160? Why does the establishment allow this open cheating?

Garbage indeed.

To be fair it's the second time in big fights he's just quit. He looked at his corner like he wanted to quit after the first knockdown, looked exaclty the same way after the second KD and then did quit. He couldn't wait to get out of there. It did look like he was just there to pick up a paycheque.

[Master]

Cotto has used the middleweight strap as a bargaining position to secure a good payday against Canelo. Remember Canelo was arguing for a larger slice of the pie but Cotto holding a belt stops that card being used by Alvarez.

GGG has carried on earning and beating true middleweights so his career has not stalled. Cotto is making the most amount of money he can before he leaves the game. In this aspect he has not done anything out of the ordinary to maximise his income.

[ruthless rocco]

Cotto has used the middleweight strap as a bargaining position to secure a good payday against Canelo. Remember Canelo was arguing for a larger slice of the pie but Cotto holding a belt stops that card being used by Alvarez.

GGG has carried on earning and beating true middleweights so his career has not stalled. Cotto is making the most amount of money he can before he leaves the game. In this aspect he has not done anything out of the ordinary to maximise his income.

What he has done that's out of the ordinary is act like a pussy by hiding behind a belt that he had no intention of defending. Other people may have done this in the past but one of the reasons Cotto has garnered such deep respect was because he didn't play these kinds of games. It's a shame he felt he needed to twist the rules and lose the respect of fans.

[Gandalf]

I agree with the negativity. Cotto has gone way down in my estimation with his calculation above WW. He deserves no creditvfor draining a MW when he isnt even going to pretend to fight at the weight. First picking on a cripple, then draining a MW to a corpse and completely avoiding the main man to fight Canelo tin can man can Alvarez. Lame ending to a career IMO. Cashing out like a pimp.

[Kirkland Laing]

Cotto has used the middleweight strap as a bargaining position to secure a good payday against Canelo. Remember Canelo was arguing for a larger slice of the pie but Cotto holding a belt stops that card being used by Alvarez.

GGG has carried on earning and beating true middleweights so his career has not stalled. Cotto is making the most amount of money he can before he leaves the game. In this aspect he has not done anything out of the ordinary to maximise his income.

Far more Mexican/Mexican-American boxing fans in America than Puerto Ricans. Alvarez brings more money to this fight than Cotto does and the Mexico-Puerto Rico thing makes it a massive fight anyway regardless of whether there's a belt on offer. And considering that the beltholder after this fight either has to fight or publicly duck Golovkin you can make a good case that neither of these guys want to have anything to do with the belt when they do fight.

[Master]

Cotto has used the middleweight strap as a bargaining position to secure a good payday against Canelo. Remember Canelo was arguing for a larger slice of the pie but Cotto holding a belt stops that card being used by Alvarez.

GGG has carried on earning and beating true middleweights so his career has not stalled. Cotto is making the most amount of money he can before he leaves the game. In this aspect he has not done anything out of the ordinary to maximise his income.

Far more Mexican/Mexican-American boxing fans in America than Puerto Ricans. Alvarez brings more money to this fight than Cotto does and the Mexico-Puerto Rico thing makes it a massive fight anyway regardless of whether there's a belt on offer. And considering that the beltholder after this fight either has to fight or publicly duck Golovkin you can make a good case that neither of these guys want to have anything to do with the belt when they do fight.

Other than have the kudos that they hold the current middleweight title and all the money that brings with it. Conceivably the money this fight could generate could mean a return and trilogy if they are as good as they appear.