Lennox Lewis v Antony Joshua

[Master]

Who wins this peak for peak?

You could argue that AJ has not hit his peak yet but he is not that far from it. Lennox fought in an era with stronger competition and earned his title shot.

Both have susceptible chins but Lennox only lost when he took his opponent lightly. Against AJ Lennox would be on his A game and when in that form he would win.

What do you think?

[imp]

Lennox.

[X]

Lewis has had his entire career, so we are in a position to judge him as a fighter, whereas Joshua has only had a handful of fights so far against extremely mediocre opposition (Wlad notwithstanding, as he was well past his sell by date)

I don't think Joshua has peaked yet, but my instinct is that Lennox would be too athletic, too skilled and too seasoned for AJ ......

Lets see what transpires in the AJ story yet. He hasn't been hurt by boxing yet as a pro. Much too soon after so few short fights against the likes of Charles Williams!

[Master]

AJ has been visibly been hurt by Whyte and Wlad.

[Primo Carnera]

AJ has been visibly been hurt by Whyte and Wlad.

yep, and Lennox "was visibly hurt" by Rahman and McCall! so fucking what? and I don't buy this "wasn't focused" bollocks. Having said all that, if you had to say at this moment in time, you have to give it to Lewis. AJ isn't the most Skilled, Cultured or experienced Fighter YET. he wouldn't get past Lewis's Jab.

[imp]

Every fighter gets hurt at some point in their career...it's how they deal with it.

[Master]

AJ has been visibly been hurt by Whyte and Wlad.

yep, and Lennox "was visibly hurt" by Rahman and McCall! so fucking what? and I don't buy this "wasn't focused" bollocks. Having said all that, if you had to say at this moment in time, you have to give it to Lewis. AJ isn't the most Skilled, Cultured or experienced Fighter YET. he wouldn't get past Lewis's Jab.

Point being that he would not take AJ lightly and treat him as if he was fighting dangerous punchers like Grant, Golota, Ruddock, Tua and Tyson.

[J_Undisputed]

AJ has been visibly been hurt by Whyte and Wlad.

yep, and Lennox "was visibly hurt" by Rahman and McCall! so fucking what? and I don't buy this "wasn't focused" bollocks. Having said all that, if you had to say at this moment in time, you have to give it to Lewis. AJ isn't the most Skilled, Cultured or experienced Fighter YET. he wouldn't get past Lewis's Jab.

Point being that he would not take AJ lightly and treat him as if he was fighting dangerous punchers like Grant, Golota, Ruddock, Tua and Tyson.

Lennox in 5-6. Lewis took out grant and golota early, because lewis knew when you had someone who wasn't ready. There are the guys you give a little slack to and drag into deep water and fatigue and attrition takes their heart.(tyson, tua, briggs because they used to finishing early...) and there are the guys you spook and take the heart from first and everything collapses after that.

I don't think Joshua has peaked yet, but right now he falls in between categories. Joshua has a fighters mentality in that he gets up and tries harder if hes been put on his @$$. He's trying to refine his game and fix mistakes, but he's not approaching the in ring contest from a mental stand point. Hes a combo machine, looking for countering opportunities and projecting invincibility. He's not setting traps, or walking opponents into punches or using his weight to lean on opponents and wear them down physically. Lewis knew when a guy was ripe for the quick start bum rush. I think Lennox is off to uncharacteristically fast start in this one like he did with golota, grant and botha... and establishes a jab and counters the counter to confuse Joshua and walk him into punches. Joshua tries harder to force it and burns himself out wailing away on Lewis in the guard and Lewis stitches this up shortly after. Lewis wouldn't fear Joshua's power (same for wilder) because the punches are easy to see coming... the wind ups are bigger and the delivery is deliberate and unmasked.