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    Default Size Matters 95% of the Time in Boxing

    Rocky Marciano could NEVER beat Wlad.

    David Tua could NEVER beat Lennox.

    Joe Frazier could NEVER beat ForemaN.

    ETC.....


    ALL BECAUSE OF SIZE.

    FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Rocky Marciano could NEVER beat Wlad.

    David Tua could NEVER beat Lennox.

    Joe Frazier could NEVER beat ForemaN.

    ETC.....


    ALL BECAUSE OF SIZE.

    FACT.
    Hard to argue with that if the skills are close. A good big man beats a good small man 95% of the time. It's 5% that keeps us on the edges of our seats and coming back.

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    Default Re: Size Matters 95% of the Time in Boxing

    Size does not matter if the skill, experience and heart of the smaller fighter is better and stronger.

    Frazier v Foreman was more about style of boxing than size.

    Tyson smashes Wlad, Bowe or beats Vitali with certainty.
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    Default Re: Size Matters 95% of the Time in Boxing

    Great skill can overcome size. SRR overcame Lamotta. Floyd overcomes size is pretty much every fight.
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    Default Re: Size Matters 95% of the Time in Boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Great skill can overcome size. SRR overcame Lamotta. Floyd overcomes size is pretty much every fight.
    Lamotta was limited to SRR.
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    Default Re: Size Matters 95% of the Time in Boxing

    Of course it does. That's why we have weight classes.

    Heavyweights are the oddity because there is no upper limit. Honestly there is reasonable logic that the 230+ mob should be in a class of their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Rocky Marciano could NEVER beat Wlad.

    David Tua could NEVER beat Lennox.

    Joe Frazier could NEVER beat ForemaN.

    ETC.....


    ALL BECAUSE OF SIZE.

    FACT.
    I agree with most of this Brock but then when I add a prime mike tyson to the list the theory falls apart.

    No one would walk through oliver Mccall or vitali but Tyson has the potential to do anything.

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    Default Re: Size Matters 95% of the Time in Boxing

    size matter but there are some rare moments in this sport

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Great skill can overcome size. SRR overcame Lamotta. Floyd overcomes size is pretty much every fight.
    Floyd, Floyd, Floyd!! Does it always have to be about Floyd?? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Rocky Marciano could NEVER beat Wlad.

    David Tua could NEVER beat Lennox.

    Joe Frazier could NEVER beat ForemaN.

    ETC.....


    ALL BECAUSE OF SIZE.

    FACT.
    I agree with most of this Brock but then when I add a prime mike tyson to the list the theory falls apart.

    No one would walk through oliver Mccall or vitali but Tyson has the potential to do anything.
    ferocious animal Mike Tyson could beat anybody in his very rare case he is one of the five percent who will break the pattern that I mentioned above. 95 percent of smaller files will not beat larger

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    Default Re: Size Matters 95% of the Time in Boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Great skill can overcome size. SRR overcame Lamotta. Floyd overcomes size is pretty much every fight.
    Floyd, Floyd, Floyd!! Does it always have to be about Floyd?? LOL
    Can't help it, he is the best example for this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Of course it does. That's why we have weight classes.

    Heavyweights are the oddity because there is no upper limit. Honestly there is reasonable logic that the 230+ mob should be in a class of their own.
    This. Since boxing is divided into weight classes, fighters are facing opponents of roughly similar size. Size matters a lot more in other sports. Basketball and height, for example.

    Outside of the HW division, I'm not sure how meaningful the "size matters" argument is. Maybe it explains an outlier like Hearns at welter, specifically his 1-punch KO ability, but even then he lost to the smaller SRL.

    But going back to the HW division, I not sure how determinate a factor size is. That's because extremely large boxers tend to lack coordination. That's why Primo Carnera couldn't just walk over Joe Louis. Mike Tyson routinely KOed much larger men, as his power was generated by a speed and movement that larger men usually don't have and can't react fast enough to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Great skill can overcome size. SRR overcame Lamotta. Floyd overcomes size is pretty much every fight.
    Floyd, Floyd, Floyd!! Does it always have to be about Floyd?? LOL
    Can't help it, he is the best example for this thread.
    I was going to mention manny but after 6 losses and being stretched by little old marquez its not worth it.

    (Sorry, I loved saying that post floyd)

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    Default Re: Size Matters 95% of the Time in Boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Great skill can overcome size. SRR overcame Lamotta. Floyd overcomes size is pretty much every fight.
    Who has Floyd been much smaller then. Only one I can think of is Alvarez. Hes bigger then Pac and Not much between him and Maidana, Guerrero, Cotto, Ortiz, Mosely, Marquez, Hatton etc. I dont get this myth that Floyds been stepping out of his comfrot zone to face giants. If that was the case why the heck would Floyd Pac have been at 147?

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    Default Re: Size Matters 95% of the Time in Boxing

    Quote Originally Posted by Manju View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Of course it does. That's why we have weight classes.

    Heavyweights are the oddity because there is no upper limit. Honestly there is reasonable logic that the 230+ mob should be in a class of their own.
    This. Since boxing is divided into weight classes, fighters are facing opponents of roughly similar size. Size matters a lot more in other sports. Basketball and height, for example.

    Outside of the HW division, I'm not sure how meaningful the "size matters" argument is. Maybe it explains an outlier like Hearns at welter, specifically his 1-punch KO ability, but even then he lost to the smaller SRL.

    But going back to the HW division, I not sure how determinate a factor size is. That's because extremely large boxers tend to lack coordination. That's why Primo Carnera couldn't just walk over Joe Louis. Mike Tyson routinely KOed much larger men, as his power was generated by a speed and movement that larger men usually don't have and can't react fast enough to.
    Mike Tyson is a unique physical specimen. A one in 100,000. You look at him as an old man facing Kevin McBride and you see what most other heavyweights his size would have to cope with when facing guys over 230lbs.
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