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    Default What happened?

    What happened to GGG last night? Did he get exposed, or is age starting to catch up to him? Maybe a bit of both?

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    Jacob fought his very best with movement and power which kept GGG respectfully away.

    Jacob was able to take the punches better probably because of the weight advantage.

    That was GGG toughest bout.
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    Default Re: What happened?

    golovkin won a close fight against his best opponent to date, nothing weird here in my opinion.

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    Default Re: What happened?

    Jacobs blew it by not sticking to his game plan.

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    A very solid and competitive fight. GGG legitimately won a very close decision against a top notch and bigger opponent. It's not weird, it's just that we've been used to GGG slaughtering his opponents for a long time now and we came to take it for granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    A very solid and competitive fight. GGG legitimately won a very close decision against a top notch and bigger opponent. It's not weird, it's just that we've been used to GGG slaughtering his opponents for a long time now and we came to take it for granted.
    Bingo.Jacobs was a highly motivated and focused challenger as well.

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    Default Re: What happened?

    I saw no signs that GGG was old in the ring, if he was 22 people would have said he lacked the experience. is all about perceptions.
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    There's not a great fighter in history that hasn't had an unexpectedly hard fight (even dropped a loss) in their pomp. It's a testament to Golovkin that he's on a pedestal where he's expected to blow away all his competition. Now obviously the ultra pedantic "fan" will say "all the current middlweights are shit," so lets just step back a generation or two.

    Would Golovkin or Jacobs really be considered an easy fight for the top middleweights from recent generations? Hopkins, Taylor, Pavlik, Sergio or Tito, Winky, Joppy, Eastman, Simon, Abraham, Sturm etc.

    Hopkins is the bonafide all-time great middleweight from those names, right? Mainly due to longevity not actual particular wins.

    So where would Jacobs rank amongst first ballot hall of famer BHop's best middleweight wins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    There's not a great fighter in history that hasn't had an unexpectedly hard fight (even dropped a loss) in their pomp. It's a testament to Golovkin that he's on a pedestal where he's expected to blow away all his competition. Now obviously the ultra pedantic "fan" will say "all the current middlweights are shit," so lets just step back a generation or two.

    Would Golovkin or Jacobs really be considered an easy fight for the top middleweights from recent generations? Hopkins, Taylor, Pavlik, Sergio or Tito, Winky, Joppy, Eastman, Simon, Abraham, Sturm etc.

    Hopkins is the bonafide all-time great middleweight from those names, right? Mainly due to longevity not actual particular wins.

    So where would Jacobs rank amongst first ballot hall of famer BHop's best middleweight wins?
    I would place Jacobs on par with Hop's win over Joppy. I think Hop faced and beat better competition overall, and I don't think GGG has faced any kind of monster like Tito was at that time. Of that list I give Pavilik, Taylor, Winky, And Martinez great odds to beat GGG. I think Hop destroys him and lols phenomenal in the process.

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    I think GGG beats Pavilik, Taylor, Winky, and Martinez and I do not think Hop destroys Golovkin.

    B Hop has the skills to beat GGG but do not think he would stop him.
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    @mikeeod - Where do you rank Joppy among Hops best middleweight wins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    @mikeeod - Where do you rank Joppy among Hops best middleweight wins?

    Tito
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    Tito
    Echols 2
    Lipsey
    Eastman
    Joppy
    Holmes
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    @mikeeod - Where do you rank Joppy among Hops best middleweight wins?

    Tito
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    Lipsey
    Eastman
    Joppy
    Holmes
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    Nice list. Glen Johnson should be on the list, he was undefeated before he fought B Hop.
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    So it would be fair to say Jacobs - let alone GGG - would be regarded as one of Hopkins best wins at middleweight. And that would certainly go for every other middleweight I named - that's if they won of course.

    Golovkin didn't blow Jacobs away which means either - he's overrated or he had a bad night. When in reality Jacobs is better than everyone gave him credit for and wouldn't look out of place with past generations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    @mikeeod - Where do you rank Joppy among Hops best middleweight wins?

    Tito
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    Echols 2
    Lipsey
    Eastman
    Joppy
    Holmes
    Oscar
    Nice list. Glen Johnson should be on the list, he was undefeated before he fought B Hop.
    Good catch. Not sure how I could leave The Road Warrior off that list. I would place him above Echols on that list. Glen learned a lot in that fight and was a much better fighter when he beat Roy and Tarver, later in his career. For that reason, I don't place Hop's stoppage of Johnson over his performance vs Tito.

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