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    We've talked about countries with great boxing tradition.... champions per capita... etc, etc, etc. The same countries always come up, where boxing has a rich history and there's been many champions. The U.S., England, Mexico, Puerto Rico, to name a few. But how about large countries which just in terms of size should have more boxing champions, but do not. Not thinking the Samoas of the world, but large countries which excel in other sports. I'm thinking Brazil, Spain, Greece. What other countries are there with a poor boxing tradition and/or history, and why would that be? I mean... boxing is not a mainstream sport. But it is one of the world's oldest, and steeped in tradition. Why are countries like these so devoid of champions?

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    Default Re: Countries with poor boxing tradition

    India

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    China

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    always thought italy and france underperform a lot, they can be good at sports and are relatively rich countries which past and (maybe)present champions(iforget), I guess boxing has just never took off in those two countries like it sort of did in germany. Although I will be interested to see how tony yoka does in the pro ranks:S...

    Brazil is a good one too, they have had freitas as a champion at a very high level and they seem to have quite a lot of boxers active in many weight classes but theyjust never seem to get far these days.. Argys at heavyweight is another one, although I would put that down to the aggresive tough man style argies fight with and they just cant get away with it v the biggest guys.

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    Default Re: Countries with poor boxing tradition

    All good examples. India, China, Italy, France.
    Italy and France are heavily into football. But so are other countries that still manage to have a decent boxing tradition/ history.
    India I don't know is good at any sport. It doesn't seem to be an important part of their culture.
    China's a mystery. The most populated country on Earth... and their boxing history is pretty bland.

    Also, look at Brazil and Argentina. South American neighbors... both big countries.
    Football is huge in those countries. And yet Argentina has many times the boxing history/ tradition Brazil has.
    I wonder why.

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    Wasn't boxing banned in China until recently? India is pretty good at cricket and hockey (played on grass). They always have boxers in the Olympics but have never really had a superstar in the sport so it may not seem a viable lively hood for many.

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    Oh man how many angles can you come at this . Good topic! Off the top maybe a Hungary who literally force retired a potential 'great' in Papp? Maybe places like Iceland and Norway similarly. Hey..throw in Thailand where it seems similar or Argentina in fighters who can come out and be a pleasant tough surprise but any Country that lets a guy fight under 101 gym aliases and pure number of 40-0 guys fighting 'debut' types gets the nod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Oh man how many angles can you come at this . Good topic! Off the top maybe a Hungary who literally force retired a potential 'great' in Papp? Maybe places like Iceland and Norway similarly. Hey..throw in Thailand where it seems similar or Argentina in fighters who can come out and be a pleasant tough surprise but any Country that lets a guy fight under 101 gym aliases and pure number of 40-0 guys fighting 'debut' types gets the nod.


    Ahh... there you go. Forgot about the Nordic countries. Not just Norway, but Sweden, Finland.
    The region in general has pretty negligible boxing history.
    That in itself is a mystery as well.

    Oh, please don't get me started on 40-0 guys fighting 'debut' types.
    That's another road altogether and another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Oh man how many angles can you come at this . Good topic! Off the top maybe a Hungary who literally force retired a potential 'great' in Papp? Maybe places like Iceland and Norway similarly. Hey..throw in Thailand where it seems similar or Argentina in fighters who can come out and be a pleasant tough surprise but any Country that lets a guy fight under 101 gym aliases and pure number of 40-0 guys fighting 'debut' types gets the nod.


    Ahh... there you go. Forgot about the Nordic countries. Not just Norway, but Sweden, Finland.
    The region in general has pretty negligible boxing history.
    That in itself is a mystery as well.

    Oh, please don't get me started on 40-0 guys fighting 'debut' types.
    That's another road altogether and another thread.
    Sweden banned boxing for a number of years so need to catch up.

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    The Mid East features great weight lifters and wrestlers, but boxers not so much. Turkey is an exception to same extent. I have never heard of a Libyan boxer.

    Nigeria, South Africa, and Ghana have a great legacy but some of the other African countries don't seem to have one. Maybe Uganda as Idi Amin boxed when he wasn't killing.

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    All great finds.

    But why are some large, resourceful countries totally devoid of any boxing tradition and/or history?

    The Nordic countries... Brazil... France... to name a few.

    India's large and populated, but poor. Like @Alpha said, it may not seem like a viable livelihood for many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    All great finds.

    But why are some large, resourceful countries totally devoid of any boxing tradition and/or history?

    The Nordic countries... Brazil... France... to name a few.

    India's large and populated, but poor. Like @Alpha said, it may not seem like a viable livelihood for many.

    Not Brazil. It has a fie tradition beginning with Eder Jofe and Popo ad many others. Plus the women have the moss succulent asses in the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    All great finds.

    But why are some large, resourceful countries totally devoid of any boxing tradition and/or history?

    The Nordic countries... Brazil... France... to name a few.

    India's large and populated, but poor. Like @Alpha said, it may not seem like a viable livelihood for many.

    Not Brazil. It has a fie tradition beginning with Eder Jofe and Popo ad many others. Plus the women have the moss succulent asses in the universe.


    Given Brazil's size, I'm sure their per capita number of boxing champions is abysmal.
    Again... when compared to Argentina they pale in comparison.
    However, the per capita succulent asses ration is admittedly (and deliciously) out of this world.

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