Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia

[Gandalf]

Pac is in the ring, stand by.

No Pac please no!! I dont want my idol getting blasted away again.

Never rule out the Pac. He is faster than Spence and hits harder. Spence has faced nothing like Manny.

[powerpuncher]

Pac is in the ring, stand by.

No Pac please no!! I dont want my idol getting blasted away again.

Never rule out the Pac. He is faster than Spence and hits harder. Spence has faced nothing like Manny.

Mikey is easily better than Pacquiao of today

[Kirkland Laing]

Even allowing for the size of the task Garcia was a massive disappointment. He looked like a big fat pudding plodding forward and getting battered all night. You really wonder how an incredibly knowledgeable boxing man like Robert Garcia thought this would be a good idea. He should not have let Mikey do this.

Funny.

Funny how?

[Spicoli]

Here’s my problem with this fight. Mikey was one of the best boxers in the world. He still had some good years left to his career. This kind of fight where you take so much punishment effects the rest of your career. Also, once you bulk up, you can’t successfully go back down in weight. I honestly think this is the end of the Mikey Garcia we once knew and it’s unfortunate.

I really hope I’m wrong though and that he can still have a successful career.

Said same and seems obvious and not his first time bouncing weights, that takes a toll as do punches. Lot's of people came around on Mikey in build up and that's respect and appreciation, but Spence was in a tough spot to look all or nothing himself. Mikey should take some time settle at 140 and I don't doubt that he can but this was a bridge too far once it was announced.

[TitoFan]

Both Errol and Mikey are very likable guys. Good point made about what this could take out of Mikey going forward. It was too big of a reach, and I'm surprised so many here were starting to favor Mikey as we got close to fight night.

Spence was faster, stronger, and outboxed Mikey by a mile. Glad all judges scored a shutout, cause that's exactly what it was... a shutout.

I think Spence-Pac would be more competitive. Pac is a southpaw like Spence... he's still a lot faster than Mikey... and Pac had success at welter. Yes... he's a freak of nature.

[Fenster]

Here’s my problem with this fight. Mikey was one of the best boxers in the world. He still had some good years left to his career. This kind of fight where you take so much punishment effects the rest of your career. Also, once you bulk up, you can’t successfully go back down in weight. I honestly think this is the end of the Mikey Garcia we once knew and it’s unfortunate.

I really hope I’m wrong though and that he can still have a successful career.

He's had a million fights already, this was his first "big" payday. And in surviving he can land another payday, going the distance with Spence will become a selling point for him now

[Fenster]

Even allowing for the size of the task Garcia was a massive disappointment. He looked like a big fat pudding plodding forward and getting battered all night. You really wonder how an incredibly knowledgeable boxing man like Robert Garcia thought this would be a good idea. He should not have let Mikey do this.

Funny.

Funny how?

Just... ya know... you're a funny guy and all. ()

(Robert Garcia being knowledgeable? He took the payday like he always does)

[Kirkland Laing]

Even allowing for the size of the task Garcia was a massive disappointment. He looked like a big fat pudding plodding forward and getting battered all night. You really wonder how an incredibly knowledgeable boxing man like Robert Garcia thought this would be a good idea. He should not have let Mikey do this.

Funny.

Funny how?

Just... ya know... you're a funny guy and all. ()

(Robert Garcia being knowledgeable? He took the payday like he always does)

It's his brother man. I know he likes his money but come on, if there's going to be once in his life he's going to be brutally honest it should have been for this fight.

[TitoFan]

Looking back through the thread, it was interesting to see the shift in people's opinion before the fight. Around page 5 of the thread is where people started saying hey you know what? Mikey might just beat Spence.

Turns out the initial reaction when the fight was announced was the correct one. Spence was just too much for Mikey.

I hope Mikey follows through on what he said after the fight and goes back down. He's got no business at welter.

[Gandalf]

Pac is in the ring, stand by.

No Pac please no!! I dont want my idol getting blasted away again.

Never rule out the Pac. He is faster than Spence and hits harder. Spence has faced nothing like Manny.

Mikey is easily better than Pacquiao of today

I disagree. Pac could not fight at LW now, but has held his own at WW for years. If they were to fight next Pac would put him down 3 times and win 10 rounds. Few can deal with the speed. Pac is old but still puts down most of his opponents and with experience knows when to turn it up and when to take a breather. He's still awesome. Garcia is totally unproven at WW really and it showed badly.

I think Spence is a much harder fight, but Spence is relatively untested for a buzzsaw like Manny too and he will eat horrible shots from unholy angles. Manny will have him wobbly. It's a classic old tiger against a young lion. It's a great fight and I learned long ago never to sleep on Manny Pac.

All it takes from Manny is an explosion and suddenly you have a 10-8 round, an opponent doubting himself and you think 'Christ, he is meant to be 40!'

[powerpuncher]

Pac is in the ring, stand by.

No Pac please no!! I dont want my idol getting blasted away again.

Never rule out the Pac. He is faster than Spence and hits harder. Spence has faced nothing like Manny.

Mikey is easily better than Pacquiao of today

I disagree. Pac could not fight at LW now, but has held his own at WW for years. If they were to fight next Pac would put him down 3 times and win 10 rounds. Few can deal with the speed. Pac is old but still puts down most of his opponents and with experience knows when to turn it up and when to take a breather. He's still awesome. Garcia is totally unproven at WW really and it showed badly.

I think Spence is a much harder fight, but Spence is relatively untested for a buzzsaw like Manny too and he will eat horrible shots from unholy angles. Manny will have him wobbly. It's a classic old tiger against a young lion. It's a great fight and I learned long ago never to sleep on Manny Pac.

All it takes from Manny is an explosion and suddenly you have a 10-8 round, an opponent doubting himself and you think 'Christ, he is meant to be 40!'

Pacquiao struggled with Horn and you think he could beat Spence? I highly doubt Pacquiao will even fight Spence because he knows how bad of a beating he will take. Unlike Garcia, Pacquiao does not last the distance.

[Fenster]

Even allowing for the size of the task Garcia was a massive disappointment. He looked like a big fat pudding plodding forward and getting battered all night. You really wonder how an incredibly knowledgeable boxing man like Robert Garcia thought this would be a good idea. He should not have let Mikey do this.

Funny.

Funny how?

Just... ya know... you're a funny guy and all. ()

(Robert Garcia being knowledgeable? He took the payday like he always does)

It's his brother man. I know he likes his money but come on, if there's going to be once in his life he's going to be brutally honest it should have been for this fight.

I was actually pleading with him around the 10th - come on man, it's your brother, do the right thing or you're going to cost me 250 quid. Bastard.

[Dark Lord Al]

Strange performance from Mikey , I expected him to at lest give it a go as he fell behind.

[Beanz]

Spence was masterful. He never allowed Garcia to fight. He had a plan and he executed it with spite. Easy to get high on boxers before truly making that mark, but the guy is a throwback. To fight like that at this point in his career is remarkable. It has nothing to do with Garcia being bad on the night, or it being an off night, he was just outclassed in every department. The little micro movements that Spence makes even when going forward makes him a lot harder to nail flush than people have been claiming, and he mixes it up, not just through the dips and highs of the whole 12 rounds, but within single rounds. He can change his speed at will and will dictate where the action will take place on his terms.

Big waste to fight Manny. He destroys Manny at this stage. Not knocking Mannys willingness to fight him, but is a sad indictment on the other guys who should be challenging Spence that it is even being talked about.

[Master]

Sounds like it was JMM v Floyd again. Just too big, better and a weight too far for Garcia.