So compared to past U.S. heavyweights... Wilder's not very popular in the U.S. Why?

[ykdadamaja]

We've thrown this around a bit, along with a few ideas. So exactly why is it you feel Wilder is not as popular in the States as the Mike Tysons, Evander Holyfields, and Muhammad Alis of the past? Is it Wilder himself? If it is... what about Wilder is it that prevents him from being more known/popular? If it's not Wilder himself, is it something else?

Discuss.

1. Bad, in fact, SHIT BAD marketing. He does not have a good marketing team and does not have good speakers in his camp.

2. His promoters and management are good at getting him sensible contracts for what it is worth, but they are not like Hearn who says controversial stuff to get people motivated.

3. American fans have lost the love for the sport altogether- Thanks to cucks and cunts. They want to have touch American football now, so can you imagine these PC cunts and cucks who wants to ruin life for everyone?

4. He is as dry as paint- The last and only controversial things he said has been that he disssed a legend in Mike Tyson, which got him enemies all over the world as Tyson is still very much loved; and the second thing was that he wants to get a body in the ring, making cunts and cucks and those that know how to pander to the cunts and cucks in the media to say how reprehensible his comments were.

Compare him to Tyson Fury- Fury has magnetism, he can sell a fight PLUS he can fight and win. Fury went into LEGENDARY STATUS with his media appearances leading up to his Wlad fight.

Tyson Fury is a good talker and he engages the audience. Wilder... meh... He does not have that.

[Freedom]

Here in the amateurs, despite being protected by the referee, he gets floored. This is why Wilder has been so cautiously matched, and has avoided all the prime decent heavyweights like Breazeale, Povetkin, Parker, Whyte and Miller:

[El Kabong]

Here in the amateurs, despite being protected by the referee, he gets floored. This is why Wilder has been so cautiously matched, and has avoided all the prime decent heavyweights like Breazeale, Povetkin, Parker, Whyte and Miller:

He fought Bermane Stiverne twice...he could punch pretty damned good. He fought Ortiz who can punch. He fought Arreola who can punch.


I mean I think his competition COULD be loads better absolutely, but I also think his career could have been fucked up by him getting rushed into such challenges rather than taking his time fighting the right guys and gaining experience. I mean that too could have bit him in the ass had he slept on one of those guys which would have been really easy to do.


I think as a boxer he's been managed very well. As a commodity he's been handled poorly and marketed poorly.


Given his experience or lack there of in boxing I think he's achieved a great deal....he was never going to be George Foreman who started boxing then a year later won the gold medal then turned pro went 37-0-0 and clobbered the shit out of the undefeated undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.....but he's 40-0-0 and that isn't too shabby.


We'll see what Wilder is when he is tested vs the current BEST heavyweights, Tyson Fury should at the very least be a big challenge to him, we'll see how he handles it.