Dream Card

[mikeeod]

If you could make a fight card with any five fights with any fighter in history able to participate, which fights/fighters would you choose, and why? My card would look like this:

1. Prime Hagler vs a Prime Hop: My top two middleweight champs (my opinion why and for a different thread) fighting for the #1 spot. Both durable, skilled, and versatile fighters who wrapped themselves and their self worth in their titles.
2. Riddick Bowe vs Lennox Lewis: biggest fight of my lifetime that DIDN'T happen. Lennox eventually became the undisputed man of the division, but was not at that level when this fight would've happened. Huge missed opportunity for the sport.
3. Mike McAllum vs Tommy Hearns: Another great fight that should've happened and a suoerfight that McAllum deserved. Mikes chin, versatility/well rounded skills, and body attack vs Tommys superior speed and power but shaky chin and vulnerable rib cage.
4. James Toney vs Nigel Benn: at 168 this fight would've been an instant classic with Benns agression, huge punch, and underrated skills against Toneys granite chin, superb defense, and pin point counters.
5. Roberto Duran vs Julio Ceasar Chavez: two offensive juggernauts wanting to prove their machismo by dominating the ring. Both had subtle skills not appreciated or understood by casual fans and both were ram tough and seek and destroy fighters.

Honorable mention: Quartey vs Tito, Sweet pea vs Floyd, Ray Leonard vs Aaron Pryor, Oscar vs Kostya

[Ron Swanson]

How can we just leave the best middleweight talk for another thread? Roy Jones was better than Hop and proved it by beating him by a wide margin in the ring.

This idea that staying at a weightclass longer means you are better in that weightclass is such faulty logic. You are better by being better

[mikeeod]

How can we just leave the best middleweight talk for another thread? Roy Jones was better than Hop and proved it by beating him by a wide margin in the ring.

This idea that staying at a weightclass longer means you are better in that weightclass is such faulty logic. You are better by being better

So what you're saying is that Roy beat Hop head to head at middleweight, so he is obviously the better middleweight, but lost to Hop at lightheavy so is obviously not the better fighter at 175, correct?

[La Cucaracha]

How can we just leave the best middleweight talk for another thread? Roy Jones was better than Hop and proved it by beating him by a wide margin in the ring.

This idea that staying at a weightclass longer means you are better in that weightclass is such faulty logic. You are better by being better

So what you're saying is that Roy beat Hop head to head at middleweight, so he is obviously the better middleweight, but lost to Hop at lightheavy so is obviously not the better fighter at 175, correct?

Lets not even mention Tarver

[Spicoli]

Kovalev vs Saad and a side of nachos

[Master]

Tyson v Wlad to see a wipe out.
Floyd v Duran at lightweight to see Roberto punch preety boy in the balls.
Herol Graham v benn to finally see him beat one of the fighters that avoided him.
McCallum v Eubank to rip that body and stop Chris.
Holyfield v Haye at cruiserweight to see that smirl being wiped away.

[Bill Paxtom]

Jack Dempsey vs. Rocky Marciano ............. All-World Heavyweight Championship

Jack Johnson vs. Cassius Clay ..................... American-Negro Heavyweight Championship

Archie Moore vs. Bob Foster ....................... World Light-Heavyweight Championship

Harry Greb vs. Carlos Monzon .................... World Middleweight Championship

Thomas Hearns vs. Tony Ayala ................. {Just to see the look on Lou Duva's face when 'El Torito' gets KTFO in the 1st Round}

Ray Robinson vs. Ray Leonard .................. World Welterweight Championship

Henry Armstrong vs. Aaron Pryor .............. World Light-Welterweight Championship

Benny Leonard vs. Roberto Duran ............. World Lightweight Championship

George Foreman vs. Teofilo Stevenson ..... 'Special 3-Round Blast-Fest'

[Bill Paxtom]

Jack Dempsey vs. Rocky Marciano ............. All-World Heavyweight Championship

Jack Johnson vs. Cassius Clay ..................... American-Negro Heavyweight Championship

Archie Moore vs. Bob Foster ....................... World Light-Heavyweight Championship

Harry Greb vs. Carlos Monzon .................... World Middleweight Championship

Thomas Hearns vs. Tony Ayala ................. {Just to see the look on Lou Duva's face when 'El Torito' gets KTFO in the 1st Round}

Ray Robinson vs. Ray Leonard .................. World Welterweight Championship

Henry Armstrong vs. Aaron Pryor .............. World Light-Welterweight Championship

Benny Leonard vs. Roberto Duran ............. World Lightweight Championship

George Foreman vs. Teofilo Stevenson ..... 'Special 3-Round Blast-Fest'

Now, that's a Card.

[X]

Jack Dempsey v Harry Wills; to see what would have happened had the colour bar been lifted.

Roberto Duran v Manny Pacquiaio at lightweight. What a war.

Sonny Liston v Rocky Marciano. I wonder?

A Hearns v Leonard rematch the year after their first fight. Ray avoided this for a long time

Hagler v Monzon. 'Nuff said.

[Master]

Jack Dempsey vs. Rocky Marciano ............. All-World Heavyweight Championship

Jack Johnson vs. Cassius Clay ..................... American-Negro Heavyweight Championship

Archie Moore vs. Bob Foster ....................... World Light-Heavyweight Championship

Harry Greb vs. Carlos Monzon .................... World Middleweight Championship

Thomas Hearns vs. Tony Ayala ................. {Just to see the look on Lou Duva's face when 'El Torito' gets KTFO in the 1st Round}

Ray Robinson vs. Ray Leonard .................. World Welterweight Championship

Henry Armstrong vs. Aaron Pryor .............. World Light-Welterweight Championship

Benny Leonard vs. Roberto Duran ............. World Lightweight Championship

George Foreman vs. Teofilo Stevenson ..... 'Special 3-Round Blast-Fest'

Now, that's a Card.

Did you just complement your own post? Numpty.

[Bill Paxtom]

Jack Dempsey vs. Rocky Marciano ............. All-World Heavyweight Championship

Jack Johnson vs. Cassius Clay ..................... American-Negro Heavyweight Championship

Archie Moore vs. Bob Foster ....................... World Light-Heavyweight Championship

Harry Greb vs. Carlos Monzon .................... World Middleweight Championship

Thomas Hearns vs. Tony Ayala ................. {Just to see the look on Lou Duva's face when 'El Torito' gets KTFO in the 1st Round}

Ray Robinson vs. Ray Leonard .................. World Welterweight Championship

Henry Armstrong vs. Aaron Pryor .............. World Light-Welterweight Championship

Benny Leonard vs. Roberto Duran ............. World Lightweight Championship

George Foreman vs. Teofilo Stevenson ..... 'Special 3-Round Blast-Fest'

Now, that's a Card.

Did you just complement your own post? Numpty.

Well of course I did. Don't you pleasure yourself from time to time.

[SlimTrae]

Jack Dempsey vs. Rocky Marciano ............. All-World Heavyweight Championship

Jack Johnson vs. Cassius Clay ..................... American-Negro Heavyweight Championship

Archie Moore vs. Bob Foster ....................... World Light-Heavyweight Championship

Harry Greb vs. Carlos Monzon .................... World Middleweight Championship

Thomas Hearns vs. Tony Ayala ................. {Just to see the look on Lou Duva's face when 'El Torito' gets KTFO in the 1st Round}

Ray Robinson vs. Ray Leonard .................. World Welterweight Championship

Henry Armstrong vs. Aaron Pryor .............. World Light-Welterweight Championship

Benny Leonard vs. Roberto Duran ............. World Lightweight Championship

George Foreman vs. Teofilo Stevenson ..... 'Special 3-Round Blast-Fest'

Now, that's a Card.

Helluva card. I'd have to make PPV in installments. What the price, $399.99?

[Master]

Jack Dempsey vs. Rocky Marciano ............. All-World Heavyweight Championship

Jack Johnson vs. Cassius Clay ..................... American-Negro Heavyweight Championship

Archie Moore vs. Bob Foster ....................... World Light-Heavyweight Championship

Harry Greb vs. Carlos Monzon .................... World Middleweight Championship

Thomas Hearns vs. Tony Ayala ................. {Just to see the look on Lou Duva's face when 'El Torito' gets KTFO in the 1st Round}

Ray Robinson vs. Ray Leonard .................. World Welterweight Championship

Henry Armstrong vs. Aaron Pryor .............. World Light-Welterweight Championship

Benny Leonard vs. Roberto Duran ............. World Lightweight Championship

George Foreman vs. Teofilo Stevenson ..... 'Special 3-Round Blast-Fest'

Now, that's a Card.

Helluva card. I'd have to make PPV in installments. What the price, $399.99?

It should be free CBS and Howard Cossell commentating.

[SlimTrae]

Manny Pacquiao vs Aaron Pryor for the LW CHAMPIONSHIP
Salvador Sanchez vs Henry Armstrong for the Featherweight CHAMPIONSHIP
Ray Robinson vs Floyd Mayweather for the WW CHAMPIONSHIP
Alexis Arguello vs Edwin Valero for the SUPERFEATHER CHAMPIONSHIP
Joe Frazier vs Mike Tyson for the HW CHAMPIONSHIP

[SlimTrae]

Jack Dempsey vs. Rocky Marciano ............. All-World Heavyweight Championship

Jack Johnson vs. Cassius Clay ..................... American-Negro Heavyweight Championship

Archie Moore vs. Bob Foster ....................... World Light-Heavyweight Championship

Harry Greb vs. Carlos Monzon .................... World Middleweight Championship

Thomas Hearns vs. Tony Ayala ................. {Just to see the look on Lou Duva's face when 'El Torito' gets KTFO in the 1st Round}

Ray Robinson vs. Ray Leonard .................. World Welterweight Championship

Henry Armstrong vs. Aaron Pryor .............. World Light-Welterweight Championship

Benny Leonard vs. Roberto Duran ............. World Lightweight Championship

George Foreman vs. Teofilo Stevenson ..... 'Special 3-Round Blast-Fest'

Now, that's a Card.

Helluva card. I'd have to make PPV in installments. What the price, $399.99?

It should be free CBS and Howard Cossell commentating.

Since Floyd isn't on the card...you're right- these champs would do it on public television.